Are Plots From One Country To Assassinate Another Country's Leaders An Act Of War?

[Thinker101]

Nope. Iran attacked us 47 years ago, and committed war crimes in the process.

Now your heroes get to go meet their goats in paradise.

That's virgin goats.

 

[Independent thinker]

A declared war guarantees proper care for wounded or captured American soldiers, rules of conduct on the battlefield, etc....

LOL. Wow, and you think Iran would do that? What if they didn't?

 

[Independent thinker]

The Iranians have been committing war crimes from day one.

They don't honor the rules of war you effing clod.

Bingo!

 

[Marener]

No.

So just because someone commits an “act of war”, doesn’t mean they’re at war.

Perhaps we need to redefine “act of war”.

 

[Independent thinker]

So just because someone commits an “act of war”, doesn’t mean they’re at war.

Perhaps we need to redefine “act of war”.

It would be simple for you guys. You could do most whatever you wanted while you were in power but the other side isn't allowed to do the same.

 

[Darkwind]

So just because someone commits an “act of war”, doesn’t mean they’re at war.

Perhaps we need to redefine “act of war”.

Knock yourself out.

In most of history of the past 150 years, there have been many acts of war against the USA. Most of them were not acted on.

So, an act of war, in our case, only happens when the feckless Congress declares it.

Until that time, this is just another of many hot actions taken in the past.

 

[Marener]

It would be simple for you guys. You could do most whatever you wanted while you were in power but the other side isn't allowed to do the same.

It’s your OP and your framing. All I’m doing is taking the logical conclusions from it.

Are we at war?

 

[Marener]

Knock yourself out.

In most of history of the past 150 years, there have been many acts of war against the USA. Most of them were not acted on.

So, an act of war, in our case, only happens when the feckless Congress declares it.

Until that time, this is just another of many hot actions taken in the past.

A state of war only costs when Congress declares it.

According to the OP, that doesn’t stop the president from waging war.

 

[Independent thinker]

It’s your OP and your framing. All I’m doing is taking the logical conclusions from it.

Are we at war?

I'm saying that if another country is at war with us then we are already at war. When you are already at war then you don't need a war resolution from Congress. You didn't even bother to answer the question.

 

[Marener]

I'm saying that if another country is at war with us then we are already at war. When you are already at war then you don't need a war resolution from Congress. You didn't even bother to answer the question.

Yeah, I checked and that’s not what the constitution says.

 

[Independent thinker]

So just because someone commits an “act of war”, doesn’t mean they’re at war.

Perhaps we need to redefine “act of war”.

LOL. I think is is self explanatory that when another country has committed an "act of war" against you then you are at war. That's why they call it an act of war.

Russia committed an act of war against Ukraine. Ukraine could have just let Russia take over territory and done nothing and claimed that even though Russia committed an act of war, they don't really consider themselves to be at war with Russia. Wouldn't that be rather stupid? Whether Ukraine liked it or not, they are at war with Russia. They didn't need to declare being at war with Russia because Russia had already declared war by committing an act of war against Ukraine.

 

[Independent thinker]

Yeah, I checked and that’s not what the constitution says.

So, you're saying that, according to the Constitution, if another country attacks us we can't attack them back unless we declare war against someone who has arleady attacked us? Let me ask you the same question I asked Candycorn:

Let's say for the sake of argument that the whole world is at peace, but we have our usual enemies, one being Russia, but that we aren't "at war" with them. Putin decides to pre-emptively nuke Congress when it is in session while our president was lucky enough to be away from DC. Since Congress has been nuked, wouldn't you want the president to defend us, even though we can't get a vaporized Congress to declare war on Russia? Isn't Russia's act a clear act of war and we don't need to wait for a new Congress to declare war against them?

 

[candycorn]

Forever wars are the new black

 

[22lcidw]

Sure did.

As we did to them numerous times.

If they were to develop nuclear weapons, what would they do? They have promoted terrorism outside their jurisdiction. Affecting other people.

 

[westwall]

Forever wars are the new black

Nah, Trump isn't obummer.

 

[candycorn]

So, you're saying that, according to the Constitution, if another country attacks us we can't attack them back unless we declare war against someone who has arleady attacked us?

If I was saying that, I would have said it. We have a right to defend ourselves.

So what you’re saying is that the constituion no longer applies to the President when it comes to war?

 

[candycorn]

Out of curiosity...when Americans are taken hostage as happens from time to time by Hezbollah, Hamas, ISIS, Al Queda--ordinary Americans; not military...is that an act of war too?

 

[westwall]

Out of curiosity...when Americans are taken hostage as happens from time to time by Hezbollah, Hamas, ISIS, Al Queda--ordinary Americans; not military...is that an act of war too?

Of course. And it is also a war crime.

 

[Hafar1014]

Are Plots From One Country To Assassinate Another Country's Leaders An Act Of War?​

Absolutely and legitimizes retribution in kind.

Iran tried to kill Trump so as you say here it comes

 

[22lcidw]

A declared war guarantees proper care for wounded or captured American soldiers, rules of conduct on the battlefield, etc....

The Japanese were not that good with that.