War With Syria: Yea Or Nay?

[rhodescholar]

If someone says yes they better explain themselves.

I say: "YES!!!"

THere are so many reasons to justify attacking syria, including shwoing the US still has deterrant capability, that we as a nation do not accept people slaughtering cowering women and children trying to hide in their closets, that in a time of need - with people practically begging us to help - we came through, that it is not acceptable to drop chemical weapons on cities, or carpet bomb whole neighborhoods, that anything that hurts syria hurts iran and hezbollah - which is of infinite importance, etc.

For those of you saying we have no dog in this fight, our security interests are not at stake, or pretend that it somehow makes you look intelligent with a foreign policy of isolationism - yes ron paul sycophants, I'm talking down to you - it does not, and you are wrong.

I wanted the fake, empty suit president to hammer syria 2 1/2 years ago, when he first started shooting unarmed protestors, and before the jihadist filth came in, but obama the community activist and orator-in-chief did nothing, as he has for almost 6 years in office.

I'm just glad France did not ignore our calls for help in 1776, or we'd be a commonwealth instead of a nation of our own.

 

[rhodescholar]

This should be taken up in Congress. It should be fully debated. However, it doesn't seem likely that will happen. And that pretty much sums up our Nation these days. The People just don't have much say.

First off, let me open this by saying I ******* hate ron paul, who is a piece of useless shit, and I despise each and every one of his lunatic followers, who have picked up the lyndon larouche mantle and run with it, dragging many people who should know better but are too lazy to think/research for themselves the full story on almost any topic right into the gutter.

That said, I DON'T GIVE A **** what the public or polls say or want, the government, and in particular, the president's job is to LEAD, even if that means doing something that is not popular, which has happened many times in our history.

Politicians who decide actions to take (or not take) based upon polls - especially ones who are not running for office - are useless morons.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

I'm just glad France did not ignore our calls for help in 1776, or we'd be a commonwealth instead of a nation of our own.

Every country develops at a different rate, and we can't force all these Middle Eastern countries into OUR timeline. A good government can take hundreds of years to develop, but when we topple that process over and over again in different countries, we send the process way back and definitely not forward. There has to be some continuity.

 

[rhodescholar]

Every country develops at a different rate, and we can't force all these Middle Eastern countries into OUR timeline. A good government can take hundreds of years to develop, but when we topple that process over and over again in different countries, we send the process way back and definitely not forward.

Syria as it stands would never be a Western style democracy if we bombed the place so that only one person was left alive, I know that.

But I also know that the US is supposed to stand for something, and allowing what that ******* animal assad, putin and iran have done there is unacceptable. They have been begging the US and West for help for 3 years. Yes, Turkey and Saudi arabia should have gotten off their asses, but they are afraid of the terrorist response from iran, whose death cannot come soon enough.

The reality is that a major war is coming to remove iran's illegal nuclear weapons program in the next 6 months to a year, so we might as well take out their ally in syria now. Besides, after assad had allowed jihadists to use his country as a primary forward base from which to attack US troops in iraq, he was as good as dead.

 

[JWBooth]

If someone says yes they better explain themselves.

I say: "YES!!!"

THere are so many reasons to justify attacking syria, including shwoing the US still has deterrant capability, that we as a nation do not accept people slaughtering cowering women and children trying to hide in their closets, that in a time of need - with people practically begging us to help - we came through, that it is not acceptable to drop chemical weapons on cities, or carpet bomb whole neighborhoods, that anything that hurts syria hurts iran and hezbollah - which is of infinite importance, etc.

For those of you saying we have no dog in this fight, our security interests are not at stake, or pretend that it somehow makes you look intelligent with a foreign policy of isolationism - yes ron paul sycophants, I'm talking down to you - it does not, and you are wrong.

I wanted the fake, empty suit president to hammer syria 2 1/2 years ago, when he first started shooting unarmed protestors, and before the jihadist filth came in, but obama the community activist and orator-in-chief did nothing, as he has for almost 6 years in office.

I'm just glad France did not ignore our calls for help in 1776, or we'd be a commonwealth instead of a nation of our own.

Well, suit up sparky, load up, head over, and kick some Assad butt.

keyboard kommandos, always standing ready for somebody else to bleed

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Every country develops at a different rate, and we can't force all these Middle Eastern countries into OUR timeline. A good government can take hundreds of years to develop, but when we topple that process over and over again in different countries, we send the process way back and definitely not forward.

Syria as it stands would never be a Western style democracy if we bombed the place so that only one person was left alive, I know that.

You want the whole world to be so? Ain't gonna happen.

But I also know that the US is supposed to stand for something, and allowing what that ******* animal assad, putin and iran have done there is unacceptable. They have been begging the US and West for help for 3 years. Yes, Turkey and Saudi arabia should have gotten off their asses, but they are afraid of the terrorist response from iran, whose death cannot come soon enough.

All countries go through disastrous periods like our Civil War. Every country has sovereignty and the right to learn its lessons. Do you want to fix China next? Dictatorships throughout the world through the centuries have always been plentiful. Why single out a few small Middle Eastern countries that are pushovers? Power and oil.

The reality is that a major war is coming to remove iran's illegal nuclear weapons program in the next 6 months to a year, so we might as well take out their ally in syria now. Besides, after assad had allowed jihadists to use his country as a primary forward base from which to attack US troops in iraq, he was as good as dead.

I once supported war with Iran long ago, but after all these wars, I have changed my stance and say just let them get the nukes. Smaller countries will get them sooner or later. Enough is enough.

We have plenty of criminals, drug traffickers, homeless throw-aways, etc. here. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

 

[flacaltenn]

If someone says yes they better explain themselves.

I say: "YES!!!"

THere are so many reasons to justify attacking syria, including shwoing the US still has deterrant capability, that we as a nation do not accept people slaughtering cowering women and children trying to hide in their closets, that in a time of need - with people practically begging us to help - we came through, that it is not acceptable to drop chemical weapons on cities, or carpet bomb whole neighborhoods, that anything that hurts syria hurts iran and hezbollah - which is of infinite importance, etc.

For those of you saying we have no dog in this fight, our security interests are not at stake, or pretend that it somehow makes you look intelligent with a foreign policy of isolationism - yes ron paul sycophants, I'm talking down to you - it does not, and you are wrong.

I wanted the fake, empty suit president to hammer syria 2 1/2 years ago, when he first started shooting unarmed protestors, and before the jihadist filth came in, but obama the community activist and orator-in-chief did nothing, as he has for almost 6 years in office.

I'm just glad France did not ignore our calls for help in 1776, or we'd be a commonwealth instead of a nation of our own.

Syria ain't the America Colonies -- and we are not France.

This is another unbelievable vote for the US to act like the RedNeck bros down the street riding the neighbors and waving AR's in the air.. A couple face tattoos and a bottle of Jim Beam..

Just to make people fear us.. Or what we might do.

You got a death wish for Assad? Good -- go rogue and join the resistance. CALL US when you decide who the "ben franklin" appointment that the "rebels" choose..

We should NEVER enter into a civil conflict abroad until we can identify a LEADERSHIP faction and negotiate with that LEADERSHIP faction and have some semblance of a promise that THEY are in charge of the rebellion... (like the French did in 1777).

Oh --- most importantly ---- they need to ASK US to help them...

Think the rebels would kick the jihadis to the curb in exchange for our help??

THAT'S A PREREQUISITE for even PONDERING going to war on their behalf..

 

[rhodescholar]

Well, suit up sparky, load up, head over, and kick some Assad butt.keyboard kommandos, always standing ready for somebody else to bleed

Good typical 3rd grade response from the mentally weak ron paul crowd. Sorry sweetie, we have a VOLUNTEER army, you might have heard. Oh but that's right, I did serve - did you *****?

Come back with a real argument when your momma gives you one.

 

[rhodescholar]

You got a death wish for Assad? Good -- go rogue and join the resistance. CALL US when you decide who the "ben franklin" appointment that the "rebels" choose..

Let's avoid the 3rd-grade responses, I don't need to become a cop to improve crime fighting in my area, no more than i need to be a teacher to improve schools. Bring a more intelligent argument, please.

We should NEVER enter into a civil conflict abroad until we can identify a LEADERSHIP faction

It has existed for almost a year, called the Syrian national council.

Oh --- most importantly ---- they need to ASK US to help them...

Syrian rebel leader asks Israel, US for help | The Times of Israel
FSA commander asks what are Syria's friends in the West waiting for? | The Majalla Magazine
Syrian rebels seek help waging civil war ? USATODAY.com

Think the rebels would kick the jihadis to the curb in exchange for our help??

Free Syrian army clashes with jihadists in wake of commander's assassination | World news | The Observer

READ UP AND LEARN.

 

[JWBooth]

Sorry sweetie, we have a VOLUNTEER army, you might have heard. Oh but that's right, I did serve - did you *****?

You want a war, volunteer already.
Handing out peanut butter sandwiches for the state guards hardly counts sparky, but since that's all you've got, and all you'll ever have, run with it.
Fuckin weekend warriors.

 

[Kondor3]

There is no compelling argument or casus belli for attacking Syria.

Let 'em rot, or, more specifically, let the Euros handle this stuff for once.

It's their backyard, and they been skating under our Protection Umbrella long enough to be recovered by now.

We're still engaged in one war, just finished another, our wallet is close to empty, the nation is rather war-weary and skeptical as hell, and we just don't need another rumble right now...

We've got enough on our plate trying to conjure-up a halfway decent economic recovery out of the economic wreckage of recent years.

Let's sit this one out.

 

[rhodescholar]

You want a war, volunteer already.

Asshole, STFU already, moron. I served more years than your useless existence has been in total.

I don't need to join anything, douchebag - the army is volunteer, they knew they might have to fight wars when they joined. Come back with a real argument, chimp.

 

[Kondor3]

I said something similar, earlier today...

95 to 96 percent of our board membership who took the survey, all reject the possibility of war...

Votes from the Left, Right and Center, and all damned-near unanimous, for once...

God, I'm proud of this bunch, today...

...

 

[JWBooth]

You want a war, volunteer already.

Asshole, STFU already, moron. I served more years than your useless existence has been in total.

Pfffffffft

your "service" is duly noted

 

[rhodescholar]

I said something similar, earlier today...

And only the sheep and the clueless follow the herd. Hopefully, they'll keep doing that with the stock market too, so i can keep raking in the dollars.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Compared to how we burned tens of thousands of Vietnamese with Napalm and Agent Orange, this is strictly small-time at best.

Short video about UN inspectors also:

Syrian opposition claims napalm attack on civilians in Aleppo | News.com.au

SYRIA'S opposition coalition says President Bashar al-Assad's forces had dropped phosphorus bombs and napalm on civilians in rural Aleppo, killing at least 10 people and wounding dozens.

The alleged attack occurred as the United States and its European and Middle Eastern partners honed plans to punish Assad for a major poison gas attack last week on the suburbs of the capital, Damascus, that killed hundreds of civilians.

US TO GO IT ALONE WITH STRIKE SYRIA

Video footage uploaded on the Internet, apparently of Monday's attack, showed doctors frantically smearing white cream on the reddened skin of several screaming people, many of them young boys.

The report has not been independently confirmed. There have been previous unconfirmed reports of the use of phosphorus bombs by Assad's forces during Syria's conflict. ...

Israel used phosphorous bombs in Gaza.

Video shows evidence of phosphorus bombs in Gaza | World news | theguardian.com

 

[paulitician]

If someone says yes they better explain themselves.

I say: "YES!!!"

THere are so many reasons to justify attacking syria, including shwoing the US still has deterrant capability, that we as a nation do not accept people slaughtering cowering women and children trying to hide in their closets, that in a time of need - with people practically begging us to help - we came through, that it is not acceptable to drop chemical weapons on cities, or carpet bomb whole neighborhoods, that anything that hurts syria hurts iran and hezbollah - which is of infinite importance, etc.

For those of you saying we have no dog in this fight, our security interests are not at stake, or pretend that it somehow makes you look intelligent with a foreign policy of isolationism - yes ron paul sycophants, I'm talking down to you - it does not, and you are wrong.

I wanted the fake, empty suit president to hammer syria 2 1/2 years ago, when he first started shooting unarmed protestors, and before the jihadist filth came in, but obama the community activist and orator-in-chief did nothing, as he has for almost 6 years in office.

I'm just glad France did not ignore our calls for help in 1776, or we'd be a commonwealth instead of a nation of our own.

Well, suit up sparky, load up, head over, and kick some Assad butt.

keyboard kommandos, always standing ready for somebody else to bleed

Good point. Let em spend their own blood & treasure. I'm good with that. It's their call. But don't force all Americans to pay for yet another useless War.

 

[paulitician]

I said something similar, earlier today...

95 to 96 percent of our board membership who took the survey, all reject the possibility of war...

Votes from the Left, Right and Center, and all damned-near unanimous, for once...

God, I'm proud of this bunch, today...

...

Yeah, the most one-sided Poll i've ever seen here at USMB. It's great to see. The People don't want or need this War. National Poll numbers are showing that too. The Government/Media Complex is doing its best to whip up support, but so far it's failing miserably. The People just aren't buying it this time. But i have a feeling it's gonna happen anyway.

We've given too much power to our President. This current President sees no reason to debate much in Congress. In a sense, he's gone rogue. Now i hear he's not even going to seek his beloved UN's approval. We as a Nation need to get our Presidents back in check. We need to balance the power again. Congress needs to assert itself. I guess we'll see where this one goes. I still see War with Syria, but it's great to see so many Americans speaking out against another useless War. I'm actually encouraged.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

No thanks.

 

[Mac1958]

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Our allies have said no.

No doubt Obama is regretting that "red line" comment.

This would be unilateral and an absolute disaster.

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