War With Syria: Yea Or Nay?

[Circe]

Jeepers! The British BLOCKED Cameron's war!

And didn't take any too long doing it, either, and he says he won't participate, now.

Well, darn, could our Congress do anything as bold as that? There's an op-ed my husband was telling me about that says only 9% of Americans support shelling Syria, so who exactly is it who DOES support going to war??

Inside Beltway types, State Department, perhaps. Not the Defense Department: Hagel is against the war, he's been saying so abroad.

Can Cameron politically survive such a whackdown? Can Obama survive just ---- deciding he's not allowed to do it after all? What a humiliation that would be.

Congress reconvenes from recess on the Tuesday after Labor Day, right? Barry needs to get on the stick and bomb, baby, bomb if he doesn't want to get blocked by a bunch of upset congressmen, I'd say.

But I hope he doesn't --- sort of refreshing to be united on one thing, at least. Look at the poll on this thread!!

 

[Circe]

look, I have said I recognize his right to perform such an action, but, 'not to be mocked'...thats, well, a ridiculous reasoning to undertake an action like this.....they have not the slightest idea what they are doing, they have no coherent plan, no coherent for. policy.....its, surreal.

I agree. It's just sorry.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

All it looks like the US will do is launch $50~$100 million worth of Tomahawk missles at them, it looks like they warned them and it will prolly be on Thursday. Big deal.

That's a foot in the door, no? And any ineffectiveness of an attack will only frustrate then galvanize the millions of Americans who are easily led by the nose and don't really spend any time thinking about the horrors of war, let alone the repercussions.

There's only one reason for ANY attack. In Libya it was a no-fly zone, wasn't it? All they need is an inch to take a mile.

 

[The T]

well not that the UK has turned a thumb down, obama has got to back up, and its not going to be pretty, I mean, this whole thing has been mismanaged horribly..and, if thats not enough;



Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked'
By Justin Sink - 08/28/13 12:45 PM ET


A U.S. official briefed on the military options being considered by President Obama told the Los Angeles Times that the White House is seeking a strike on Syria “just muscular enough not to get mocked.”

“They are looking at what is just enough to mean something, just enough to be more than symbolic,” the official told the paper, giving credence to similar reports describing a limited military strike in the aftermath of last week’s alleged chemical weapons attack.

NBC News reported earlier this week that the administration would launch three days of missile strikes, while CNN cited a senior administration official saying that the White House wanted to conclude any action before the president departs for the G-20 summit next week.

more at-
Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked' - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room




look, I have said I recognize his right to perform such an action, but, 'not to be mocked'...thats, well, a ridiculous reasoning to undertake an action like this.....they have not the slightest idea what they are doing, they have no coherent plan, no coherent for. policy.....its, surreal.

Tells me that Obama is working on and failing at securing his legacy apart from ObamaCare...the failure continues.

 

[R.C. Christian]

WWIII is about to be postponed.

 

[CrazedScotsman]

I'm going to say no.

I'm tired.

I'm tired of the United States always being the villain no matter what we do. I say to hell with the rest of the world, we have to take care of ourselves. You have a problem? DEAL WITH IT YOURSELF! Don't ask us for help any more.

One more thing, don't mess with us or our friends, we will mess you up.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

There would be no way to win. No!

It's not hard to level any country that's a sitting duck. They'd do it just to use up our backlog of bombs so we can have all fresh ones. Once you unleash them people.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

If someone says yes they better explain themselves.

I say yes Geneva Protocol
Geneva Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you dont you will have countrys using chemical weapons again. WW1 was enough.

When you put that kind of heat on any leader with the example made of Kadafi, it's inevitable that war crimes will occur. We are the ones invading other countries without provocation. Which is worse? Oh sorry, we mistakenly invaded Iraq, but it's all good.

 

[The T]

WWIII is about to be postponed.

Not fitting their narrative, is it? The people are awake. Can't have that. Let's see in the next few days what other tragic crap these elitist asswipes can cook up to avert our eyes and make us want to do it...

 

[skye]

Now there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is the laughing stock of the world because of his nervous indecision, if he puts down a red line he had to act upon it.... and the time for action was immediately after the gas attack!

Too late now.... he is blundering along and any respect he might have left is long gone.

Mr President: Make up you mind one way or another FOR HEAVENS SAKE!! .... and stop consulting Michelle, Valerie,Susan Rice, and Samantha!!!! They are clueless Mr President!

 

[Kondor3]

I wonder if the Joint Chiefs of Staff could stall for a few days, until Congress returns, if they get the order to Strike before then - stall without (technically) violating orders from the CinC?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

WWIII is about to be postponed.

Not fitting their narrative, is it? The people are awake. Can't have that. Let's see in the next few days what other tragic crap these elitist asswipes can cook up to avert our eyes and make us want to do it...

Show a puppy on national news being gassed with nerve gas like it did with Iraq.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Now there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is the laughing stock of the world because of his nervous indecision, if he puts down a red line he had to act upon it.... and the time for action was immediately after the gas attack!

Too late now.... he is blundering along and any respect he might have left is long gone.

Mr President: Make up you mind one way or another FOR HEAVENS SAKE!! .... and stop consulting Michelle, Valerie,Susan Rice, and Samantha!!!! They are clueless Mr President!

This has been the liberal ideology for years. Stand up, puff your chest out, beat your chest, then sit down and wring your hands - hoping that you have "scared" the opposition.

In other words - liberals are pussies.

There isn't a country in the world that fears this administration. NOT ONE. These countries look at Obama like an incompetent fool (which he is) and laugh Everytime he begins one of his blustery speeches.

Barry - my free advice to you - Sit down and shut the hell up.

 

[The T]

Now there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is the laughing stock of the world because of his nervous indecision, if he puts down a red line he had to act upon it.... and the time for action was immediately after the gas attack!

Too late now.... he is blundering along and any respect he might have left is long gone.

Mr President: Make up you mind one way or another FOR HEAVENS SAKE!! .... and stop consulting Michelle, Valerie,Susan Rice, and Samantha!!!! They are clueless Mr President!

Did you happen to hear the sound bytes from NPR last night saying he was weighing his options he was given by his advisors before HE makes a decision?

Any BET HE is waiting to see the world reaction before he makes a decision? He is leading from behind...again.

 

[The T]

I wonder if the Joint Chiefs of Staff could stall for a few days, until Congress returns, if they get the order to Strike before then - stall without (technically) violating orders from the CinC?

He won't do it. Great Britain's Parliament said NO...Now to see how Obama will backtrack and blame Republicans, Conservatives HERE...

WAIT FOR IT...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Now there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is the laughing stock of the world because of his nervous indecision, if he puts down a red line he had to act upon it.... and the time for action was immediately after the gas attack!

Too late now.... he is blundering along and any respect he might have left is long gone.

Mr President: Make up you mind one way or another FOR HEAVENS SAKE!! .... and stop consulting Michelle, Valerie,Susan Rice, and Samantha!!!! They are clueless Mr President!

Did you happen to hear the sound bytes from NPR last night saying he was weighing his options he was given by his advisors before HE makes a decision?

Any BET HE is waiting to see the world reaction before he makes a decision? He is leading from behind...again.

Are we sure obama is an American and not a Frenchman?

 

[RandallFlagg]

Now there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is the laughing stock of the world because of his nervous indecision, if he puts down a red line he had to act upon it.... and the time for action was immediately after the gas attack!

Too late now.... he is blundering along and any respect he might have left is long gone.

Mr President: Make up you mind one way or another FOR HEAVENS SAKE!! .... and stop consulting Michelle, Valerie,Susan Rice, and Samantha!!!! They are clueless Mr President!

Did you happen to hear the sound bytes from NPR last night saying he was weighing his options he was given by his advisors before HE makes a decision?

Any BET HE is waiting to see the world reaction before he makes a decision? He is leading from behind...again.

Hell, world reaction doesn't matter at this point. England has already made a laughing stock of Barry. England has followed us (or we them) for the last 100 years. FINALLY, they have said "no".

Make no mistake about it - this is a HUGE blow to Barry and his cohorts.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

With this much consensus it must clearly be wrong.

I'll offer the opposite view. Once Obama made an issue of Syria's use of chemical weapons then it became something we would have to do. Chemical weapons are the big taboo of war. Hardly anyone has used them since WW1. Even Hitler would not use chem weapons.
If we stand aside and let Assad's use of them go then it will give the greenlight to everyone in the world to start using them. We must take a stand, a credible one, and show that use of chemical weapons is unacceptable. Lobbing a few cruise missiles will not do that.
There are few good options here. That is the position Obama and his inexperience have gotten us into. But that is where we are.

I agree to this point. Barry stated (a year ago) that the use of chemical weapons would cross a "red" line. The time to "lob" a few missiles was THEN.

Here's my primary concern: Russia, China and Iran have told us to stay out of it. Syria is a HUGE ally of both Russia AND Iran. I can't help but believe that THEY are feeling the same pressure to back Assad AGAINST the US. At some point, Russia and Iran MUST support Assad. Will this be Russia's and Iran's "red" line also?

This could potentially become an extremely dangerous standoff. And for what? To overthrow one terrible regime in favor of another terrible regime?

I don't know. But I surely don't like the way this thing smells.

Yea, that sounds good but not something to rely on. We don't care if Iran get into it, since it would provide good practice and maneuvers for Iran for later on. We'd relish an easy solution to Iran. If Russia does more than protest and actually mounts forces then yea, we wouldn't invade. But they know if Russia is doing that or not. If Russia doesn't mount forces, I doubt we'll worry about it. I could be wrong.

 

[RandallFlagg]

I wonder if the Joint Chiefs of Staff could stall for a few days, until Congress returns, if they get the order to Strike before then - stall without (technically) violating orders from the CinC?

He won't do it. Great Britain's Parliament said NO...Now to see how Obama will backtrack and blame Republicans, Conservatives HERE...

WAIT FOR IT...

Im waiting for the inevitable "This is Bush's fault" speech.....

 

[The T]

Now there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is the laughing stock of the world because of his nervous indecision, if he puts down a red line he had to act upon it.... and the time for action was immediately after the gas attack!

Too late now.... he is blundering along and any respect he might have left is long gone.

Mr President: Make up you mind one way or another FOR HEAVENS SAKE!! .... and stop consulting Michelle, Valerie,Susan Rice, and Samantha!!!! They are clueless Mr President!

Did you happen to hear the sound bytes from NPR last night saying he was weighing his options he was given by his advisors before HE makes a decision?

Any BET HE is waiting to see the world reaction before he makes a decision? He is leading from behind...again.

Are we sure obama is an American and not a Frenchman?

Just someone exposing himself for his ideology...AND cowardice...He's making a mockery of US in the process...and that infuriates me the damage he's doing to US and our credibility.

Naturally? THIS all is about himself...and he is exposing it to the rest of the world. The man is a nutjob.