What happens is the important questions get put on a long list on nonsense questions and do not get the priority and focus needed. What proof does the President have that the chemical attack that occured was instigated by the Syrian government? If that question can not be answered should there be an attack? How sure do we have to be about that answer? What is the purpose of an attack on Syria? Is it to punish or is it to go after the chemical weapons so they can not be used again? If it is to punish, to what extent? If it is to go after chemical weapons, to what extent? Do we have legal authority to do any of these things? Does the President have this authority? Since it is not a situation where we are preventing imminent attack or saftey of American citizens or allies, is congressional action required? These are important questions that should be answered before an offensive operation is begun. Muddying the waters and adding non-related agenda's to the process is harmful, not helpful. Tricking people with misinformation, disinformation, fear and hatred is harmful, not helpful.
War With Syria: Yea Or Nay?
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What happens is the important questions get put on a long list on nonsense questions and do not get the priority and focus needed. What proof does the President have that the chemical attack that occured was instigated by the Syrian government? If that question can not be answered should there be an attack? How sure do we have to be about that answer? What is the purpose of an attack on Syria? Is it to punish or is it to go after the chemical weapons so they can not be used again? If it is to punish, to what extent? If it is to go after chemical weapons, to what extent? Do we have legal authority to do any of these things? Does the President have this authority? Since it is not a situation where we are preventing imminent attack or saftey of American citizens or allies, is congressional action required? These are important questions that should be answered before an offensive operation is begun. Muddying the waters and adding non-related agenda's to the process is harmful, not helpful. Tricking people with misinformation, disinformation, fear and hatred is harmful, not helpful.
namvet
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the only thing in the football is a chicken switch
Poor credibility, true. However, it is the case that an attack on Syria would give Iran something to think about, wouldn't it? '
As opposed to the big O walking away after all this fuss. Iran would just say, "Paper tiger," and build more centrifuges.
What in the world is a chicken switch???
What football?
What are you talking about? This is a thread on a possible upcoming strike on Syria.
namvet
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since you don't know they should put YOU in charge LMFAO !!!!!
One of these useless one-line posters. Has nothing to say on the topic whatsoever and IQ too low to push out any more words than a short line of nothing.
We're discussing a serious topic here. Why don't you go start a thread on current events about Revolution or Secession or black Flash Mobs? That would be more fun for you.
namvet
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seriously kid you have to be the only one on the planet who doesn't know what the football is. that's just incredible !!!!!!!
What Iran would think about is building more centrifuges faster. A strike on Syria would work exactly the same way the sanctions against Iran worked. It would incentivize the country to redouble their efforts to fight Jews and infidels.
They'd probably be mixed about that. The closer they get to completion, the more they'd entice an Obama reaction. He's already kicked in a few doors and had far less domestic opposition than Bush. All Iran needs is one more crackdown on the Green Revolution guys to act as a catalyst...
antiquity
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If Obama hadn't opened his big mouth about a red line that by the way has seem to gotten really, really wide in recent months, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Obama has almost backed himself and the American people into a corner with that comment and now he has to do something. And if he does the wrong thing and attacks Syria he and his liberal supports will lose political support at home....now we all know he won't do that.
Case closed.
His little one liner gave more data than most of the post here. You are just one of those folks who insults and attacks when someone says something you don't understand. Don't be lazy. Get out of the bubble sometimes and learn new stuff.
RandallFlagg
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Quite frankly, after this AM, I think this is much ado about nothing. OBarry has literally TOLD Syria what he intends to do and just WHERE he intends to do it.
I can see 3 or 4 Cruise Missiles being fired at dirt (Syria, I'm sure is in the process of moving these targets) and OBarry will trumpet how he "showed them".
This is little more than bluster from a little boy toward a bully.
OBarry is praying right now that this blows over and he doesn't actually have to do anything.
Move along folks. Nothing to see here. Back to the Trayvon Martin verdict.
I can see 3 or 4 Cruise Missiles being fired at dirt (Syria, I'm sure is in the process of moving these targets) and OBarry will trumpet how he "showed them".
This is little more than bluster from a little boy toward a bully.
OBarry is praying right now that this blows over and he doesn't actually have to do anything.
Move along folks. Nothing to see here. Back to the Trayvon Martin verdict.
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i don't even support sending them, egypt or libya aid
Kondor3
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BBC America TV News is reporting (as I write this) that Parliament has just voted NOT to support military intervention against Syria...
An apparent defeat for Prime Minister David Cameron...
By a margin of 13 votes...
Good on the Brits...
I wonder if Fearless Leader still intends to proceed, in the wake of that...
One more vote to come in Parliament, after the UN Inspectors issue their report...
And, earlier in the day, BBC America was reporting that the Inspectors were scheduled to leave Syria on Saturday (August 31st)...
That seems to put the kabosh on immediate (pre-report) action, unless Fearless Leader decides to go it alone...
An apparent defeat for Prime Minister David Cameron...
By a margin of 13 votes...
Good on the Brits...
I wonder if Fearless Leader still intends to proceed, in the wake of that...
One more vote to come in Parliament, after the UN Inspectors issue their report...
And, earlier in the day, BBC America was reporting that the Inspectors were scheduled to leave Syria on Saturday (August 31st)...
That seems to put the kabosh on immediate (pre-report) action, unless Fearless Leader decides to go it alone...
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RandallFlagg
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Yep. The primary reason that our Supreme Leader wants to forego Congressional support (remember, HE doesn't follow the Constitution) to "lob" missiles into Syria..
The British are correct and we should deny OBarry the ability to do this as well.
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BBC News - David Cameron loses Commons vote on Syria action
The idiot British PM has lost in a big way.
Big isn't the 13 votes; it's the enforced policy change that'll make him look out of touch and weak.
America's stupid president will either have to act alone or look just as idiotic.
That'll be his bribe money from Israel out of the window.
The idiot British PM has lost in a big way.
Big isn't the 13 votes; it's the enforced policy change that'll make him look out of touch and weak.
America's stupid president will either have to act alone or look just as idiotic.
That'll be his bribe money from Israel out of the window.
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Clinton did this during the Monica Lewinsky furor...nailed an 'aspirin factory' and ended up killing a janitor.
Statist Dems are good at 'Wag the dog'.
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As to the bolded keep in mind this is alqaida and the muslim brotherhood we're talking about here. There will be casualties as they will stage them there. Take a few political prisoners and their families to the target location to be blown up then scream like crazy how the Americans murdered women, children and stand up members of the community.
QuickHitCurepon
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The U.S. is slowly but methodically conquering the Middle East. We will always have a good reason to level Iran with air power, so we can leave it for last. It sure helps that we got Iraq in our pocket, eh?
I didn't support any of the wars in the Middle East and was vocal against them all including Afghanistan. All we had to do was send the rangers in to get Bin Laden without invading their country, instead of waiting 10 years to do just exactly that, violating the sovereignty of Pakistan. So why were we worried about violating a little bit of the Taliban's reign to get Bin Laden? We weren't really interested in that only. We wanted revenge for 911 and a lot of it no matter who they were, just as long as they were Muslim.
If it took us 10 years to get Bin Laden, it was obviously impossible for Afghanistan to comply with our ultimatum to hand him over. It was obvious to me in 2001. The Taliban were never our enemy and need never have been.
The Civil War in Syria didn't get going until we invaded Libya. By doing that, we gave spark to insurrection in Syria, and if we invade Syria, it will only get worse in that region. Stop the madness.
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Trajan
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well not that the UK has turned a thumb down, obama has got to back up, and its not going to be pretty, I mean, this whole thing has been mismanaged horribly..and, if thats not enough;
Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked'
By Justin Sink - 08/28/13 12:45 PM ET
A U.S. official briefed on the military options being considered by President Obama told the Los Angeles Times that the White House is seeking a strike on Syria “just muscular enough not to get mocked.”
“They are looking at what is just enough to mean something, just enough to be more than symbolic,” the official told the paper, giving credence to similar reports describing a limited military strike in the aftermath of last week’s alleged chemical weapons attack.
NBC News reported earlier this week that the administration would launch three days of missile strikes, while CNN cited a senior administration official saying that the White House wanted to conclude any action before the president departs for the G-20 summit next week.
more at-
Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked' - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room
look, I have said I recognize his right to perform such an action, but, 'not to be mocked'...thats, well, a ridiculous reasoning to undertake an action like this.....they have not the slightest idea what they are doing, they have no coherent plan, no coherent for. policy.....its, surreal.
Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked'
By Justin Sink - 08/28/13 12:45 PM ET
A U.S. official briefed on the military options being considered by President Obama told the Los Angeles Times that the White House is seeking a strike on Syria “just muscular enough not to get mocked.”
“They are looking at what is just enough to mean something, just enough to be more than symbolic,” the official told the paper, giving credence to similar reports describing a limited military strike in the aftermath of last week’s alleged chemical weapons attack.
NBC News reported earlier this week that the administration would launch three days of missile strikes, while CNN cited a senior administration official saying that the White House wanted to conclude any action before the president departs for the G-20 summit next week.
more at-
Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked' - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room
look, I have said I recognize his right to perform such an action, but, 'not to be mocked'...thats, well, a ridiculous reasoning to undertake an action like this.....they have not the slightest idea what they are doing, they have no coherent plan, no coherent for. policy.....its, surreal.
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