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the key to the ae911truth presentation is a list of all characteristics of controlled demolition. Any presenter for the group gives this list first and then compares features of the wtc collapses to the list. As the talk progresses, the presenter checks each off and thus appears to demonstrate that the wtc collapses had to be controlled demolitions.
However, the group possesses no credible authority for presenting such a list. The founder, richard gage, is an architect by training, not a demolition expert. Since its evident that the group has simply drawn the list up based on things they think they observe in the collapses, the list is actually an example of the texas sharpshooter fallacy.
For example, ae911truth changes the list based on whether they believe they can demonstrate the characteristic. This was done recently when gage admitted that he could not prove the existence of squibs in the collapse of 7 world trade. Instead of recognizing the weakness of his argument, he simply changed the list for 7 world trade to eliminate the squibs feature.
Indeed, the current version of the presentation slideshow first gives a list of cd characteristics, then changes it slightly for 7 world trade, and then changes it even more substantially for the towers. Ae911truth cannot win even when it stacks the deck for itself!
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ok! and yours has a point, other than it has no basis in fact?changing list
the key to the ae911truth presentation is a list of all characteristics of controlled demolition. Any presenter for the group gives this list first and then compares features of the wtc collapses to the list. As the talk progresses, the presenter checks each off and thus appears to demonstrate that the wtc collapses had to be controlled demolitions.
However, the group possesses no credible authority for presenting such a list. The founder, richard gage, is an architect by training, not a demolition expert. Since its evident that the group has simply drawn the list up based on things they think they observe in the collapses, the list is actually an example of the texas sharpshooter fallacy.
For example, ae911truth changes the list based on whether they believe they can demonstrate the characteristic. This was done recently when gage admitted that he could not prove the existence of squibs in the collapse of 7 world trade. Instead of recognizing the weakness of his argument, he simply changed the list for 7 world trade to eliminate the squibs feature.
Indeed, the current version of the presentation slideshow first gives a list of cd characteristics, then changes it slightly for 7 world trade, and then changes it even more substantially for the towers. Ae911truth cannot win even when it stacks the deck for itself!
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more of your pointless drivel...
Anyway, who's going to be at ground zero for the 10th anniversary of the false flag attack to attempt to engage in discussion with people and have many of them start screaming at you with arguments like "Its not possible!!" or "Nobody would do such a thing" or any other irrational emotion filled based claim that makes no sense while we get to be pushed into the little NYPD approved area and are treated rudely by them?
if you had any real conviction you'd find a way ,after all the fate of the world is in your hands!Anyway, who's going to be at ground zero for the 10th anniversary of the false flag attack to attempt to engage in discussion with people and have many of them start screaming at you with arguments like "Its not possible!!" or "Nobody would do such a thing" or any other irrational emotion filled based claim that makes no sense while we get to be pushed into the little NYPD approved area and are treated rudely by them?
I was planning on it,i really wanted to but money is tight right now and I wont be able to.
On the political front...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHo5hNCvLb4&feature=player_embedded
Spread the word and research what the real issues are with the NIST investigation and the problems the families of the victims of 9-11 and many others have with the explanation that was told to the country.
On the political front...‪Help put this TV Ad on the Air -- Go to RememberBuilding7.org‬‏ - YouTube
Spread the word and research what the real issues are with the NIST investigation and the problems the families of the victims of 9-11 and many others have with the explanation that was told to the country.
Getting an impartial and scientific investigation into the events of 911 would be much easier if hundreds of Republican AND Democratic incumbents are FLUSHED from DC in November 2012.
For many voters, this requires choosing from established third-party candidates already appearing on their ballots.
FLUSH the DC toilet in 2012, and then put Bush, Cheney, and Rummy on the stand under oath.
That would be Hope and Change we could all Believe in.
an assholes and egotists poll skewed pov and worthless."Following the launch of the TV ad campaign on Monday June 6, Remember Building 7 released the results from a new poll we commissioned, conducted by the Siena Research Institute, on what New Yorkers believe about 9/11..."
"1 in 3 New Yorkers were unaware of Building 7s collapse, only 25 percent have ever seen video footage of the collapse, and 86 percent were unable to name the building;
Of those aware of Building 7s collapse, 24 percent believe it was a controlled demolition, 23 percent are unsure, and 49 percent believe it was caused by fires.."
"When respondents are informed that the government issued a report in 2008 concluding fires brought down Building 7, and they are informed that there are critics including 1,500 architects and engineers who dispute the governments report, saying that only explosives can account for Building 7s collapse, 36 percent of all respondents say they are inclined to believe the critics, 40 percent are inclined to believe the governments account, and 23 percent are unsure;
Given the above information, 48 percent are in favor of the Manhattan District Attorney or New York City Council opening a new investigation into Building 7s collapse, 44 percent are opposed and 8 percent dont know or refused to answer."
Poll: 48% of New Yorkers Support Building 7 Investigation
Is it time for a full investigation into the collapse of WTC 7?
freefall...Obviously you are not interested in the answer.In what way(s) is(are) the poll skewed?
Do you have any "thoughts" on free fall?
"Responding to the criticism, NIST in its final report issued in November 2008 did finally acknowledge that Building 7 descended at free fall.
"According to NIST, 'This free fall drop continued for approximately 8 stories, or 32.0 meters (105 ft), the distance traveled between times t = 1.75 s and t = 4.0 s [a period of 2.25 seconds].'[v]
"However, NIST did not attempt to explain how Building 7s free fall descent could have occurred."
Remember Building 7 | Stand with the 9-11 families demanding a NEW Building 7 investigation - Free Fall Collapse
freefall...Obviously you are not interested in the answer.In what way(s) is(are) the poll skewed?
Do you have any "thoughts" on free fall?
"Responding to the criticism, NIST in its final report issued in November 2008 did finally acknowledge that Building 7 descended at free fall.
"According to NIST, 'This free fall drop continued for approximately 8 stories, or 32.0 meters (105 ft), the distance traveled between times t = 1.75 s and t = 4.0 s [a period of 2.25 seconds].'[v]
"However, NIST did not attempt to explain how Building 7s free fall descent could have occurred."
Remember Building 7 | Stand with the 9-11 families demanding a NEW Building 7 investigation - Free Fall Collapse
Any object that falls from a stand still under gravity only is considered free falling and therefore would be falling at free fall speed.
An object gains speed because of accelleration do to gravity and the shape of the object determines the terminal velocity.
If a structure like a highrise building has its main struts compromized on the sides of the building as the wtc building was made. and if the remaining beams are WEAKEned AND that is weakened you dont need them to melt to have them bend and colapse under a stress of tonnes of weight.
Add to that the physics of a mass of say 10 to 20 floors suddenly collapsing on the supports of the floor on the 21 floor from the top.
that would once the one floor collapses would create more stress on each successive lower level thus creating a pancake effect.
And yes it has happened many times where buildings PANCAKE when the supports were substandard for the structure. This is in the news many times. So its NOT hard for someone with some sense of common sense to believe that something as unusual as a PLANE crashing into the building would cause a catrostrophic reaction like PANCAKING the building falling down on itself.
Hope you enjoyed the answer.
have you forgotten! there are no more floors of wtc7 to study!freefall...Obviously you are not interested in the answer.In what way(s) is(are) the poll skewed?
Do you have any "thoughts" on free fall?
"Responding to the criticism, NIST in its final report issued in November 2008 did finally acknowledge that Building 7 descended at free fall.
"According to NIST, 'This free fall drop continued for approximately 8 stories, or 32.0 meters (105 ft), the distance traveled between times t = 1.75 s and t = 4.0 s [a period of 2.25 seconds].'[v]
"However, NIST did not attempt to explain how Building 7s free fall descent could have occurred."
Remember Building 7 | Stand with the 9-11 families demanding a NEW Building 7 investigation - Free Fall Collapse
Any object that falls from a stand still under gravity only is considered free falling and therefore would be falling at free fall speed.
An object gains speed because of accelleration do to gravity and the shape of the object determines the terminal velocity.
If a structure like a highrise building has its main struts compromized on the sides of the building as the wtc building was made. and if the remaining beams are WEAKEned AND that is weakened you dont need them to melt to have them bend and colapse under a stress of tonnes of weight.
Add to that the physics of a mass of say 10 to 20 floors suddenly collapsing on the supports of the floor on the 21 floor from the top.
that would once the one floor collapses would create more stress on each successive lower level thus creating a pancake effect.
And yes it has happened many times where buildings PANCAKE when the supports were substandard for the structure. This is in the news many times. So its NOT hard for someone with some sense of common sense to believe that something as unusual as a PLANE crashing into the building would cause a catrostrophic reaction like PANCAKING the building falling down on itself.
Hope you enjoyed the answer.
many times really can you provide an example ?....and so where are the pancaked floors after the collapse of wtc ?