USS Liberty

[Grau]

"STILL NO $10,000- REWARD; THE LIBERTY CHALLENGE"

Of course, you know this is misleading, but you just don't care. There were two attacks: the air attack and the naval attack. Both were understandable, explainable accidents. Indeed, the naval attack happened because the Liberty mistakenly fired on the Israeli torpedo boats after the boats had asked the Liberty to ID herself. And, even the Liberty's captain suspected that the air attack had been accidental. These facts and many others have been presented to you several times, but you are such an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel bigot that you don't care.

For the sake of others, here's another good article on the USS Liberty incident: Return of the USS Liberty, published on the HonestReporting website. Here's an excerpt:

New top-secret documents released by America’s National Security Agency confirm that Israel’s sinking of the USS Liberty was an accident. The documents are a transcript of conversations held by two Israeli Air Force helicopter pilots who were hovering over the Liberty as it was sinking. An American spy plane recorded their conversations, which refer to a search for Egyptian survivors from the “Egyptian warship” that had just been bombed. . . .

Florida Judge Jay Cristol said: “It’s the last piece of intelligence that remained classified, and every rational person that will read it will understand that there is no truth in these conspiracy theories against Israel. [But] those who hate Israel, who hate Jews, and those who believe in conspiracy, will not be convinced by anything.” (Return of the USS Liberty | Honest Reporting)

If your only source is a proven liar who hides from a public challenge there's no reason to even read it.


$10,000 Challenge
https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/10000challenge.html
"The Liberty Veterans Association offers a $10,000 reward to anyone who can establish the truth of A. Jay Cristol's claim:

"After ten official US investigations (including five congressional investigations), there was never any evidence that the attack was made with knowledge that the target was a US ship."
----------------------------------------------------

In the previous pages, I've debunked everything you've claimed in your bizarre loyalty to a hostile foreign government.

Additionally, I asked you to explain how IDF "accidentally machine gunned lowered life rafts from the Liberty at close range.
I have yet to see a response.

I also asked how an ethical Israeli pilot "accidentally" got orders to attack a clearly identified American ship, defied those orders and was locked up for acting honorably.
Still no response.

Unfortunately, you have yet to acknowledge that Israel's earlier False Flag attack (1) on an American Installation proves a deliberate intent to deceive America into attacking Egypt for them.

What more possible proof could you need to see that the Liberty attack was a deliberate False Flag attack than the fact that our "ally" attacked an American installation in a previous False Flag attack?


(1) "THE LAVON AFFAIR IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF?"
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

EXCERPT "In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Egyptian Muslims as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring.

Some of the spies were from Israel, while others were recruited from the local Jewish population. Israel responded to the scandal with claims in the media that there was no spy ring, that it was all a hoax perpetrated by "anti-Semites".

But as the public trial progressed, it was evident that Israel had indeed been behind the bombing."CONTINUED

 

[JoeB131]

Of course, you know this is misleading, but you just don't care. There were two attacks: the air attack and the naval attack. Both were understandable, explainable accidents. Indeed, the naval attack happened because the Liberty mistakenly fired on the Israeli torpedo boats after the boats had asked the Liberty to ID herself. And, even the Liberty's captain suspected that the air attack had been accidental. These facts and many others have been presented to you several times, but you are such an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel bigot that you don't care.

You are right, I don't believe the Zionist Shitstains, and I don't believe our lying traitor government that sold out to them decades ago.

What amazes me is with all the whacko shit you do buy into, you take the government word on this one.

 

[mikegriffith1]

"STILL NO $10,000- REWARD; THE LIBERTY CHALLENGE"

If your only source is a proven liar who hides from a public challenge there's no reason to even read it.

$10,000 Challenge
https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/10000challenge.html
"The Liberty Veterans Association offers a $10,000 reward to anyone who can establish the truth of A. Jay Cristol's claim:

Unfortunately, you have yet to acknowledge that Israel's earlier False Flag attack (1) on an American Installation proves a deliberate intent to deceive America into attacking Egypt for them.

What more possible proof could you need to see that the Liberty attack was a deliberate False Flag attack than the fact that our "ally" attacked an American installation in a previous False Flag attack?

(1) "THE LAVON AFFAIR IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF?"
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

EXCERPT "In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Egyptian Muslims as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring.

Some of the spies were from Israel, while others were recruited from the local Jewish population. Israel responded to the scandal with claims in the media that there was no spy ring, that it was all a hoax perpetrated by "anti-Semites".

But as the public trial progressed, it was evident that Israel had indeed been behind the bombing."CONTINUED

You are right, I don't believe the Zionist *&$%$#, and I don't believe our lying traitor government that sold out to them decades ago.

What amazes me is with all the whacko &^%&*$# you do buy into, you take the government word on this one.

I just wanted to highlight the latest garbage from our proud Holocaust-denying anti-Semite (Grau) and our proud anti-Semitic Israel basher (JoeB131). They are still doubling down on the fringe USS Liberty conspiracy theory, a theory that has been rejected by every single historian who has examined it and by every U.S. Government investigation that has looked into it. These guys just don't care about those facts, as evidenced by the extremist anti-Semitic/anti-Israel sources they keep citing.

Grau: The Lavon Affair was not intended to induce America to attack Egypt. It was intended merely to persuade England to keep its troops in the Suez Canal zone so that Egypt could not ban Israeli ships from the canal. The operation caused no deaths or injuries. The bombs were timed to go off when the facilities would be empty. And, most important, the operation was a rogue operation carried out without the knowledge or approval of Israel's prime minister.

The $10,000 challenge has been met several times by several scholars, but the Israel-hating group that offers the challenge has refused to honor their word and refused to pay up.

And, it is worth repeating that you proudly deny the Holocaust.

JoeB131: You, of all people, have no business calling anything "whacko," especially not my fact-based rejection of the inexcusable USS Liberty conspiracy theory. You have made so many downright bizarre, and often obscene, claims on this board that one has to question your grip on reality. Just a few examples: You've claimed that Jews never pass up a chance to make money, that there would have been no wars in the Middle East since 1948 if the Jews had not established the state of Israel (no, folks, I'm not exaggerating one little bit), that there is an international Zionist conspiracy and that it has exercised great control over the U.S. Government for decades (again, folks, not kidding one tiny bit), that the Israelis were "anxious" to give up the Sinai in the Camp David negotiations, that Red China was less oppressive than Free China (Taiwan), that Mao and Stalin did not murder tens of millions of people, that Mao was a great leader, that the Mormons "slaughtered" Indians on their way to Utah, and that Israel knowingly attacked the USS Liberty to draw America into the Six-Day War (never mind that the Israelis already had the war won at that point).

This is a small sampling of the man's fringe views.

 

[JoeB131]

I just wanted to highlight the latest garbage from our two proud Holocaust-denying (Grau)/Holocaust-minimizing (JoeB131) anti-Semites and Israel bashers. They are still doubling down on the fringe USS Liberty conspiracy theory, a theory that has been rejected by every single historian who has examined it and by every U.S. Government investigation that has looked into it. These guys just don't care about those facts, as evidenced by the extremist anti-Semitic/anti-Israel sources they keep citing.

Where did I minimize the Holocaust. I admit it happened and that 6 million Jews died. (Unlike you claiming the Japanese didn't murder millions across Asia.

JoeB131: You, of all people, have no business calling anything "whacko," especially not my fact-based rejection of the inexcusable USS Liberty conspiracy theory. You have made so many downright bizarre, and often obscene, claims on this board that one has to question your grip on reality. Just a few examples: You've claimed that Jews never pass up a chance to make money,

Have you met Jews?

that there would have been no wars in the Middle East since 1948 if the Jews had not established the state of Israel (no, folks, I'm not exaggerating one little bit),

Well, no wars we'd be involved in, that was my point. Would they fight each other? Maybe. Would it be our problem? No.

that there is an international Zionist conspiracy and that it has exercised great control over the U.S. Government for decades (again, folks, not kidding one tiny bit),

I wish I was kidding. Have you met AIPAC? Can you name another foreign country that has a lobby that has the control that AIPAC does that both parties live in terror or it? I can't.

that the Israelis were "anxious" to give up the Sinai in the Camp David negotiations,

Um, they gave up the Sinai for practically nothing more than Sadat's word. A year later, Sadat was dead.

that Red China was less oppressive than Free China (Taiwan), that Mao and Stalin did not murder tens of millions of people, that Mao was a great leader,

There was no "Free China". There was Nationalist (Fascist) China, a corrupt regime propped up by warlords and foreign investment. Von Ribbontrop actually pushed for an alliance with China because their views were more in line with the Nazis than Japan's.

that the Mormons "slaughtered" Indians on their way to Utah,

Established historical fact. What happened to the Ute and Paiute Indians?

and that Israel knowingly attacked the USS Liberty to draw America into the Six-Day War (never mind that the Israelis already had the war won at that point).

That or to cover up the fact they had illegally launched the war.

Um, the Israelis are still fighting in Gaza and the West Bank. The "Six Day War" is more like the "Sixty-year War".

 

[mikegriffith1]

Where did I minimize the Holocaust. I admit it happened and that 6 million Jews died.

Have you not on several occasions made light of the Holocaust, complained that Jews "whine" about the Holocaust too much, and claimed that the alleged international Zionist conspiracy has exploited the Holocaust to hep it achieve control? Have you not said such things?

Now, it is possible that some of these arguments were made by others and that I have incorrectly attributed them to you. I would have to go back through your replies to be certain, but I'm fairly positive that you have made at least some of these kinds of statements.

But, to err on the side of caution, I will refrain from accusing of minimizing the Holocaust until I've had the chance to go through your previous replies, some of which were posted two to three years ago. Also, I have edited my previous reply to remove the statement that you minimize the Holocaust.

On the other hand, I will continue to point out that you cite and praise sources that deny the Holocaust.

(Unlike you claiming the Japanese didn't murder millions across Asia.

Nope, you know this is misleading. I've said countless times that the Japanese army frequently behaved in a disgraceful, barbaric manner during the war in China and during the war in the Pacific. I also make this clear in my book on Pearl Harbor. I just don't buy your wildly inflated numbers, and I note that the Chinese Communists murdered tens of millions of Chinese to consolidate their power.

 

[Grau]

"ALL SLANDER, NO SUBSTANCE"

I just wanted to highlight the latest garbage from our proud Holocaust-denying anti-Semite (Grau) and our proud anti-Semitic Israel basher (JoeB131). They are still doubling down on the fringe USS Liberty conspiracy theory, a theory that has been rejected by every single historian who has examined it and by every U.S. Government investigation that has looked into it. These guys just don't care about those facts, as evidenced by the extremist anti-Semitic/anti-Israel sources they keep citing.

Grau: The Lavon Affair was not intended to induce America to attack Egypt. It was intended merely to persuade England to keep its troops in the Suez Canal zone so that Egypt could not ban Israeli ships from the canal. The operation caused no deaths or injuries. The bombs were timed to go off when the facilities would be empty. And, most important, the operation was a rogue operation carried out without the knowledge or approval of Israel's prime minister.

The $10,000 challenge has been met several times by several scholars, but the Israel-hating group that offers the challenge has refused to honor their word and refused to pay up.

And, it is worth repeating that you proudly deny the Holocaust.

JoeB131: You, of all people, have no business calling anything "whacko," especially not my fact-based rejection of the inexcusable USS Liberty conspiracy theory. You have made so many downright bizarre, and often obscene, claims on this board that one has to question your grip on reality. Just a few examples: You've claimed that Jews never pass up a chance to make money, that there would have been no wars in the Middle East since 1948 if the Jews had not established the state of Israel (no, folks, I'm not exaggerating one little bit), that there is an international Zionist conspiracy and that it has exercised great control over the U.S. Government for decades (again, folks, not kidding one tiny bit), that the Israelis were "anxious" to give up the Sinai in the Camp David negotiations, that Red China was less oppressive than Free China (Taiwan), that Mao and Stalin did not murder tens of millions of people, that Mao was a great leader, that the Mormons "slaughtered" Indians on their way to Utah, and that Israel knowingly attacked the USS Liberty to draw America into the Six-Day War (never mind that the Israelis already had the war won at that point).

This is a small sampling of the man's fringe views.

There's not a word of truth in this additional Off-Topic anti American spamtrum.

Instead of an honest, mature and articulate comment addressing the topic at hand, all you are capable of composing is yet another evasive, puerile and and unsupportable string of cowardly lies exposing the degree to which you hate America and the loyal Americans who serve it.

As I predicted, you are completely unable to explain how the IDF could "accidentally" machine gun lowered life rafts from the Liberty at close range (1) because that incident, alone, proves that the attack was a deliberate attempt to murder every American G.I. on that ship.
After all, they're just Americans and not one of your dear genocidal Zionist IDFers.

Of course you carefully evaded explaining how an ethical Israeli pilot (2) "accidentally" notified the Israelis that the ship was American, was told to attack the ship anyway but refused and was locked up for refusing to murder unarmed Americans.
But, after all, they were just American G.I.s so, who cares....... Right?

As long as it doesn't impede the flow of $ Trillions to the genocidal foreign regime to which you are most loyal, who cares how many Americans get killed in failed Zionist false flag betrayals?

Since no steaming pile of Ziono-babble would be complete without fatuous accusations of "Holocaust denier", "anti Semite" and "Israel basher", it's worth remembering that:


"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser"
- Socrates
I have repeated asked our gaggle of lying and insulting Zionist shills to show anywhere where I have denied that the Holocaust happened, written anything contemptuous of all Jews or expressed a wish for the destruction of Israel but, to this day, not one has been able to do so.

However, dishonest accusations of anti Semitism and Holocaust denying are so common that former Israeli Education Minister, Shulamit Aloni regards the practice as a "Trick:

EXCERPT "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.”CONTINUED

Now, "mikegriffith1", go find just one place where I have either denied that the Holocaust happened, slandered all Jews or expressed a wish for Israel's destruction.

If you can't, then anyone would be justified in calling you a liar, Right?




(1). "Commonly Asked Questions about the USS Liberty"

"Prepared by the Independent Commission of Inquiry"

Commonly Asked Questions about the USS Liberty

If Americans Knew is dedicated to providing Americans with everything they need to know about Israel and Palestine.

ifamericaknew.org

EXCERPT "After the attack was thought to have ended, three life rafts were lowered into the water to rescue the most seriously wounded. The Israeli torpedo boats returned and machine-gunned these life rafts at close range."CONTINUED



(2). "Israeli Pilot Speaks Up"
https://www.wrmea.org/1993-june/the-assault-on-the-uss-liberty-still-covered-up-after-26-years.html

EXCERPT "Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."CONTINUED

 

[JoeB131]

Have you not on several occasions made light of the Holocaust, complained that Jews "whine" about the Holocaust too much, and claimed that the alleged international Zionist conspiracy has exploited the Holocaust to hep it achieve control? Have you not said such things?

i think my point, before you go taking something you find out of context, is that the Jews use the Holocaust as an excuse for bad behavior, whether it be the Israelis using it to justify their nonsense, to someone like Lisa who whines about it when she expresses why she's okay with her racism.

But, to err on the side of caution, I will refrain from accusing of minimizing the Holocaust until I've had the chance to go through your previous replies, some of which were posted two to three years ago. Also, I have edited my previous reply to remove the statement that you minimize the Holocaust.

Wow, so how many of my posts will you read and still not get the point?

Nope, you know this is misleading. I've said countless times that the Japanese army frequently behaved in a disgraceful, barbaric manner during the war in China and during the war in the Pacific. I also make this clear in my book on Pearl Harbor. I just don't buy your wildly inflated numbers, and I note that the Chinese Communists murdered tens of millions of Chinese to consolidate their power.

Actually, I've been to your REAL ISSUES home page (Because I need a good laugh sometimes) where its chalk full of excusing Japanese atrocities or minimizing them.

 

[Grau]

I'm still waiting for mikegriffith1 to support his slanderous falsehoods and show where I have ever claimed that the Holocaust didn't happen, have written anything hostile about all Jews or called for Israel's destruction.

The only way to deter the lies and slander so dear to the Zionist heart is to expose their slanderous lies and the liars who tell them.

Israel's greatest enemies are the genocidal, right wing Zionist shills who support a regime of murderous miscreants determined to drag the US into an unwinnable War on Islam just so that foreign Jews can steal more Arab with their filthy(1), (2) and militant "Settlements".




(1). "Settlers Dump Sewage On Palestinian Land"

Settlers Dump Sewage On Palestinian Land

Anna Lekas Miller reports on a protest in the West Bank village of Sebastiya, where Israeli settlers from Shavei Shomron have started dumping their sewage.

www.thedailybeast.com

(2). "West Bank: Israeli settlement wastewater destroys Palestinian lands and livelihoods"

West Bank: Israeli settlement wastewater destroys Palestinian lands and livelihoods

A new report from the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) has laid bare the devastating environmental and economic consequences of the unlawful discharge of...

www.nrc.no

EXCERPT "“Israel's settlements routinely contaminate critical water systems and agricultural lands with wastewater, exacerbating environmental risks, further destabilising the already fragile Palestinian economy, and heightening the likelihood of various diseases like diarrhoea and kidney failure,” added Hadid.

According to farming communities interviewed in the research, untreated wastewater discharge has led to a steep decline in income as a result of reduced crop yields and difficulties marketing produce associated with sewage contamination." CONTINUED

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Total hogwash. You haven't read a single link I've provided, have you? And you keep ignoring the other friendly fire cases that I've discussed, in addition to the mitigating facts about the USS Liberty attack, such as the transcripts that prove the Israelis did not know the ship was American until after the attack.

Do you also believe there is no way the two American F-15 pilots could have accidentally shot down the two Black Hawk helicopters by somehow mistaking them for Soviet-made Hind helicopters in the 1994 Black Hawk shootdown incident, given the fact that they were clearly marked with American flags and that the Black Hawk is easily distinguishable from the Hind? See my previous reply on that egregious, baffling friendly fire incident. To this day, some family members of the some of the foreign passengers on the two Black Hawks claim the shootdown was intentional. They make all the same arguments you do about the alleged "impossibility" of failing to recognize the target as American.

It is worth repeating again that every reputable historian who has examined the USS Liberty incident has concluded it was a tragic case of friendly fire. Every U.S. Government investigation into the incident has reached the same conclusion.

For a trollboy who says 19 Muslims thst did 9/11 ignoring the mountains of evidence of witness testimonys of hearing explosives many being credible firefighters experienced in explosives,calling president ford a good man,Your the last person on the planet qualified to day total hogwash,everybody here is sick of hearing you toot your own horn,they don’t want to listen to an idiot who says 19 Muslims did 9/11.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

If you could even begin to show where anything I've both written and supported was "propaganda", you would have disproved it by now.

So far all I've done is debunk your unsupportable Zionist fables with salient sources.

Indeed. I wonder how much his handlers in Israel pay him to spam these forums.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I've already shown where the traitorous A. Jay Cristol has been exposed as a proven liar who can't even support his own lies:

$10,000 Challenge
https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/10000challenge.html


EXCERPT. ""The Liberty Veterans Association offers a $10,000 reward to anyone who can establish the truth of A. Jay Cristol's claim:

"After ten official US investigations (including five congressional investigations), there was never any evidence that the attack was made with knowledge that the target was a US ship." CONTINUED


Why are you still posting proven lies that I've already exposed unless that and the slander (i.e. "anti Semite" etc.) of a proven loser is all you've got?

Traiter mike gets his ass handed to him on a platter.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I'm third party Robert. I've known for decades there is no difference between the two parties. It is a Uniparty and long has been. I've been voting Libertarian for decades, and voted Green Party the last 2 times. I like the peace-seeking Jewess Jill Stein.

That said, I must admit that today's Democrat Party seems to have really gone off the deep end.

I’m afraid you are making far too much sense for Robert and Mike to comprehend.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

mikegriffith1

You are thoroughly indoctrinated, deeply in denial and ignorant of how the Zionists have operated for decades.

The understatement of the century.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The guys who survived the attack said they were unmarked. Who should I believe Mike? The survivors or some dude on the internet who makes a practice of believing what known liars say?

 

[Grau]

Indeed. I wonder how much his handlers in Israel pay him to spam these forums.

Well, I don't know about any single individual but there's no question that Israel's US funded Propaganda Ministry pays thousands of otherwise unemployable Zionist shills to recycle the same, old, Hasbara scripts, over and over.



“Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook”

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook”

EXCERPT “The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.

NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”

The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.

This active recruitment of Israeli students is part of Israel’s orchestrated effort to suppress the Palestinian solidarity movement under the guise of combating “delegitimization” of Israel and anti-Semitism.”CONTINUED

--------------------------------------------------------

There's a good reason that Wikipedia and similar MSM sources are infected with Zionist propagandists.


"Course: Zionist Editing on Wikipedia"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52LB2fYhoY


Thanks and keep up the good work...

 

[mikegriffith1]

Well, I don't know about any single individual but there's no question that Israel's US funded Propaganda Ministry pays thousands of otherwise unemployable Zionist shills to recycle the same, old, Hasbara scripts, over and over.

“Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook”

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook”

EXCERPT “The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.

NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”

The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.

This active recruitment of Israeli students is part of Israel’s orchestrated effort to suppress the Palestinian solidarity movement under the guise of combating “delegitimization” of Israel and anti-Semitism.”CONTINUED

--------------------------------------------------------

There's a good reason that Wikipedia and similar MSM sources are infected with Zionist propagandists.

"Course: Zionist Editing on Wikipedia"

Thanks and keep up the good work...

I'm glad you're posting this bigoted trash because it shows the kinds of fringe views held by most people who peddle the USS Liberty conspiracy theory. You, Dante, JoeB131, and a few others in this forum are sad examples of this.

I notice you don't object to Hamas's and Iran's efforts to spread anti-Semitic and/or anti-Israeli propaganda on American college campuses and Western social media platforms, but you're outraged that Israelis are making efforts to counter that propaganda.

 

[Grau]

"DOWN BY THE GOSSIP FENCE"

I'm glad you're posting this bigoted trash because it shows the kinds of fringe views held by most people who peddle the USS Liberty conspiracy theory. You, Dante, JoeB131, and a few others in this forum are sad examples of this.

I notice you don't object to Hamas's and Iran's efforts to spread anti-Semitic and/or anti-Israeli propaganda on American college campuses and Western social media platforms, but you're outraged that Israelis are making efforts to counter that propaganda.

Please tell me more about the "fringe" that is opposed to Zionist genocide to which you are deaf, dumb and blind:

- "The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"​

The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds

Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.

truthout.org

​

- "Poll: Support for Israel among Americans drops to lowest level in 25 years"

Poll: Support for Israel among Americans drops to lowest level in 25 years - UPI.com

Support for Israel has fallen to its lowest level in a quarter century, according to the latest Gallup poll released Thursday.

www.upi.com

EXCERPT. "March 6 (UPI) -- Support for Israel among Americans has fallen to its lowest level in a quarter century, according to the latest Gallup poll released Thursday." CONTINUED



- "One-third of American Jews agree Israel committed 'genocide' in Gaza: Poll"

"Over 51% of American Jews support Biden's decision to withhold arms shipments to Israel, survey finds"

One-third of American Jews agree Israel committed 'genocide' in Gaza: Poll

Over 51% of American Jews support Biden's decision to withhold arms shipments to Israel, survey finds - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

________________________________________________________________________


It seems like every time you launch into some snarky, dishonest and slanderous tantrum, it just takes 5 minutes to disprove anything you write.

I don't mean to make you look foolish but when you write dumb stuff about "fringe " elements I can't stop you.


Now, isn't it a good time to take out that inflatable Netanyahu sex doll for a little " Afternoon Delight" ?

Don't forget to wash that nasty thing or you'll get a terrible rash.

Remember, I'm just here to help...

 

[Doc7505]

What LBJ did during the Liberty incident is what Democrats do when they've screwed the pooch. Just as Obama and Hillary did during the Benghazi massacre. They folded and withdrew any assistance to the American's they sent into harm's way without the full knowledge or means of communications. They were all virtuallly sacrificed.

 

[Grau]

What LBJ did during the Liberty incident is what Democrats do when they've screwed the pooch. Just as Obama and Hillary did during the Benghazi massacre. They folded and withdrew any assistance to the American's they sent into harm's way without the full knowledge or means of communications. They were all virtuallly sacrificed.

It seems to me like the only thing that most Republicans and most Democrats agree on is their fawning obedience to AIPAC, ZOA and similar right wing Zionist lobbies.

No other country in the world could get away with such record breaking carnage and get free US bombs to drop on starving, wounded, burned and mutilated refugees .

Thanks,

 

[JoeB131]

I'm glad you're posting this bigoted trash because it shows the kinds of fringe views held by most people who peddle the USS Liberty conspiracy theory. You, Dante, JoeB131, and a few others in this forum are sad examples of this.

I notice you don't object to Hamas's and Iran's efforts to spread anti-Semitic and/or anti-Israeli propaganda on American college campuses and Western social media platforms, but you're outraged that Israelis are making efforts to counter that propaganda.

Axis Mikey, you really need to stop abusing terms.

The Arabs and Persians are also Semitic people, so saying "anti-Semite" is a bit silly when you take the position that the Zionists shouldn't be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

The Zionists are like abused children who have gotten big enough to beat up on someone else. It's not a good look.