USS Liberty

Now that I think about it, knowing just how corrupt our gov't can be and that LBJ was unprincipled and crooked, and what sinister acts they are capable of, that can be a factor in answering the question: "why were they told not to talk about it?"
If Biden's corruption could cause him & or part of his administration to protect Terrorist Hamas by peculiarly (demanding) telling Israel not to go into that Palestinian city/Rafah I believe it was, that even I suspected the heads of Hamas & commanders were hiding out in (because of that prevention made it a Capt Obvious moment he was protecting them due to being compromised via his kickback Iranian scandal=blackmail ).
So knowing how far corruption and compromised positions can make someone betray it's allies = it makes you wonder: were they silented because they were near Gaza doing something nefarious, supplies or ??? Cause why were they there if they weren't supposed to be and keep beeing there such a secret? That would make them order silence and not hold who they betrayed responsible. :dunno:
 
It seems to me like the only thing that most Republicans and most Democrats agree on is their fawning obedience to AIPAC, ZOA and similar right wing Zionist lobbies.

No other country in the world could get away with such record breaking carnage and get free US bombs to drop on starving, wounded, burned and mutilated refugees .

Thanks,
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So you think that this is something new?
Guernica Spain 1937, Chongqing China 1938, Warsaw Poland 1944,
Dresden Germany 1945, Tokyo Japan 1945.
Notice I did not include Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
Yes there were and are countries that have bombed "starving, wounded, burned and mutilated refugees".
Nothing new and it will happen again in the future.
 
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So you think that this is something new?
Guernica Spain 1937, Chongqing China 1938, Warsaw Poland 1944,
Dresden Germany 1945, Tokyo Japan 1945.
Notice I did not include Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
Yes there were and are countries that have bombed "starving, wounded, burned and mutilated refugees".
Nothing new and it will happen again in the future.


Of course I don't think that the current, US funded genocide in Gaza is anything new because it's possible to compose a list of atrocities pages long.

You left out one of the more extensive yet heavily censored atrocities:


"Stalin's Jews"

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"


https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED
 
Of course I don't think that the current, US funded genocide in Gaza is anything new. . . .
Yet another one of your repetitions of Hamas/ISIS/Hezbollah/Iranian/neo-Nazi propaganda about Israel's measured retaliatory attacks on Hamas in Gaza.

Strange that you never mention the hundreds of rocket attacks that Hamas launched against Israeli towns and cities before Hamas's barbaric October 7 attack on an Israeli music concert and nearby Israeli towns. It is also strange that you never mention Hamas's well-documented tactic of using fellow "Palestinians" as human shields when Israel responds to Hamas attacks.
 
Yet another one of your repetitions of Hamas/ISIS/Hezbollah/Iranian/neo-Nazi propaganda about Israel's measured retaliatory attacks on Hamas in Gaza.

Strange that you never mention the hundreds of rocket attacks that Hamas launched against Israeli towns and cities before Hamas's barbaric October 7 attack on an Israeli music concert and nearby Israeli towns. It is also strange that you never mention Hamas's well-documented tactic of using fellow "Palestinians" as human shields when Israel responds to Hamas attacks.

Here's a better question. If the Palestinians are so deranged, why the **** would the Zionists want to live next to them.

That seems, pretty stupid. Let's leave aside if they have a good reason for wanting to kill them. (You know, like stealing their land, desecrating their holy sites, bombing their schools and hospitals) Living next to someone who has expressed a desire to kill you is pretty dumb.
 
Here's a better question. If the Palestinians are so deranged, why the *&^%$% would the Zionists want to live next to them.

That seems, pretty stupid. Let's leave aside if they have a good reason for wanting to kill them. (You know, like stealing their land, desecrating their holy sites, bombing their schools and hospitals) Living next to someone who has expressed a desire to kill you is pretty dumb.
Behold more confused, embarrassing neo-Nazi/ISIS/Hamas drivel from one of our resident anti-Semites.

You and Grau make a grotesque team.

As a note for any newcomers, I should mention that you claim there would have been no wars in the Middle East since 1948 if the Jews had not established the state of Israel in 1948, that Jews control the U.S. Government, that Jews somehow prevented the Navy Court of Inquiry on the USS Liberty from recording or documenting evidence that Israel purposely attacked the Liberty, that Jews never pass up a chance to make money, and that Israel was "anxious" to give up the Sinai at the Camp David negotiations, among many other fringe claims.
 
Yet another one of your repetitions of Hamas/ISIS/Hezbollah/Iranian/neo-Nazi propaganda about Israel's measured retaliatory attacks on Hamas in Gaza.

Strange that you never mention the hundreds of rocket attacks that Hamas launched against Israeli towns and cities before Hamas's barbaric October 7 attack on an Israeli music concert and nearby Israeli towns. It is also strange that you never mention Hamas's well-documented tactic of using fellow "Palestinians" as human shields when Israel responds to Hamas attacks.


Why is it that every single comment you write fail in its attempt to whitewash Netanyahu's long planned Gaza genocide using the long expected "surprise" attack of 7 October 2023 as a justification for for the destruction of Gaza and its native Palestinian residents.

In your last comment, you stated that opposition to Israeli genocide only exists among "fringe" elements.

Since I disproved that falsehood by showing where a majority of Americans oppose the Gaza genocide,(5) I've heard nothing.

If you still think that anti genocide Americans are a "fringe" element, why don't you show something credible to support your claim before moving on to another easily debunked statement?

The following sources show how the long planned and well known "surprise" attack / uprising only occurred because certain members in the Israeli government wanted it to happen to have an excuse to exterminate the remainder of Palestine's native residents and steal what's left of their land.

IDF even joined in on the killing of Israelis (2) to increase the casualty outrage for propaganda value.

After all, it's not the first time that Zionists have been willing to sacrifice other Jews for "Greater Israel":

“If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”

Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

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(1). "New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance"

EXCERPT "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted paper targets.

In the video, the militants destroyed mock-ups of the wall’s concrete towers and a communications antenna, just as they would do for real on Oct. 7.

Adding to public outrage over the military’s apparent negligence, the Israeli media has reported that military officials dismissed warnings from female border spotters who warned that they were witnessing Hamas’ preparations for the attack. According to the media reports, the young women reported seeing Hamas drones and attempts to knock out Israeli border cameras in the months leading up to the attack." CONTINUED


(2). “Israeli forces accused of killing their own citizens under the 'Hannibal Directive' during October 7 chaos”

EXCERPT ”Hannibal at Erez, dispatch a Zik [attack drone]," came the command on October 7.

Those words, reported by Israeli newspaper Haaretz in July, confirm what many Israelis have feared since the Hamas attacks on October 7 in southern Israel.

Israeli forces have killed their own citizens.

Israeli authorities say more than 800 civilians and around 300 soldiers were killed on October 7.” CONTINUED


(3). “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East​

Update and Analysis. Palestine"


EXCERPT "On October 7, 2023, Hamas launched “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm.” which was led by its Military Chief Mohammed Deif. On that same day, Netanyahu confirmed a so-called “State of Readiness For War”. Israel has now (October 7, 2023) officially declared a new stage of its long war against the people of Palestine.
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Military operations are invariably planned well in advance (See Netanyahu’s January 2023 statement below). Was “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm” a “surprise attack” ?

U.S. intelligence say they weren’t aware of an impending Hamas attack.

Did Netanyahu and his vast military and intelligence apparatus (Mossad et al) have foreknowledge of the Hamas attack?

Was a carefully formulated Israeli plan to wage an all out war against Palestinians envisaged prior to the launching by Hamas of “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm”? This was not a failure of Israeli Intelligence, as conveyed by the media. Quite the opposite.

Evidence and testimonies suggest that the Netanyahu government had foreknowledge of the actions of Hamas. And “They Let it Happen”:

Following the Al Aqsa Storm Operation on October 7, Israel‘s defence minister described Palestinians as “human animals” and vowed to “act accordingly,” as fighter jets unleashed a massive bombing of the Gaza Strip” (Middle East Eye).

A complete blockade of the Gaza Strip was initiated on October 9, 2023 consisting in preventing and obstructing the importation of food, water, fuel, and essential commodities to 2.3 Million Palestinians. It’s an outright crime against humanity.
Was “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm” a “surprise attack”? Was it a false flag? CONTINUED



(4). "Israeli army to investigate moving of troops from Gaza border 2 days before Oct. 7 attack"

(5). "The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"
April 3, 2024

EXCERPT "New polling finds that the majority of the American public now say that they disapprove of Israel’s genocidal siege of Gaza. Approval of the assault has plummeted over the course of a few months as Israel slaughtered at least 33,000 Palestinians and continues its destruction of Gaza with impunity.

According to a Gallup survey conducted last month, 55 percent of Americans say that they disapprove of Israel’s “military action” in Gaza — up from a minority of 45 percent in a November Gallup poll." CONTINUED

 
As a note for any newcomers,

Hey, you Mormon Fuckhead, why don't you answer my simple question rather than just try to mischaracterize past statements I've made? That seems to be your go-to whenever I catch your weaselly ass in a stupid position.

If the Palestinians are out to kill you, why is it a good idea to live next to them? It's actually, you know, pretty stupid.

Let's leave aside if the Palestinians are justified in wanting to kill the Zionists. Of course, if someone invaded Utah, leveled Mormon Temples, and blew up little Mormons in the schools, I bet you'd be pretty beligerent at that point. But let's leave that aside and proceed on the premise that the Palestinians are being completely irrational.

Why is living next to them a good idea? It's about as dumb as that guy who lived in the Grizzly preserve, and then got eaten.

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And the winner of this year's Darwin Award is....
 
Either you think Joseph Smith was talking to God, or you know he wasn't.

No bigoty in recognizing the reality that the people who think he was talking to God are idiots, liars, and morons.
Answer my question, coward.
 
let me know when you can make an argument.
Otherwise, back to ignore you go, little fella.
Throwing around racial and religious slurs is not an "argument," dumbass.
 
15th post
Why would I want to start a thread.
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YOU wouldn't because it would reveal what an empty, whipped, mindless bigot you are. You have nothing to say, you just look for opportunities to throw around your bigoted slurs.
 
Behold more confused, embarrassing neo-Nazi/ISIS/Hamas drivel from one of our resident anti-Semites.

You and Grau make a grotesque team.

As a note for any newcomers, I should mention that you claim there would have been no wars in the Middle East since 1948 if the Jews had not established the state of Israel in 1948, that Jews control the U.S. Government, that Jews somehow prevented the Navy Court of Inquiry on the USS Liberty from recording or documenting evidence that Israel purposely attacked the Liberty, that Jews never pass up a chance to make money, and that Israel was "anxious" to give up the Sinai at the Camp David negotiations, among many other fringe claims.



I am no longer going to bother responding to your puerile, insulting and dishonest slander because you seem incapable of having an honest, fact based and mature discussion.

I've lost track of the times I've exposed your falsehoods and posed questions you desperately evade.

For example, just two questions that I know I've asked at least 6 times are:

1. How did the IDF "accidentally" strafe lowered life rafts for the Liberty's wounded all at close range?

2. How did an ethical Israeli pilot "accidentally" refuse to attack what he reported was an American ship and then get locked up?

If you continue to evade substantive discussion, we'll know that you're just here to slander others.

Please just answer 2 simple questions.





(1). "Commonly Asked Questions about the USS Liberty"
Prepared by the Independent Commission of Inquiry



EXCERPT "After the attack was thought to have ended, three life rafts were lowered into the water to rescue the most seriously wounded. The Israeli torpedo boats returned and machine-gunned these life rafts at close range."CONTINUED


(2). "Israeli Pilot Speaks Up"
https://www.wrmea.org/1993-june/the-assault-on-the-uss-liberty-still-covered-up-after-26-years.html

EXCERPT "Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."CONTINUED
 

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