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What justifies the USraeli alliance? I've recently analyzed several possible reasons and have found them lacking. What are your opinions?
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Common values? A fellow democracy, besieged by a common enemy? Because the bible says to? Any of those work for you?What justifies the USraeli alliance?
Common values? A fellow democracy, besieged by a common enemy? Because the bible says to? Any of those work for you?What justifies the USraeli alliance?
Neither does Israel.DEMOCRACY, eh? Funny, WE here in the US don't hold an ethnic standard to qualify for state based racist policies like israel does.
Again, other democracies like Poland and Greece have right of return laws. I don't see you hurling four letter words at them.Tell me, what US policy reflects the demographic posturing RIGHT OF RETURN?
He hasn't called for a purge. He simply wants Israeli arabs to swear loyalty to the state they live in. I don't think that's a lot to ask, considering that they have far more rights than their follow arabs in any other mideast state (Iraq excepted).How many LIEBERMANS, politicians who want an outright PURGE of non-jews, do we elect here in the US?
Laugh if you will, there are God-feariong Christians who support Israel for biblical reasons. Just because you don't doesn't make them autmoatically wrong."because the bible says so" Hey, good thinking making the gentile god JEWISH!
We expel Iranian diplomats all the time. Usually for activities like videotaping Wall street or the Battery tunnel. I do not excuse Israel spying on us, even though we do spy on them.Common Enemy? Last I recall ISRAEL has spied on the US more often, LATELY, than Iran or any of your usual scapegoats.
COMMON VALUES?
His quotes are a whole lot better than Hamas/Hizbullah/Iran/etc.Neither does Israel.
sure they do. How many pieces of evidence do you need to see? Lord fucking knows I could drown you with Lieberman quotes alone.
Oh, so that's why Jews move to Israel? Not because they believe it's their ancestral homeland or because the bible says to?
Again, other democracies like Poland and Greece have right of return laws. I don't see you hurling four letter words at them.
uh, POLES IMPORT OTHER POLES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO OFFSET NON-POLE POPULATIONS, eh? provide some evidence. I'm calling your bluff.
Oh, the horror!
He hasn't called for a purge. He simply wants Israeli arabs to swear loyalty to the state they live in. I don't think that's a lot to ask, considering that they have far more rights than their follow arabs in any other mideast state (Iraq excepted).
no, he wants them to swear loyalty to a JEWISH STATE of israel.
No, we're not required to. We do so out of choice. With countries that we share interests or values with.
Maybe you could tell us some other middle eastern country that we should ally with. I mean, does the US share values with Egypt or the Saudis?
NO one says we are required to ally ourselves with ANYONE from ANYWHERE.
I just got here. How do you know I'm a racist?And, again, we don't share your values, racist.
Israel treats arabs pretty good, actually.THE US would not treat jews like israel treats arabs.
Ah. So any Christian who supports Israel is like Jim Jones? Generalize much?
Laugh if you will, there are God-feariong Christians who support Israel for biblical reasons. Just because you don't doesn't make them autmoatically wrong.
Oh I'm well aware of that. I'm also well aware that it desn't take much for dogma junkies to rationalize violence in the name of. Hell, from Koresh to Jim Jones you aren't doing anything that other manipulating nutters haven't done in the past.
I would be happy to comment on this if I could understand it.and yes, when you rationalize racism there and villify it here you are automatically wrong. Read and good David Duke quotes lately, zionist?
I'm not a fan of Pollard. He got life, he should do life. End of story.
We expel Iranian diplomats all the time. Usually for activities like videotaping Wall street or the Battery tunnel. I do not excuse Israel spying on us, even though we do spy on them.
OF COURSE you dont. sure, dude. I BELIEVE YOU. I mean, you ONLY tried to pint a finger at iranian diplomats with a fucking camcorder as if it relieves the Pollards of israel!
WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO VALIDATE YOUR RACIST SHIT JUST BECAUSE YOU NEED A PANT LEG TO HIDE BEHIND WHEN ACTING LIKE A BRAVE KLANSMAN BEHIND THE MASK OF YOUR PROTECTOR WHILE CAST LEADING CIVILIAN POPULATIONS.
for christs fucking sake you'd defend a fucking lynching of an arab if you thought someone might criticize a jew.
IsraHell is a failed fascist state on life support from the US.
IsraHell is a failed fascist state on life support from the US.
Why call it Israhell? What makes it fascist? How has it failed? What life support is the US giving?
Why are you calling me Jew or Shlomo? Use the name I have given myself. A little respect would go a long way.His quotes are a whole lot better than Hamas/Hizbullah/Iran/etc.
thats your opinion from a position of being coddled by his statement, jew. HELL, let's all wonder what a deep southerner from 1964 might have thought about the quotes of David Duke! BETTER than the nation of ISLAM and those militant Blackl Panthers, right shlomo?
About 200,000 Israelis lives on settlements out of a population of about 7 million. So how many are going to Israel for the "free settlement land'? Less than 3%.
Oh, so that's why Jews move to Israel? Not because they believe it's their ancestral homeland or because the bible says to?
I'm sure all that free settlement land has a lot to do with it too.
America has Aryan roots? Because I know Israel has Jewish roots.Oh, the horror!
Indeed. AND, when you get around to swearing aliegence to an ARYAN STATE OF THE UNITED STATES then I guess you'll figure out my point.
Can you make your point without swearing?After all, how many JEWS signed the declaration of Independance? Wanna play "spot the jew" at any reference to the founding father conventions? Yet, you'd scream bloody fucking murder at having to pledge to an ARYAN AMERICA.... I wonder why you avoid this point...
Israel doesn't have a constitution, but yes, everyone there is equal under the law. Unlike any arab countries.No, we're not required to. We do so out of choice. With countries that we share interests or values with.
Isreal doesn't share our values. You see, WE HERE IN AMERICA extend total equality under our constitution to ALL ethnic citizenships. Can you say that about israel?
You kiss your mother with that mouth. Class act.I just got here. How do you know I'm a racist?
by evidence of the position you are arguing for. You re no better than niggermania or stormfront, really.
As I said above, everyone is equal under the law. No arabs are held as slaves or any other such indentured servitude.Israel treats arabs pretty good, actually.
HA! yea, we never heard any plantation masters say the same thing about his treatment of ******* on the field!
"pretty good" or EQUALLY?
Ah, great. More swearing.Ah. So any Christian who supports Israel is like Jim Jones? Generalize much?
you tell me, mr "arabs are terrorists and euro is going to regret allowing muslim populations", all about generalizing. Please, you are the fucking master.
The guy who refers to me as 'jew' is talking about concern for humanity?and yes, dogma junkies whose fiending for the second coming trumps their concern for humanity is equivilent to every jim jones type nutter who believed what they were told including the necessity of violence against any unwanted status.
Why, because I feel Israel has a right to exist?I would be happy to comment on this if I could understand it.
They are bolded and in red. Feel free to dodge, duck and play coy elsewhere, dude. It doesn't take a jew to see the carbon copy argument made by you and David Duke.
Again with the 'jew' business.I'm not a fan of Pollard. He got life, he should do life. End of story.
but it's NOT the end of the Pollard story, is it jew.
Minimal criticism? The guy got life and I agree with it. What more do you want?And we both know that your minimal criticism of a spying jew
The Iranians use diplomats as spies. They can't be arrested.About the Iranians obviously you have nothing to say.
What is to say? WHO WAS THE LAST IRANIAN SPY AMERICA FOUND PASSING INFO TO IRAN? By all means.. NAME HIM.
Perhaps you should figure out what an image of a non-racist israel looks like. the 2 state solution is dead and you can only kill arab civilians for so long before your little jewish hand gets spanked and you are FORCED to put equality before jewish racism. Bibi and Lieberman are your Hitler and Goebles. I look forward to the bed they create for themselves and the rest of zion.
No, I'm serious.are you fucking kidding me?
When has Israel asked us to attack anyone?When HASN:T israel tried to prompt the US into attacking iran while it hides behind an American pantleg?
An Israeli arab who votes and has arabs representing him in the Israeli parliament?Fascist? go ask an arab that question.
I wish I understood this paragraph. I'm sure it has something important to say.WE alreayd know how the killers of emmet till responded five minutes after the murder trial. It's a failure because it is, ironically, copying the same racist shit from the Nazi handbook when it comes to rationalizing a single ethnic dominance despite varied demographic populations.
How is that racism?Hell, how many articles do you need to see from the Jpost indicating nothing short of dick rigid GLEE at the very thought of a higher jewish birthrate than arabs birthrate? Thats racism, buddy.
You may not want to apply that label to zion but Im sure you'd spare no seconds screaming bloody fucking murder if white people in the US acted like a zionist in israel.
Ah. You have no intention of showing the least bit of respect. What are you, five years old?
Why are you calling me Jew or Shlomo? Use the name I have given myself. A little respect would go a long way.
Why are you avoiding my points after making every effort to generalize arabs? Are you being ironic again or just stupid? A little respect indeed.
The land doesn't belong to anyone. Most settlements are in the middle of a desert.
About 200,000 Israelis lives on settlements out of a population of about 7 million. So how many are going to Israel for the "free settlement land'? Less than 3%.
3% more than should be, again, canaanizing land that doesn't belong to them.
Yes, Israel, who controls less than 2 tenths of one percent of all the land in the middle east, is doing a massive 'land grab'.How many excuses are you going to have to make for jews landgrabbing arab land?
I haven't accused you of that. Guilty conscience?Clearly, reality is antisemetic when it comes to pointing out who is instigating what
Most Americans are Aryan? No, most Americans during the revolution were of British descent.America has Aryan roots? Because I know Israel has Jewish roots.
uh, what OTHER race signed any of our AMERICAN founding documents?
Why does it make a difference how many founding fathers were Jewish?Again, I'll play "spot the jew" in any pictorial of our founding fathers if you WANT to drive this pit home.. just say the word.
How juvenile. really.Can you make your point without swearing?
I could, but I choose not to.
Uh, no. Every Israeli citizen is equal under the law.
Israel doesn't have a constitution, but yes, everyone there is equal under the law. Unlike any arab countries.
You are flat out lying.
True. So what?The right of return is a state based policy that applies ONLY to jews.
One example of what?and that just ONE example!
Who have I killed? What are you babbling about?You kiss your mother with that mouth. Class act.
Do you hug your mother with your bloody hands? Tell me all about class, killer.
Arabs in Israel have all the same rights as Jews.
As I said above, everyone is equal under the law. No arabs are held as slaves or any other such indentured servitude.
One doesn't have to be a fucking SLAVE to be held seperate from the chosen ethnicity, stupid. Blacks in America were not slaves for 100 years until the fucking 60s. Do you think that made them EQUAL?
I don't see how my opinions have killed anybody.
Ah, great. More swearing.
The guy who refers to me as 'jew' is talking about concern for humanity?
Indeed, when my cursing kills as many as your zionism you go ahead and let me know.
He's entitled to his opinion, too.Why, because I feel Israel has a right to exist?
Oh, you mean like how DAVID DUKE feels that AMERICA should have a right to exist for the sake of ARYANS much like you do regarding jews in zion?
Oh, so now I have to answer up for every Jew whose opinion differs from mine?Minimal criticism? The guy got life and I agree with it. What more do you want?
Perhaps you should direct that question to the Jpost every time they run a story about why he is still in jail...
I would if I could.
The Iranians use diplomats as spies. They can't be arrested.
Like I said... POST YOUR FUCKING EVIDENCE. some aipac non-sequiter might sell at a bernie maddof prison vacation but...
Ah, this old canard.
And you'll tell me that your criticism is because of policy and not nationality?
yes. If israel were not hellbent on giving the choicest consideration to only jews then this wouldn't BE a fucking giant ME clusterfuck.
Israel does not have state-based racism. There are black Israelis and white Israelis and even a few asian Israelis.America learned it's lesson about state based racism in the civil rights era.
If you bothered to read the articles, you would know that no where does it say that "Israel asked the US to attack Iran".When has Israel asked us to attack anyone?
Israel Prodding U.S. To Attack Iran
White House Weighs Striking Iran's Nuclear Complex, Which Could Trigger 3rd War In Region
June 24, 2008
Israel Prodding U.S. To Attack Iran - CBS News
Report: U.S. rejected Israeli plea to attack Iran
Report: U.S. rejected Israeli plea to attack Iran - CNN.com
Report: Israel pressuring U.S. over Iran attack
Report: Israel pressuring U.S. over Iran attack - Israel News, Ynetnews
Token minorities? 16% of Israel is arab.An Israeli arab who votes and has arabs representing him in the Israeli parliament?
Token minorities don't invalidate a culture of double standards.
Lieberman is one person. And he is entitled to his opinions. He isn't advocating genocide like Hamas. He just doesn't want anyone in Israel who doesn't want to be in Israel.Again, if you want some Lieberman quotes just say the word, dude. I've got them ready for you and, as you can see above, I don't mind providing evidence AT ALL.
Who makes it us vs them? The 6 million Israeli Jews or the one billion Muslims?How is that racism?
how is it NOT racism? What is the fctor being focused on, jew? RACE. ETHNICITY. US VERSUS THEM.
Which is how exactly?
Ask David Duke.. He'll tell you all about it. Hell, you might even get some great tips to pass back to the mossad.