Are there any patriots left?

[MisterBeale]

George Orwell​

Notes on Nationalism​

George Orwell: Notes on Nationalism

Notes on Nationalism, the essay of George Orwell. First published: May 1945 by/in Polemic, GB, London

orwell.ru

 

[MisterBeale]

I have always loved America and am distraught by what the Democrats are doing - from Banana Republic tactics against Trump, to favoring illegals over citizens (even vets), to the refusal of leaders to condemn the calls on campus to genocide Jews, to caring more about biological but transgendered boys on girls‘ sports teams, to coddling criminals.

I pray that Trump can overcome the weaponization of the justice system against him and win the election - and we can begin the process of restoring border security, stop the protection of certain minorities while allowing Nazi-era chants against others, limit girls’ teams to real girls, crack down on criminals, and more.

From the link I posted above. . .

". . . Obsession. As nearly as possible, no nationalist ever thinks, talks, or writes about anything except the superiority of his own power unit. It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can relieve only by making some sharp retort. If the chosen unit is an actual country, such as Ireland or India, he will generally claim superiority for it not only in military power and political virtue, but in art, literature, sport, structure of the language, the physical beauty of the inhabitants, and perhaps even in climate, scenery and cooking. He will show great sensitiveness about such things as the correct display of flags, relative size of headlines and the order in which different countries are named(4). Nomenclature plays a very important part in nationalist thought. Countries which have won their independence or gone through a nationalist revolution usually change their names, and any country or other unit round which strong feelings revolve is likely to have several names, each of them carrying a different implication. The two sides of the Spanish Civil War had between them nine or ten names expressing different degrees of love and hatred. Some of these names (e. g. ‘Patriots’ for Franco-supporters, or ‘Loyalists’ for Government-supporters) were frankly question-begging, and there was no single one of the which the two rival factions could have agreed to use. All nationalists consider it a duty to spread their own language to the detriment of rival languages, and among English-speakers this struggle reappears in subtler forms as a struggle between dialects. Anglophobe-Americans will refuse to use a slang phrase if they know it to be of British origin, and the conflict between Latinizers and Germanizers often has nationalists motives behind it. Scottish nationalists insist on the superiority of Lowland Scots, and socialists whose nationalism takes the form of class hatred tirade against the B.B.C. accent and even the often gives the impression of being tinged by belief in symphatetic magic — a belief which probably comes out in the widespread custom of burning political enemies in effigy, or using pictures of them as targets in shooting galleries... . "

 

[Lisa558]

From the link I posted above. . .

". . . Obsession. As nearly as possible, no nationalist ever thinks, talks, or writes about anything except the superiority of his own power unit. It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can relieve only by making some sharp retort. If the chosen unit is an actual country, such as Ireland or India, he will generally claim superiority for it not only in military power and political virtue, but in art, literature, sport, structure of the language, the physical beauty of the inhabitants, and perhaps even in climate, scenery and cooking. He will show great sensitiveness about such things as the correct display of flags, relative size of headlines and the order in which different countries are named(4). Nomenclature plays a very important part in nationalist thought. Countries which have won their independence or gone through a nationalist revolution usually change their names, and any country or other unit round which strong feelings revolve is likely to have several names, each of them carrying a different implication. The two sides of the Spanish Civil War had between them nine or ten names expressing different degrees of love and hatred. Some of these names (e. g. ‘Patriots’ for Franco-supporters, or ‘Loyalists’ for Government-supporters) were frankly question-begging, and there was no single one of the which the two rival factions could have agreed to use. All nationalists consider it a duty to spread their own language to the detriment of rival languages, and among English-speakers this struggle reappears in subtler forms as a struggle between dialects. Anglophobe-Americans will refuse to use a slang phrase if they know it to be of British origin, and the conflict between Latinizers and Germanizers often has nationalists motives behind it. Scottish nationalists insist on the superiority of Lowland Scots, and socialists whose nationalism takes the form of class hatred tirade against the B.B.C. accent and even the often gives the impression of being tinged by belief in symphatetic magic — a belief which probably comes out in the widespread custom of burning political enemies in effigy, or using pictures of them as targets in shooting galleries... . "

What does all that have to do with what I wrote?

 

[Leo123]

I love my country, but hate it’s government. Am I a patriot or a traitor?

You sound like our Founders.

 

[Unkotare]

"Blood that has soaked into the sands of a beach is all of one color. America stands unique in the world: the only country not founded on race but on a way, an ideal. Not in spite of but because of our polyglot background, we have had all the strength in the world. That is the American way.'' ...And, yes, the ideal of liberty and justice for all -- that is still the American way."

- R.R.

 

[gipper]

What does all that have to do with what I wrote?

You’ll never understand.

 

[gipper]

"Blood that has soaked into the sands of a beach is all of one color. America stands unique in the world: the only country not founded on race but on a way, an ideal. Not in spite of but because of our polyglot background, we have had all the strength in the world. That is the American way.'' ...And, yes, the ideal of liberty and justice for all -- that is still the American way."

- R.R.

Still believing what he was told in fourth grade government school. Never advanced his thinking past fourth grade. Terrible shame and he’s teaching others!!! Good God!

 

[Unkotare]

Still believing what he was told in fourth grade government school. Never advanced his thinking past fourth grade. Terrible shame and he’s teaching others!!! Good God!

Yes, I still believe in America. Yes, I still teach my students what President Reagan said and what it means. Reagan had it right, and YOU are still just a wannabe nobody who doesn't deserve to take up space in my great nation.

 

[gipper]

Yes, I still believe in America. Yes, I still teach my students what President Reagan said and what it means. Reagan had it right, and YOU are still just a wannabe nobody who doesn't deserve to take up space in my great nation.

My mistake. You're stuck in second grade.

 

[Unkotare]

My mistake. You're stuck in second grade.

And YOU are too much of a coward to leave a country you clearly hate.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

There are always caveats. Unconditional love is admirable behavior for dogs, but not for humans.

^ America hating dick

 

[Dayton3]

36 years.

You must be one of the "Reagan whiners".

You must love @Giftedone then

 

[mamooth]

^ America hating dick

^^^
Commie cocksucker, and so very proud of it.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

^^^
Commie cocksucker, and so very proud of it.

^ projection