US womens soccer star declines to join US womens national team over pandering to homosexuals

[iceberg]

I turned on both the US Men’s team game versus Ireland and the New England Revolution game this weekend and was unsurprised to find rainbow colors on jerseys and other items before I shut the games off. Just as I did with the pink jerseys in MLB on Mother’s Day weekend.

So...do you not actually know what the pink jerseys were for, then?

i know what they're for. still tired of seeing them for a month during football season.

I'm sorry, but that was not addressed to you. Piss off.

damn . someone shoved a cucumber up their ass this am.

enjoy your salad for lunch.

 

[iceberg]

I dont think that cuts it for the girl who is the subject of this thread. What do you think ?

That's because you really aren't sorry if someone feels excluded ...
Which has been your purpose all along.

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Well she chose that path for herself. "Everybody is welcome" is obviously too extreme a position for some.

it can't be everyone if you hold standards of entry - such as supporting things you may not agree with. people keep painting the gay community as victimized and the rest should show support 24x7 or they hate them.

that simply is not true and i believe you know that too.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I dont think that cuts it for the girl who is the subject of this thread. What do you think ?

That's because you really aren't sorry if someone feels excluded ...
Which has been your purpose all along.

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Well she chose that path for herself. "Everybody is welcome" is obviously too extreme a position for some.

it can't be everyone if you hold standards of entry - such as supporting things you may not agree with. people keep painting the gay community as victimized and the rest should show support 24x7 or they hate them.

that simply is not true and i believe you know that too.

You only have to read this thread to see toxic attitudes towards gays.The football authorities are trying to rise above that. they should be congratulated for their efforts.

 

[BlackSand]

Well she chose that path for herself. "Everybody is welcome" is obviously too extreme a position for some.

You don't, and never have been welcoming everyone ... You are not only insecure, but have to lie about it ...

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[iceberg]

I dont think that cuts it for the girl who is the subject of this thread. What do you think ?

That's because you really aren't sorry if someone feels excluded ...
Which has been your purpose all along.

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Well she chose that path for herself. "Everybody is welcome" is obviously too extreme a position for some.

it can't be everyone if you hold standards of entry - such as supporting things you may not agree with. people keep painting the gay community as victimized and the rest should show support 24x7 or they hate them.

that simply is not true and i believe you know that too.

You only have to read this thread to see toxic attitudes towards gays.The football authorities are trying to rise above that. they should be congratulated for their efforts.

maybe it's just the reaction you are going to get if you keep forcing people to accept things they don't like or approve of. do you think some of that "toxic" attitude would die down if they quit saying WEAR MY GAY PRIDE SHIRT DAMMIT!!!?

just be you and deal with the good and bad that comes with it and stop forcing people to accept you when they likely already do, as you are. but accepting people doesn't mean i'm going to now advertise for you.

huge leap to go from one to the other and a bigger leap to call that lack of wanting to "advertize" *hate*.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I dont think that cuts it for the girl who is the subject of this thread. What do you think ?

That's because you really aren't sorry if someone feels excluded ...
Which has been your purpose all along.

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Well she chose that path for herself. "Everybody is welcome" is obviously too extreme a position for some.

it can't be everyone if you hold standards of entry - such as supporting things you may not agree with. people keep painting the gay community as victimized and the rest should show support 24x7 or they hate them.

that simply is not true and i believe you know that too.

You only have to read this thread to see toxic attitudes towards gays.The football authorities are trying to rise above that. they should be congratulated for their efforts.

maybe it's just the reaction you are going to get if you keep forcing people to accept things they don't like or approve of. do you think some of that "toxic" attitude would die down if they quit saying WEAR MY GAY PRIDE SHIRT DAMMIT!!!?

just be you and deal with the good and bad that comes with it and stop forcing people to accept you when they likely already do, as you are. but accepting people doesn't mean i'm going to now advertise for you.

huge leap to go from one to the other and a bigger leap to call that lack of wanting to "advertize" *hate*.

You are inventing extreme situations. A sport that has been hostile to certain people are trying to redress that. How does that harm anybody other than rabid bigots ?

 

[there4eyeM]

When are the Welsh going to start wearing English Pride shirts? Where will childish attention getting take us? What is wrong with the simple apology mentioned previously, one with which no one would disagree or feel wearing were a problem?

 

[iceberg]

That's because you really aren't sorry if someone feels excluded ...
Which has been your purpose all along.

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Well she chose that path for herself. "Everybody is welcome" is obviously too extreme a position for some.

it can't be everyone if you hold standards of entry - such as supporting things you may not agree with. people keep painting the gay community as victimized and the rest should show support 24x7 or they hate them.

that simply is not true and i believe you know that too.

You only have to read this thread to see toxic attitudes towards gays.The football authorities are trying to rise above that. they should be congratulated for their efforts.

maybe it's just the reaction you are going to get if you keep forcing people to accept things they don't like or approve of. do you think some of that "toxic" attitude would die down if they quit saying WEAR MY GAY PRIDE SHIRT DAMMIT!!!?

just be you and deal with the good and bad that comes with it and stop forcing people to accept you when they likely already do, as you are. but accepting people doesn't mean i'm going to now advertise for you.

huge leap to go from one to the other and a bigger leap to call that lack of wanting to "advertize" *hate*.

You are inventing extreme situations. A sport that has been hostile to certain people are trying to redress that. How does that harm anybody other than rabid bigots ?

1 person simply does not wish to wear that shirt. look what you and "the left" are making of that.

i can PROMISE YOU no one on the left did jack nor shit to help conservatives speak on "liberal" campuses that are "traditionally hostile" to people who think differently than they do.

as you said above - no one was left to speak for me.

so unless you spoke out against anti-fa and anyone else stopping conservatives from speaking out, you spoke your words for your side only, not all. clever and stuff. but not very effective when you call out to all to help when you don't answer that call when it's someone else.

 

[BlackSand]

You are inventing extreme situations. A sport that has been hostile to certain people are trying to redress that. How does that harm anybody other than rabid bigots ?

You're the bigot ... You tell me ...

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[Anathema]

So...do you not actually know what the pink jerseys were for, then?

I had assumed mother’s day, but I’m guessing you’re gonna tell me it’s breast cancer awareness like the NFL does each year. Either way, not something I care to have thrown in my face while watching a baseball game.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The rainbow flag includes everybody. So those examples you gave are already welcome.

You have to be as thick as shit not to support "football is for everyone".

the rainbow colors are specific to the gay community and "rainbow" pride. trying to claim it as "gay flag colors" *AND* universal in inclusion doesn't work.

jesus on the cross died for all of us - *ALL OF US* - so we can just put a crucifix on there and it will include everyone, including gays, ok?

Go back and take "Symbolism 101" again. How else would a symbol representing ALL of us be represented in a flag or some other insignia?
Your specific religion has absolutely nothing to do with this. There are some adherents to some religious doctrines who choose to pretty much drop out of American society, like the Amish. If you want to pursue such a lifestyle, what's stopping you?

We are "dealing with it." You're insistence that prejudice be swept under the rug is appalling. A person who plays on the U.S. Team represents us all as a nation. The UK is united behind Team UK. It is England. As an American, I would not want want my country represented in international competition by anyone who cannot proudly represent all of our people on the international stage.

Actually we are all behind Wales and we also support whoever England are playing. As good neighbours we always want England to lose . There will never be a Team UK. But your point is corrrect. The team represents the whole nation and everybody should get behind them.

Having a homophobe in the team could be a problem for gay team members. It doesnt build team spirit.

This is the actual Welsh team celebrating Englands humiliation against Iceland. It was a great night.

THANK YOU for your most informative comment. I just have been learning about football in the UK, courtesy of of a friend here who got me addicted to UK television and I went back and got Dream Team out of the YouTube bucket. In this series, Ryan Naysmith was always carted about to being a likely suspect to be selected to play for "England." It gave me the impression that players arose from all the separate territories of the UK and then formed one "England" team against the rest of the countries. In Dream Team, there were many references to Harchester going back to Cardiff. Across the pond, this is confusing. Later, I will figure out what the hell cricket is all about, as well as your "A-levels." Cheers!

Its complex and tied up with a lot of baggage. We dont really hate the English. We live and work together. But wanting England to succeed at anything is a bridge too far.

As an example the Anglo centric press always refer to Andy Murray as the top British tennis player. Until he gets beaten and then he becomes scottish. It pisses people off.

Or how "we're better together" when it comes to the UK, and better off separate with their own sovereignty when it comes to the EU......

Congratulations on your Big Win

I didn't know that you're Welsh. Sorry. I always had a vision of you sitting in London, typing. I'm learning more each day. I didn't know that there such friction between England, Wales, Scotland, and No. Ireland. I just knew that the Scots were pretty independent. I read the BBC online, which has the news in geographic sections. It's interesting.

Now that I know that you are Welsh, can I please buy a vowel? Every time I see a sign from Wales, I am absolutely flummoxed. Long words with seemingly no vowels except "y". I always figured that the city of Bala Cynwyd in Pennsylvania was Welsh, and found that interesting.

I'm also trying to figure out Irish. All of my great-grandparents on my father's side left Ireland in the mid-1800s and landed in New York. I wish I could speak the language. The bi-lingual road signs left me wondering how anything could possibly be pronounced. How can one get "Shawn" out of "Sean"? I found a tutorial on YouTube about Irish rules of pronunciation and it was fascinating. Totally different from the sounds represented by letters in English. I might have call to speak it if the complete assholes now in charge of the U.S. Government continue as they have and I have to flee to Ireland.

Forgive me. I'm just sitting around watching the sun rise on Northern Virginia and listening to the birds, wondering what they've got to say, and running my mouth.

THANK YOU for sticking up for LGBTs. I'm not LGBT, and I'm not Jewish, either, but:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are one good guy!

I think you're talking to Tommy, right? Seeing as he's the Welsh guy.

 

[Tresha91203]

You miss the point in spectacular style. They want to show that the game is open and inclusive. Everybody is welcome.

Obviously some are uncomfortable with this but you will never please everybody. The football associations have a responsibility to promote the game to everybody in their countries. Gays are under- represented in football because historically they have not been made welcome. Probably by primitives like yourself and the other characters on this thread.

Its a good thing Morally and ethically it is a good thing.

To the contrary ... The game is open and inclusive.

It is your discomfort that requires special treatment ... Not the game of soccer ... Deal with it.
Your garbage about who is or isn't underrepresented has nothing to do with whether or not someone is good at playing soccer ... Deal with it.
If your delusional enlightenment is subject to your misguided nonsense ... Then you can keep your nefarious garbage.

Soccer does not need you to be gay nor straight to play the game ... And we don't need your stupid tag-along bullshit ...

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We are "dealing with it." You're insistence that prejudice be swept under the rug is appalling. A person who plays on the U.S. Team represents us all as a nation. The UK is united behind Team UK. It is England. As an American, I would not want want my country represented in international competition by anyone who cannot proudly represent all of our people on the international stage.

And, with no special logos, no one is excluded. With no special logos, everyone is included. Not wearing a special logo is not the same as excluding the group the special logo identifies, it is simply not wearing the special logo. Not wearing a "Coke" ad does not mean, "don't drink Coke".
What wearing the special logo is aimed at is excluding people who are upset by the special logo. Whatever else that may be, it is not 'inclusive' and it is not educational.

But how does the sport attract people who have been excluded in the past ?
The football culture has been historically anti gay, and anti women for that matter.
How do you get across the message that things have changed ?

You seem to be a fairly nice person, so we will assume this question is not facetious, despite the glaringly clear answer. How about this message: "We're sorry if anyone felt excluded before, but we've learned our lesson and everyone is invited to join in. Racist and other prejudices have been overcome. Thanks, and enjoy the game!"

More ideas: an ad campaign; athletes stating in interviews that they welcome good players, be they gay or straight, black or white, male or female; prosecuting violence and harassment against minorities.

 

[Jarlaxle]

So...do you not actually know what the pink jerseys were for, then?

I had assumed mother’s day, but I’m guessing you’re gonna tell me it’s breast cancer awareness like the NFL does each year. Either way, not something I care to have thrown in my face while watching a baseball game.

Both, actually.

 

[flewism]

I see no evidence that Jaelene Hinkle has any regrets and is totally at peace with her decision made in December of 2017 to turn down her invitation to play for the 2018 USWNT. It was only in a interview on the 700 club a Christian TV show 6 days ago that members of the LGTBQ segment of society went on their witch hunt, to crucify this woman in social media. Where there is smoke pouring from the heads of the self-perceived victims of this event, aka a black female soccer star declining an invitation to play for the USWNT, because she doesn't agree with what a jersey represents, the media will fan that smoke into flames to create interest and profits.

Good day for all,
Media create profits,
LGTBQ segment of society have a new target to hate on.
Jaelene Hinkle, now a lot more people know who she is.