Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[Harpy Eagle]

Are they laws, or just bureaucratic nonsense?

Mostly laws.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Of course I do. I have been arguing that no rules apply to them like we are told about the CIC

In this situation, no rules applied to the alphabet asshats. And you KNOW tipping off CNN ahead of time makes this nothing but a photo op and abuse of power.

You know what happens the next time a GOP CIC is in charge? Jimmy Carter and Obama will be perp-walked twice a week.

 

[Esdraelon]

Yes, the CIC has the final Classification Authority. That does not change what happens after a document is declassified. Unless the CIC changes those rules as well. If you can show us where Trump changed those rules I would be happy to read them.

Wut?
According to one of his staffers, Patel, he followed a policy of declaring everything he took from the premises, declassified, as was his right. If you are saying show the documentation that proves this, no one seems to know if there IS any set protocol for that. Do you support charging the man with spying for a foreign government because he has some formerly TS classified docs in his possession?

If they were coming after him over a violation related to NARA, it would be a first in our history but they are going for the whole smash. We all know what this is about and they will torture the truth until they can convict him of something that's actually a non-event for a Dem in the same situation and on top of that they'll claim he's DQd from running. Well, it isn't going to stop him from running so what is their ultimate goal? I believe they are setting the stage for refusing to accept his legitimacy when he wins in '24.

They're literally like a bunch of spoiled children who trash the place if they don't get their way. The rest of America is about fed the hell up with their nonsense.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

They are not doing my bidding. I have been fighting the IRS for going on two years now. Not sure what it is you think you are saying

You seem to be happy that 87,000 new armed brown shirts will be marching around abusing us all faster than before.

 

[GWV5903]

Unsealed Search Warrant with receipt of items taken shows Trump had:
Top Secret Classified Documents
Confidential Classified Documents
Miscellaneous Secret Documents

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/read-the-unsealed-trump-search-warrant.html

You can line up Obama, Bush, Clinton and Carter with the same claim, just admit it, you want a communist state…

 

[theHawk]

Trump is claiming that when he took documents they were automatically declassified. Could you die laughing?

Automatic declassification is a thing. For example when documents reach 25 years old they are declassified within the DoJ.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In this situation, no rules applied to the alphabet asshats. And you KNOW tipping off CNN ahead of time makes this nothing but a photo op and abuse of power.

They followed the rules, like them or not. The went through the proper procedure to obtain a warrant.

If they tipped of CNN ahead of time why was the search going on for more than 5 or 6 hours before anyone found out about it?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Automatic declassification is a thing. For example when documents reach 25 years old they are declassified within the DoJ.

Not all documents fall under that 25 year rule

 

[theHawk]

Where is the paper trail then?

Again, why is it up to me to prove wrong your imagined crimes?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You seem to be happy that 87,000 new armed brown shirts will be marching around abusing us all faster than before.

Your reading comprehension has failed you a lot lately.

 

[theHawk]

Not all documents fall under that 25 year rule

I didn’t say they did. I merely pointed out an example of automatic declassification, because that idiot seems to think it’s fictional.

 

[surada]

Automatic declassification is a thing. For example when documents reach 25 years old they are declassified within the DoJ.

Lolol it hasn't been 25 years, Hawk.

 

[Lesh]

yes there is.

Confidential
Secret
Top Secret

And the Top Secret class has SCI s well. Compartmented...which means only a few people can even see it on a need to know basis.

Some of these docs (presumably national security docs) were those

 

[surada]

They followed the rules, like them or not. The went through the proper procedure to obtain a warrant.

If they tipped of CNN ahead of time why was the search going on for more than 5 or 6 hours before anyone found out about it?

It's a bald faced lie... Trump announced the raid.

 

[Nostra]

Freshly planted by our illustrious FBI.

Only a moron would buy anything the corrupt FBI is selling.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

hilary first,,, if not she sets the precedent its not an enforceable law

This fails as a red herring fallacy.

The thread is about Trump’s criminality, not Clinton.

 

[Nostra]

And the Top Secret class has SCI s well. Compartmented...which means only a few people can even see it on a need to know basis.

Some of these docs (presumably national security docs) were those

HItlery had SAP info on her home-brew, unsecure server.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

According to one of his staffers, Patel, he followed a policy of declaring everything he took from the premises, declassified, as was his right. If you are saying show the documentation that proves this, no one seems to know if there IS any set protocol for that.

But there has to be some sort of protocol. There has to be a way to know what was declassified.

If he took a box of classified materials from the premises, without even knowing what all was in the box, how would anyone know what is no longer classified? Almost every classified document has more than one copy, you cannot declassify one copy and not the rest

Can you truly not see the problem with the POTUS going "that box is now declassified" without at least an inventory of what is in the box? Without anyone else but the POTUS knowing they are no longer classified? That becomes the ultimate get out of jail free card.

Do you support charging the man with spying for a foreign government because he has some formerly TS classified docs in his possession?

I have not supported charging him with anything.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I am afraid that declassifying Top Secret information involves much more than lifting a finger

It has nationwide ramifications

Again, even if the documents were de-classified, information concerning national defense must still be kept in a secure location – failing to do so is a crime.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It's a bald faced lie... Trump announced the raid.

And it seems only after a blogger in Florida did so. Trump knew it was going going for more than half the day before he said anything about it