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That has nothing to do with what I posted.
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That has nothing to do with what I posted.
That is an entirely different topic than the invasion of Ukraine.It Trump's failure to persuade Putin not to violate the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty shows clearly that Putin had no fear of or respect for Trump, so there is no reason to think that if Trump had had a second term Putin would not have invaded.
We think we vote into office the people who rule, us but many are just puppets for the real masters..
That's the whole thing about puppets.
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In other words, you don't know what the INF treaty was. It had nothing to do with China. The INF treaty spelled out how close nuclear missiles could be placed to NATO or Russia to avoid a new nuclear competition in Europe. Putin began replacing short range missiles, which were allowed closer to NATO, with intermediate range missiles and Trump tried very hard to stop him, but Putin completely ignored Trump's objections until finally Trump withdrew the US from the INF treaty, making the world a much more dangerous place.That is an entirely different topic than the invasion of Ukraine.
Keep in mind China is not part of that treaty and is creating nuclear weapons at a fast pace. Both the USA and Russia might actually want to start making more new nuclear weapons to offset the future China stockpile. It takes a while to ramp up production.
Report: China may have 700 nukes by 2027, had feared war with U.S. in 2020
A new Pentagon report also says then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper directed Gen. Mark Milley to make a controversial call to a Chinese general prior to the U.S. election.www.nbcnews.com
Report: China may have 700 nukes by 2027, had feared war with U.S. in 2020
A new Pentagon report also says then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper directed Gen. Mark Milley to make a controversial call to a Chinese general prior to the U.S. election.www.nbcnews.com
Since China is not in the treaty they can make as many nukes as they want. That means both Russia and the U.S. will want to start production now rather than wait until China has more nukes than both Russia and the U.S. combined. Note that Russia has not always been friends with China in modern history.In other words, you don't know what the INF treaty was. It had nothing to do with China. The INF treaty spelled out how close nuclear missiles could be placed to NATO or Russia to avoid a new nuclear competition in Europe. Putin began replacing short range missiles, which were allowed closer to NATO, with intermediate range missiles and Trump tried very hard to stop him, but Putin completely ignored Trump's objections until finally Trump withdrew the US from the INF treaty, making the world a much more dangerous place.
Trump can claim credit for trying to persuade Putin to stop violating the treaty, but the fact is that despite his claims of having such a good relationship with Putin, Trump completely failed to persuade Putin to even consider ending his violations of the treaty.
I understand that you want to believe Trump can ride in to the rescue, but he clearly failed to persuade Putin not to violate the INF treaty and there is no evidence that Putin ever paid any attention to him when he was president.Since China is not in the treaty they can make as many nukes as they want. That means both Russia and the U.S. will want to start production now rather than wait until China has more nukes than both Russia and the U.S. combined. Note that Russia has not always been friends with China in modern history.
If our nuclear weapons and launching sites are getting old imagine the condition of the Russian nuclear arsenal.
In my opinion China is definitely part of the reason the INF treaty is gone.
Another factor is Russia is developing new nuclear weapons. Notice how Putin has been threatening nuclear war.Some say Putin is very ill and has turned a little insane.
Here's What We Know: Russia's New Generation Of Nuclear-Capable Weapons
Russia announced major military weapon breakthroughs in 2018. In fact, Russian President Vladimir Putin says the world has nothing like them. Is he right?www.rferl.org
Russia Just Threatened To Destroy Ireland And Britain With A Nuclear Tsunami
British support for Ukraine could trigger nuclear war, Russia warns.www.forbes.com
The Russian People May Be Starting to Think Putin Is Insane
Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/GettyThere is a lot of talk in the West about Russian President Vladimir Putin being mentally unhinged. How could he not have known that his invasion of Ukraine would have serious consequences for his country? Or is he so obsessed with...news.yahoo.com
I am not sure that Trump can save the day in Ukraine but perhaps he can prevent a nuclear WWIII. Plus he might save some tax payer dollars by not sending it to one of the most corrupt nations in Europe. He might also insist that European nations should get more involved.I understand that you want to believe Trump can ride in to the rescue, but he clearly failed to persuade Putin not to violate the INF treaty and there is no evidence that Putin ever paid any attention to him when he was president.
Since Trump had no success dealing with Putin, Zelensky or the Europeans as President, and since the world moved a tiny bit closer to WWIII with the end of the INF during his term as President, I fail to see why you think he would have more success if he became President again.I am not sure that Trump can save the day in Ukraine but perhaps he can prevent a nuclear WWIII. Plus he might save some tax payer dollars by not sending it to one of the most corrupt nations in Europe. He might also insist that European nations should get more involved.
We are sending billions of dollars to Ukraine with little idea where it is going.
US has spent billions on Ukraine war aid. But is that money landing in corrupt pockets?
A special inspector general and House Republicans have called for more oversight of the more than $100 billion in aid sent to Ukraine.www.usatoday.com
Irish fury after Russian threat to destroy Britain wipes out Ireland
Ireland is not mentioned at all in Dmitry Kiselyov's threat but the graphic shows the country being completely engulfed by the tidal wave before it even hits England's shores.www.dailymail.co.uk
Since Trump had no success dealing with Putin, Zelensky or the Europeans as President
He did call the Europeans out for not living up to their NATO obligation to spend at least 2% of their GDP on defense, but so had Obama, and the Europeans paid no attention to either and only increased their spending after the Russian invasion.Yeah.
The President who convinced our NATO allies to pay their fair share, was the arbiter of peace when violence threatened to break out in Bosnia again, prevented Russian aggression (unlike Biden), and advised the Germans not to rely on Russian energy had "no success dealing with Putin and Europe".
He also had the goods on the current "Pres" and his idiot junkie son, what with their corruption pertaining to Burisma. And Zelensky was all too happy to accommodate Trump on that perfect phone call. So you losers impeached him for it. (And then failed to get a conviction.)
You can respond with any hackneyed pablum ya likes, you're clearly an imbecilic partisan dipshit.
Don't worry, I won't waste too much time on you.
I doubt anyone does.
He did call the Europeans out for not living up to their NATO obligation to spend at least 2% of their GDP on defense, but so had Obama, and the Europeans paid no attention to either and only increased their spending after the Russian invasion.
...nearly all 29 NATO members have increased their defense spending since Trump came to office
What is clear is that Trump had no success dealing with Putin, Zelensky or the Europeans and he seems to have no idea what he would to keep his promise to end the war in 24 hours. With respect to the war in Ukraine and relations with the Europeans, Trump is campaigning on a solid record of failure while claiming spectacular success. Cleary, his book should be retitled, The Art of the Scam.
Where are the voices calling both sides to the peace table?
You need to adjust your hearing aid because we just had a peace conference in Jeddah in which the principles for a just and fair peace were discussed. This is the second such conference and a third will occur in about a month and a summit at the end of the year. You must just be listening to Russian media:I find it interesting that in this conflict all we hear are voices demanding more military conflict. Where are the voices calling both sides to the peace table? One would think that American liberals, at the very least, would be agitating for peace, but they're as bloodthirsty as anyone else. Before this becomes Quid Pro Joe's Viet Nam, we need to stop, not escalate, the conflict.
I understand you are upset to learn that Trump failed at so many things he claimed success for, but if you had double checked his extravagant claims this would not have come as a surprise to you.Wrong.
Here's How NATO Has Actually Increased Spending
President Trump has long said that the U.S. is carrying too much of the burden when it comes to paying for the defense of NATO members.www.newsweek.com
This paragraph brought nothing new to bear, and ignored the rest of my entire post.
"It's true because it's true".
You suck at this.
That explains why the American left is beating the war drums.Trump.
The next question then becomes why the American media is far more interested in war then it is in peace.You need to adjust your hearing aid because we just had a peace conference in Jeddah in which the principles for a just and fair peace were discussed. This is the second such conference and a third will occur in about a month and a summit at the end of the year. You must just be listening to Russian media:
Russia rejects peace agreement, insisting its war in Ukraine will rage on 'for the foreseeable future'
Russia rejects peace agreement, insisting its war in Ukraine will rage on 'for the foreseeable future'
"There are currently no grounds for an agreement," Kremlin spokesperson Dmitri Peskov said of Russia's war in Ukraine.www.businessinsider.com
Because war is more exciting, present, and peace is about the future, and at this point about diplomats talking. Which will bring in more readers/viewer and advertising dollars?The next question then becomes why the American media is far more interested in war then it is in peace.
I understand you are upset to learn that Trump failed at so many things he claimed success for, but if you had double checked his extravagant claims this would not have come as a surprise to you.