U.S. Marines To Investigate Video of Soldiers Urinating on Corpses

[IndependntLogic]

Do you even know what they are?



Geneva Conventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And........fwiw...........since I came on active duty in 1982, until I retired in 2002, I had ANNUAL briefings (usually 2-3 days) on both the Code of Conduct for the military (like I said, locally made by the U.S.) as well as briefings on the Geneva Conventions, which the Code of Conduct follows.

Might wanna read up on some of this stuff and why the rules are in place before spewing bullshit.

I have studied more law than you will ever see in your lifetime.

If you are such a big bad ass, then why don't you reinlist. You claim active duty. You do not claim any combat experience. Let me guess. You don't have any! How easy was that, now!

Actually, I can't reenlist because I have an RE-2 code on my DD214, which means that I'M ******* RETIRED YOU DUMB *****.

As far as war service? Not that I have to tell you but I was in Beruit in 1983, 1984 and 1985........you remember what it was like then?

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The Green Line that separated west and east Beirut, 1982
After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire following World War I, Beirut, along with the rest of Lebanon, was placed under the French Mandate. After Lebanon achieved independence in 1943, Beirut became its capital city. The city remained a regional intellectual capital, becoming a major tourist destination and a banking haven, especially for the Persian Gulf Oil Boom. This era of relative prosperity ended in 1975 when the Lebanese Civil War broke out throughout the country.[37][38] During most of the war, Beirut was divided between a Muslim west part and the Christian east.[39] The downtown area, previously the home of much of the city's commercial and cultural activities, became a no man's land known as the "Green Line." Many inhabitants fled to other countries. About 60,000 people died in the first two years of the war (1975–1976), and much of the city was devastated. One particularly destructive period was the 1978 Syrian siege against Achrafiyeh, the main Christian district of Beirut. Syrian troops relentlessly bombed the eastern quarter of the city; however, Christian militias managed to counter and defeat multiple attempts by Syria's elite forces to capture the strategic area in a three-month campaign later known as the "100 days war". Another destructive chapter was the 1982 Israeli invasion, during which most of West Beirut was under siege by Israeli troops. In 1983, French and US barracks were bombed, killing 241 American servicemen, 58 French servicemen, 6 civilians and the 2 suicide bombers.[40][41][42]

Beirut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was also part of Desert Storm, pts 1 and 2, as well as was floating in a combat zone around Kosovo in the late 90's, and yes, I've been under artillery fire.

Oh.........and by the way.........I've also been awarded 3 Navy Achievement Medals, all of them signed by Admirals.

Go **** yourself Sunshine.

Not to get between the love affair here but I just wanted to thank you for your service.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Like I tell everyone, serving for 20 years in the military was a privledge and fun. Where else could you get the government to send you to 26 different countries and 49 different States (only missing Alaska)?

Best part? I've been places and seen things that lots of people here in the States can only read about. I've been to the place in Rhodes where the Colossus once stood, walked around a castle built in the year 1000, as well as have been in an INCREDIBLE church in Palma Mallorca Spain.

Best part of my entire career? Being selected to serve independent duty tours back to back, one onboard an MSC vessel, followed up by running the MEPS here in Amarillo.

And no..........there's no love lost between me and Sunshine, just wish the stupid ***** would read the entire post prior to calling someone a liar.

Just more partisan hackery on her part.

 

[logical4u]

Yep.... they NEVER do that do they?

You asshole... tell that to this guy!


**** YOU Cowpunk

Comic Sans? What a joke.

And do you not think I know that they do those things? Why else would you think I'm saying that you're just like them? You don't mind if our soldiers did those things, so why would you mind them doing it too?

Not much of a difference between your mentality and theirs, except you're on the winning side. So at least have peace with that, my friend.

We are on the winning side? Is that because we have been "nation building"? Assisting in natural disaster in their part of the world? Have they stopped killing "westerners"? Are they reforming islam to eliminate Shariah (a sytem of deceit, destruction, and death)? Please explain to us how islam is on the decline, so we can all feel safer.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Like I said Stupid Fucker Called Ollie, you support troops breaking the Geneva Conventions and the Code of Conduct.

Good to know that such a great NCO such as yourself supports breaking international as well as military rules.

Sergeant First Class to you fuckface..........

Oh, you're still in? And Biker's still in?

It's a title. a legal title which I have earned and Use. You have a problem with that?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Gaybiker, when I want shit from you I'll ring your bell.

I am still against repealing DADT (Did you know at least one state is attempting to overturn that for their National Guard?)

And I am following the rules, first thing i said was to give these troops extra duty. Not my fault that the enemy we are fighting does much worse than this to our troops and gets a pass from you ***** *****.............

Like I said Stupid Fucker Called Ollie, you support troops breaking the Geneva Conventions and the Code of Conduct.

Good to know that such a great NCO such as yourself supports breaking international as well as military rules.

Sergeant First Class to you fuckface..........

No.......to me you're a Stupid Fucker Called Ollie because you support breaking both regular military law, as well as international law.

Glad I never had to take a Code of Conduct class from your stupid lawbreaking ass.

 

[The Gadfly]

I've seen what you've seen and worse. Oh and if I gave the impression that I don't think these guys should be disciplined, let me correct that. They should. What I think is sad, is that it probably will be WAY disproportionate to the offense because this thing has become a PR and policital clusterfck.

Precisely the point several of us have been trying to make throughout this thread! I'm not suggesting letting these guys entirely off the hook. I'm fine with a Summary Court on this! What I DON'T want to see, is these men going before a GCM and getting brig time and a BCD; that would be over the top. One more time, we are NOT talking murder or torture here. There are reasons why the UCMJ has other options for discipline; some of you, including some who SHOULD know better, seem to think any public breach of regulations deserves to be recommended for an Article 32 investigation; horseshit! It's the Uniform Code of Military JUSTICE, NOT the Uniform Code of Military CRUCIFIXION, for God's sake! I'm not pulling out the PTSD card here either; those of you who think that a good troop cannot become temporarily unhinged and do something off the wall after a firefight have never seen much ground combat. IT CAN happen, and it DOES happen. Is it desirable? NO. Is it a good thing? Absolutely NOT. Normally, an officer or senior NCO is present to tell the offending parties to knock it off, NOW, and that's the end of it. That didn't happen in this case, and now we have this mess.

I'm going to respectfully disagree with our good friend Ollie here; I DO NOT advocate pinning any medals on these Marines. I want that slap on the wrist to sting, enough so that they and everyone else understands that this was stupid, and NOT a good idea. That's enough. A General Court on this is like using a sledgehammer to swat a fly; it's overkill, and it tears up the furniture and walls in the house up more than just leaving the fly alone would; that's why they make flyswatters. It's also why the UCMJ provides for non-judicial punishment.

Those of you who want to be so hardass on this, let me ask you something; if one of those boys were YOUR kid, and I were his commanding officer, would you want me to throw him under the bus, or treat him fairly and with some degree of compassion and regard for the circumstances?

 

[ABikerSailor]

I've seen what you've seen and worse. Oh and if I gave the impression that I don't think these guys should be disciplined, let me correct that. They should. What I think is sad, is that it probably will be WAY disproportionate to the offense because this thing has become a PR and policital clusterfck.

Precisely the point several of us have been trying to make throughout this thread! I'm not suggesting letting these guys entirely off the hook. I'm fine with a Summary Court on this! What I DON'T want to see, is these men going before a GCM and getting brig time and a BCD; that would be over the top. One more time, we are NOT talking murder or torture here. There are reasons why the UCMJ has other options for discipline; some of you, including some who SHOULD know better, seem to think any public breach of regulations deserves to be recommended for an Article 32 investigation; horseshit! It's the Uniform Code of Military JUSTICE, NOT the Uniform Code of Military CRUCIFIXION, for God's sake! I'm not pulling out the PTSD card here either; those of you who think that a good troop cannot become temporarily unhinged and do something off the wall after a firefight have never seen much ground combat. IT CAN happen, and it DOES happen. Is it desirable? NO. Is it a good thing? Absolutely NOT. Normally, an officer or senior NCO is present to tell the offending parties to knock it off, NOW, and that's the end of it. That didn't happen in this case, and now we have this mess.

I'm going to respectfully disagree with our good friend Ollie here; I DO NOT advocate pinning any medals on these Marines. I want that slap on the wrist to sting, enough so that they and everyone else understands that this was stupid, and NOT a good idea. That's enough. A General Court on this is like using a sledgehammer to swat a fly; it's overkill, and it tears up the furniture and walls in the house up more than just leaving the fly alone would; that's why they make flyswatters. It's also why the UCMJ provides for non-judicial punishment.

Those of you who want to be so hardass on this, let me ask you something; if one of those boys were YOUR kid, and I were his commanding officer, would you want me to throw him under the bus, or treat him fairly and with some degree of compassion and regard for the circumstances?

Actually, if I was stupid enough to do something like this, I would expect to receive a GCM and a BCD.

The main reason I would expect as much, is because it is now an international incident.

However...........never in 20 years did I lose my cool so much as to do something along the lines of that, nor did my shipmates.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Like I said Stupid Fucker Called Ollie, you support troops breaking the Geneva Conventions and the Code of Conduct.

Good to know that such a great NCO such as yourself supports breaking international as well as military rules.

Sergeant First Class to you fuckface..........

No.......to me you're a Stupid Fucker Called Ollie because you support breaking both regular military law, as well as international law.

Glad I never had to take a Code of Conduct class from your stupid lawbreaking ass.

Hey gaybikerbitch, **** off.........

And since you want to pat yourself on the back so hard I wonder is the Navy achievement medal equal to the Army achievement medal? My bet is that they are. Which means it's almost a ******* give away ribbon. I have 3 or 4 Army Achievement medals and 3 Army Commendation Medals, along with others.

But the only one I wear on my caps is the National Defense Ribbon, of which I have 2 and which if i remember right you talked shit about........

So listen, I really don't give a **** what some loser E6 thinks about what I think.
I pinned on my Stripes about the time you were getting your ass busted by your first NCO. So talk all you want about sitting on your ass in a ship 5 miles off shore in a Combat Zone, Getting 3 hots and a cot every ******* day. You haven't a damned clue what those troops were facing every day............

 

[ABikerSailor]

Sergeant First Class to you fuckface..........

No.......to me you're a Stupid Fucker Called Ollie because you support breaking both regular military law, as well as international law.

Glad I never had to take a Code of Conduct class from your stupid lawbreaking ass.

Hey gaybikerbitch, **** off.........

And since you want to pat yourself on the back so hard I wonder is the Navy achievement medal equal to the Army achievement medal? My bet is that they are. Which means it's almost a ******* give away ribbon. I have 3 or 4 Army Achievement medals and 3 Army Commendation Medals, along with others.

But the only one I wear on my caps is the National Defense Ribbon, of which I have 2 and which if i remember right you talked shit about........

So listen, I really don't give a **** what some loser E6 thinks about what I think.
I pinned on my Stripes about the time you were getting your ass busted by your first NCO. So talk all you want about sitting on your ass in a ship 5 miles off shore in a Combat Zone, Getting 3 hots and a cot every ******* day. You haven't a damned clue what those troops were facing every day............

Never got busted in rank, because I never advocated breaking the rules Stupid Fucker Called Olivia.

And......as far as NAM's? Most of 'em are signed by the CO, and it takes doing something special to have them signed by the Battle Group commanders (i.e. Admirals).

It also takes a special type of person to fill 2 independent duty billets back to back, both of whom I relieved E-7's, and was REPLACED by an E-7. Also had special dispensation from BUPERS to administer and carry Navy Wide Advancement Exams as an E-6 because again........I followed the rules and didn't advocate breaking any of them.

Also helped that my error rate for payroll was less than 2 percent, and outstanding by Navy standards was to have less than 5 percent, and I was half that.

But like I said.......while I was in, I followed the rules and didn't advocate breaking them like you seem to be doing.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yawn

 

[Sunshine]

Sergeant First Class to you fuckface..........

No.......to me you're a Stupid Fucker Called Ollie because you support breaking both regular military law, as well as international law.

Glad I never had to take a Code of Conduct class from your stupid lawbreaking ass.

Hey gaybikerbitch, **** off.........

And since you want to pat yourself on the back so hard I wonder is the Navy achievement medal equal to the Army achievement medal? My bet is that they are. Which means it's almost a ******* give away ribbon. I have 3 or 4 Army Achievement medals and 3 Army Commendation Medals, along with others.

But the only one I wear on my caps is the National Defense Ribbon, of which I have 2 and which if i remember right you talked shit about........

So listen, I really don't give a **** what some loser E6 thinks about what I think.
I pinned on my Stripes about the time you were getting your ass busted by your first NCO. So talk all you want about sitting on your ass in a ship 5 miles off shore in a Combat Zone, Getting 3 hots and a cot every ******* day. You haven't a damned clue what those troops were facing every day............

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[Sunshine]

Actually, I can't reenlist because I have an RE-2 code on my DD214, which means that I'M ******* RETIRED YOU DUMB *****.

As far as war service? Not that I have to tell you but I was in Beruit in 1983, 1984 and 1985........you remember what it was like then?


Beirut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was also part of Desert Storm, pts 1 and 2, as well as was floating in a combat zone around Kosovo in the late 90's, and yes, I've been under artillery fire.

Oh.........and by the way.........I've also been awarded 3 Navy Achievement Medals, all of them signed by Admirals.

Go **** yourself Sunshine.

Desert Storm started in 1990. And it was not fought in Beirut.

You are a Liar.

Apparently you can't read either you dumb whore, because now, I've bolded it for you in the part where I'd said that I was in Beruit in '83, 84 and '85. Matter of fact, it was onboard the USS CONCORD, and we stopped there every month to resupply the Marines as well as UNREP and VERTREP the ships that were watching over them. That is also where I got fired at by heavy artillery, because we used to anchor out and let the helos do the resupply until someone started taking pot shots at us. Afterwards, we were required to do little boxes up and down the coast.

Try again you dumb skeevy *****.

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Desert Storm started in 1990. And it was not fought in Beirut.

You are a Liar.

Apparently you can't read either you dumb whore, because now, I've bolded it for you in the part where I'd said that I was in Beruit in '83, 84 and '85. Matter of fact, it was onboard the USS CONCORD, and we stopped there every month to resupply the Marines as well as UNREP and VERTREP the ships that were watching over them. That is also where I got fired at by heavy artillery, because we used to anchor out and let the helos do the resupply until someone started taking pot shots at us. Afterwards, we were required to do little boxes up and down the coast.

Try again you dumb skeevy *****.

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

Well.........the blue ID card that I have, as well as the military retirement check that I draw, combined with an LES that comes to my house whenever there is a change in my check, those things may beg to differ with you.

And yeah.............I do respect women, not shallow skeevy whores who call others liars when they fail to read the whole ******* post ya stupid ****.

Besides.............the chances of someone like you being a lawyer? Doubtful at best, because you appear too stupid.

(See...........I can make baseless accusations through the computer like you!)

 

[Zoom]

Desert Storm started in 1990. And it was not fought in Beirut.

You are a Liar.

Apparently you can't read either you dumb whore, because now, I've bolded it for you in the part where I'd said that I was in Beruit in '83, 84 and '85. Matter of fact, it was onboard the USS CONCORD, and we stopped there every month to resupply the Marines as well as UNREP and VERTREP the ships that were watching over them. That is also where I got fired at by heavy artillery, because we used to anchor out and let the helos do the resupply until someone started taking pot shots at us. Afterwards, we were required to do little boxes up and down the coast.

Try again you dumb skeevy *****.

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

and dead bodies of killed enemies.

Marines are better than this and so is America. We all know how upset we get when we see them dragging dead american bodies. Do we say, war is hell to them? Of course not.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

 

[Sunshine]

Apparently you can't read either you dumb whore, because now, I've bolded it for you in the part where I'd said that I was in Beruit in '83, 84 and '85. Matter of fact, it was onboard the USS CONCORD, and we stopped there every month to resupply the Marines as well as UNREP and VERTREP the ships that were watching over them. That is also where I got fired at by heavy artillery, because we used to anchor out and let the helos do the resupply until someone started taking pot shots at us. Afterwards, we were required to do little boxes up and down the coast.

Try again you dumb skeevy *****.

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

Well.........the blue ID card that I have, as well as the military retirement check that I draw, combined with an LES that comes to my house whenever there is a change in my check, those things may beg to differ with you.

And yeah.............I do respect women, not shallow skeevy whores who call others liars when they fail to read the whole ******* post ya stupid ****.

Besides.............the chances of someone like you being a lawyer? Doubtful at best, because you appear too stupid.

(See...........I can make baseless accusations through the computer like you!)

You were never in the military.

Ollie was in the military. AND is probably a Freemason as well. He has been respectful to me when I have not been respectful to him.

 

[Sunshine]

Apparently you can't read either you dumb whore, because now, I've bolded it for you in the part where I'd said that I was in Beruit in '83, 84 and '85. Matter of fact, it was onboard the USS CONCORD, and we stopped there every month to resupply the Marines as well as UNREP and VERTREP the ships that were watching over them. That is also where I got fired at by heavy artillery, because we used to anchor out and let the helos do the resupply until someone started taking pot shots at us. Afterwards, we were required to do little boxes up and down the coast.

Try again you dumb skeevy *****.

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

and dead bodies of killed enemies.

Marines are better than this and so is America. We all know how upset we get when we see them dragging dead american bodies. Do we say, war is hell to them? Of course not.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

Thank you Rhet Butler.

Oh wait. It was Rhet Butler who didn't have any delusions!

Thank you, Ashley Wilkes.

 

[Zoom]

Apparently you can't read either you dumb whore, because now, I've bolded it for you in the part where I'd said that I was in Beruit in '83, 84 and '85. Matter of fact, it was onboard the USS CONCORD, and we stopped there every month to resupply the Marines as well as UNREP and VERTREP the ships that were watching over them. That is also where I got fired at by heavy artillery, because we used to anchor out and let the helos do the resupply until someone started taking pot shots at us. Afterwards, we were required to do little boxes up and down the coast.

Try again you dumb skeevy *****.

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

Well.........the blue ID card that I have, as well as the military retirement check that I draw, combined with an LES that comes to my house whenever there is a change in my check, those things may beg to differ with you.

And yeah.............I do respect women, not shallow skeevy whores who call others liars when they fail to read the whole ******* post ya stupid ****.

Besides.............the chances of someone like you being a lawyer? Doubtful at best, because you appear too stupid.

(See...........I can make baseless accusations through the computer like you!)

I know your rank....did you enjoy your nice little 60 buck raise? I look at it as better than them taking that money away.

 

[Zoom]

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

and dead bodies of killed enemies.

Marines are better than this and so is America. We all know how upset we get when we see them dragging dead american bodies. Do we say, war is hell to them? Of course not.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

Thank you Rhet Butler.

Oh wait. It was Rhet Butler who didn't have any delusions!

Thank you, Ashley Wilkes.

I can tell, You were never in the military. Military women are taught to respect men.

 

[bodecea]

Desert Storm started in 1990. And it was not fought in Beirut.

You are a Liar.

Apparently you can't read either you dumb whore, because now, I've bolded it for you in the part where I'd said that I was in Beruit in '83, 84 and '85. Matter of fact, it was onboard the USS CONCORD, and we stopped there every month to resupply the Marines as well as UNREP and VERTREP the ships that were watching over them. That is also where I got fired at by heavy artillery, because we used to anchor out and let the helos do the resupply until someone started taking pot shots at us. Afterwards, we were required to do little boxes up and down the coast.

Try again you dumb skeevy *****.

You were never in the military. Military men are taught to respect women.

That just about made my soda come back up thru my nose!

 

[SFC Ollie]

No.......to me you're a Stupid Fucker Called Ollie because you support breaking both regular military law, as well as international law.

Glad I never had to take a Code of Conduct class from your stupid lawbreaking ass.

Hey gaybikerbitch, **** off.........

And since you want to pat yourself on the back so hard I wonder is the Navy achievement medal equal to the Army achievement medal? My bet is that they are. Which means it's almost a ******* give away ribbon. I have 3 or 4 Army Achievement medals and 3 Army Commendation Medals, along with others.

But the only one I wear on my caps is the National Defense Ribbon, of which I have 2 and which if i remember right you talked shit about........

So listen, I really don't give a **** what some loser E6 thinks about what I think.
I pinned on my Stripes about the time you were getting your ass busted by your first NCO. So talk all you want about sitting on your ass in a ship 5 miles off shore in a Combat Zone, Getting 3 hots and a cot every ******* day. You haven't a damned clue what those troops were facing every day............

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Now now, don't go hurting his poor little feelings..........