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[eagle1462010]

No. I mean NATO. We are not talking about demilitarization of Ukraine only anymore. With NATO involved, the bets were raised. Now we are talking about NATO rolling back its military infrastructure, about demilitarization of Europe. They, of course, won't agree, and the war will escalate.

You want to die. Go ahead and do it

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

His puppet leader was ousted and ukraine elected someone who wanted in NATO. So he used proxies in Donbas to try to break away from Ukraine.

Didnt work with proxies so eventually he took Crimea to ensure Russian access to the Black Sea. He wanted Donbas and more to put a buffer zone on land for Crimea.

Since Proxies didnt take Donbas he went full invasion to secure more ports to the Black Sea and buffer zone land to protect them.

Sound it continue he may try to permanently cease Odessa.

This War is about land and access to the Black Sea.

Wrong word.

 

[Zavulon]

You want to die. Go ahead and do it

We wanna survive. And that's why you'll die first. For we have a big iron on our hip.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And where do you see it? As far as I know even US-TV doesn't claim it.

It does. It says Russian casualties are almost unbearable.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If you don't know about Odessa massacre - you either supporter of genocide (for denialism is a kind of support), either you allow yourself talk about Ukrainian conflict without even minimal understanding of the question. Odessa massacre was even more important for this conflict (at least emotionally) than 911 was to "American war with terror".

I asked the person I was replying to to back up his arguments, he doesn't, so I tell him to do so, and he still doesn't.

I wonder why....

 

[frigidweirdo]

No. I mean NATO. We are not talking about demilitarization of Ukraine only anymore. With NATO involved, the bets were raised. Now we are talking about NATO rolling back its military infrastructure, about demilitarization of Europe. They, of course, won't agree, and the war will escalate.

Why would Europe, with a GDP of $20 trillion (nominal) do what a country with a GDP of $2 trillion wants?

Germany has a better economy, but less people, as do Italy and France and the UK (which isn't even in the EU). Russia showed its military isn't very good. Can't even beat the Ukraine and needs NORTH KOREA to supply loads of cannon fodder.

 

[Deadstick]

You have lots of words, but again, you've totally failed to provide even a little bit of evidence.

You say "Odessa massacre ring any bells?" and yet you don't provide evidence for this. Like a broken record.

So you have not seen a fascist mob burning the trade Union building down in 2014 in Odessa and beating survivors to death? i can't make my mind up if you are retarded or in a state of denial, i have provided ten years of evidence of the attacks on Donbass civilians, next you will be telling us the Nazi death camps didn't exist.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you have not seen a fascist mob burning the trade Union building down in 2014 in Odessa and beating survivors to death? i can't make my mind up if you are retarded or in a state of denial, i have provided ten years of evidence of the attacks on Donbass civilians, next you will be telling us the Nazi death camps didn't exist.

And yet you'll never provide evidence for things, you don't make your argument properly, and it means you come on here and waste your time.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Oh, so sad yet I'm holding out hope. I'm awkward at prayer but did my best.

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When feeling awkward, pray the Hail Mary. The Virgin will know whom you are praying for and will carry your prayer to her Son.


"Hail Mary, full of Grace, the Lord is with Thee. Blessed art Thou among women and Blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen"


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[Deadstick]

And yet you'll never provide evidence for things, you don't make your argument properly, and it means you come on here and waste your time.

I have provided evidence for years but you ignore it, try this for evidence Ukrainian Nazis murdering anti Maidan people in Odessa, ignore that.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Youtube is not acceptable evidence.

 

[Deadstick]

Youtube is not acceptable evidence.

No amount of evidence will be enough for those in denial.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No amount of evidence will be enough for those in denial.

I agree. You prove it daily.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Youtube is not acceptable evidence.

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Of course it's not, until you find a YT vid that agrees with your cult.




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[Zavulon]

It does. It says Russian casualties are almost unbearable.

"Unbearable"? Really? What do they know about Russian ability to bear losses (especially if the alternative is genocide)?

 

[Zavulon]

Why would Europe, with a GDP of $20 trillion (nominal) do what a country with a GDP of $2 trillion wants?

Virtual dollars and euros have nothing to do with real economic capabilities. Its just ones and zeroes in the bank computers, nothing more.

Germany has a better economy, but less people, as do Italy and France and the UK (which isn't even in the EU). Russia showed its military isn't very good. Can't even beat the Ukraine and needs NORTH KOREA to supply loads of cannon fodder.

Russia is not "beating" Ukraine. And did the USA need Ukrainian cannon fodder in their operations in Afghanistan and Iraq?

 

[Zavulon]

You have lots of words, but again, you've totally failed to provide even a little bit of evidence.

You say "Odessa massacre ring any bells?" and yet you don't provide evidence for this. Like a broken record.

Its simple. Odessa Massacre was more important for Russian "Special Military Operation" than 911 was for American "War on Terror". You can't discuss American operations in Iraq and Afghanistan like, denying 911 terroristic act.

In fact, the burning House of Trade Union ignited the largest firestorm since Hiroshima, and if you ignore it, it's simply your misfortune. Stupidity and ignorance are the most expensive things in this world, for you pay the largest price for it.

 

[Moonglow]

We wanna survive. And that's why you'll die first. For we have a big iron on our hip.

totally useless when sinking in a bog.

 

[Zavulon]

I asked the person I was replying to to back up his arguments, he doesn't, so I tell him to do so, and he still doesn't.

I wonder why....

Its simple. If you ask an American about any evidence of 911, you'd be taken either for a fool or conspiracy theory beliver.

 

[Zavulon]

totally useless when sinking in a bog.

Of course not. Even if you are sinking - you can use it to make a signal, or you can try to shoot off a branch from nearby tree.

Anyway, we are not sinking in a bog. We just face a little gang of guys with knobs and knives (and only one of them have a revolver). All we need is to shoot them all before they came too close (starting from a guy with a gun).