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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

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Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
 

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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

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Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
I think Ike was a terrible General, and not real great as a president. If it wasn't for him Patton would have beaten the soviets in 1947 and MacArthur would have had Mao hung up in Peking.


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That's interesting, as the UK theoretically had the most to gain from the invasion of Normandy as the Germans were firing V2 weapons at their cities. from French launching points.
 
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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

View attachment 422529
Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
I think Ike was a terrible General, and not real great as a president. If it wasn't for him Patton would have beaten the soviets in 1947 and MacArthur would have had Mao hung up in Peking.


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Have you seen what the Stalin/Roosevelt Cartel did to Patton?
 
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That's interesting, as the UK theoretically had the most to gain from the invasion of Normandy as the Germans were firing V2 weapons at their cities. from French launching points.

Not following how you are relating that to the OP.

Please complete your thought.
 

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Have you seen what the Stalin/Roosevelt Cartel did to Patton?
I have read theories that they tried to kill him in that car wreck. I know the media even back then did their best to disparage him, even though he was regarded as a hero at home. Had he not been held in such high regard by the American public they probably would have managed to destroy him.

It's too bad that his life was cut so short, he could have easily been the President after Truman and purged the country of leftist filth.


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6. Stalin, the absolute winner of the war, and of the peace, got everything he wished.

He got the Allies to attack via Normandy, rather than Italy

He created the United Nations

He used American troops against his arch enemy, Germany

He saddled this nation with the neo-Marxism under which we all suffer [“Cultural Marxism, though it’s dismissed by critics as a “term invented by the Right”, “was an undeniable school of thought taking Marxist categories of oppressed and oppressor beyond the economic realm and applying to it other forms of oppression: gender, race, sexuality.” Caldron Pool]



He settled his best spy, Harry Hopkins, in the White House….actually living with and dictating to Roosevelt. [Harry Hopkins,- FDR's alter ego, co-president, or Rasputin, "...the closest and most influential adviser to President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II, was a Soviet agent." and “the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States.”
The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins]




7. Averell Harriman was special envoy of FDR. "At the Tehran Conference in late 1943 Harriman was tasked with placating a suspicious Churchill while Roosevelt attempted to gain the confidence of Stalin." W. Averell Harriman - Wikipedia
Harriman made this interesting observation: "When Stalin saw him [Hopkins] enter the conference room [Tehran]he got up, walked across the room and shook hands with him. I never saw him do that to anybody, even Roosevelt. He was the only man I ever saw Stalin show personal emotion for." Encounter Magazine interview, 1981.
 

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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

View attachment 422529
Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
If I had to fight a defensive war there is no better place than Italy. It is so mountainous that a small number of defenders could hold off a much larger force. There were no vast open fields for tanks to maneuver. Normandy was the right military decision.
 
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64 Years Later, CIA Finally Releases Details of Iranian Coup

This particular piece shows the audacity the CIA employs- throwing an underling under the bus-

Because you are so poorly read, you are so easily led.
No wonder you hesitated to point out the '1953' fable.

What you posted is false.

  1. Due to the unrest and criticisms, Mossadeq decided to dismiss the parliament; without any constitutional or legal basis. His supporters warned him that this would allow the Shah to make recess appointments, including the Prime Ministers. He didn’t believe that the Shah would do it….he was wrong. On August 13th, 1953 the Shah signed the decree which removed Mossadeq with General Fazollah Zehedi. “When pro-Shah soldiers went to arrest Mossadegh, they instead were captured.” http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/issue51/articles/51_14-15.pdf The Shah fled to Rome.
  2. By August 19th, crowds filled the streets, attacked Mossadeq’s home, and took over the radio station. The question is whether these crowds were simply concerned Iranians, nationalists, communists, as the Shah’s supporters claimed, or paid CIA operatives, and the CIA claims.
3. Professor Milani, using the latest declassified archival documents, suggests two things: a) the crowds were combinations of both, and b) “Although declassified CIA documents confirmed many details of his account, which Roosevelt told with the relish of a John le Carré thriller, his version was exceptionally self-serving. For instance, despite knowing little about Iranian society and speaking no Persian, Roosevelt launched by his own description an instantly potent propaganda campaign. Dwight Eisenhower, president during the 1953 coup, was to characterize Roosevelt’s report as seeming “more like a dime novel.” The CIA claimed more power that it actually had. http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/5280

Dr. Abbas Milani is he Director of the Iranian Studies Program at Stanford University. His recent book is “The Shah,” is based on ten years studying the archives of the United States and of Britain. The following is from his recent lecture on that subject.




Revealing that, after the lies of the CIA and FBI over the last four years, you still count on their explanations.

Sad, really.
 

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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

View attachment 422529
Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
A great President and Democrat.

Changing sides?
 
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Have you seen what the Stalin/Roosevelt Cartel did to Patton?
I have read theories that they tried to kill him in that car wreck. I know the media even back then did their best to disparage him, even though he was regarded as a hero at home. Had he not been held in such high regard by the American public they probably would have managed to destroy him.

It's too bad that his life was cut so short, he could have easily been the President after Truman and purged the country of leftist filth.


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In 1979, OSS Jedburgh Douglas Bazata made the astounding assertion that he was part of a hit team that lay in wait for Patton’s limousine. He claimed that after the crash, he fired a low-velocity projectile into the back of Patton’s neck in order to snap it. When Patton did not die immediately, Bazata said, the general was murdered in the hospital by NKVD agents using an odorless poison. Bazata also swore that Wild Bill Donovan paid him ten thousand dollars plus another eight hundred dollars in expenses for his role in Patton’s death. But many believe that Bazata’s story is far-fetched. No projectiles were ever found, and surelyWoodring and Hap Gay would have seen any assassination team. However, Bazata held to his story. On September 25, 1979, he described Patton’s assassination to four hundred and fifty former OSS agents gathered for a reunion at the Washington Hilton.

1

Bazata does have some credibility. He was heavily decorated for his service as a Jedburgh,inning the Distinguished Service Cross, four Purple Hearts, and France’s Croix de Guerre with two palms.

2

After the war ended and he left the army in 1947 as a major, Bazata led a flamboyant life. He

remained in France, where he studied wine making and had a successful career as a painter, with the Duchess of Windsor and Princess Grace of Monaco each sponsoring a showing of his work. Bazata himself was the subject of a painting by the eccentric artist Salvador Dalí, who put the former Jedburgh on canvas dressed up as Don Quixote. The British art critic Mark Webber, writing in 1969, noted that Bazata had “lived a life eventful enough for a dozen novels.” Among the former OSS members gathered in the ballroom of the Washington Hilton when Bazatamade his claims to have killed Patton, there was much conversation. Some believed him. And even after the astounding claim, Bazata was hired to work for the U.S. government, during the Reagan administration, as special assistant to Secretary of the Navy John F. Lehman Jr.



Upon his death in1999 at the age of eighty-eight, Bazata was the subject of a lengthy obituary in the

New York Times that made no mention of the claims that he’d killed Patton, which were widely known. However, in 1974 a work of fiction entitled The Algonquin Project , by British writer Frederick Nolan, was published that tells the story of an assassin who creeps up on Patton’s vehicle immediately after the accident and shoots a low-velocity projectile into the general’s neck. It has been confirmed that Bazata read this book. However, two former Jedburghs who knew Bazata well, along with journalist Joy Billington of the Washington Star, claim that he confided to them about the Patton assassination as early as 1972, two years before the book was published.* * *



The strange death of George S. Patton should be reexamined by American military investigators. Although the trail is ice cold, technological advances could solve some of the puzzles. There is no doubt that General Patton died a hero, and history certainly honors that to this day. But the tough old general did not go out on his own terms, and there are many unanswered questions surrounding his death. Those questions deserve to be addressed."

color:black">O'Reilly and Dugard, " Killing Patton"
 
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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

View attachment 422529
Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
A great President and Democrat.

Changing sides?


"A great President and Democrat."

This????

1. Roosevelt offered up the lives of everyone in Eastern Europe to his lord and master, Joseph 'Koba' Stalin



2. He made certain that Stalin's plans continued after his death: the creation of the United Nations



3. He extended the Depression by years.



4. He disposed of the Constitution



5. He imposed Mussolini's Fascist policies and called it 'the New Deal



6. He turned over command of our military actions in WWII to Stalin, and cost multiple thousands of US soldiers' deaths.



7. He made certain that communism survived the war, and thrived afterwards.



8. Without his efforts, there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War



9. ...and he is the proximate explanation for the cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.



10. He was a racist and a bigot how wanted only those ‘with the right sort of blood.’ Sounds like a Nazis, huh?



And, he inspired lying Leftists like you.



Memo: you need not prove you're a fool on a daily basis. Readers have memories.
 
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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

View attachment 422529
Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
If I had to fight a defensive war there is no better place than Italy. It is so mountainous that a small number of defenders could hold off a much larger force. There were no vast open fields for tanks to maneuver. Normandy was the right military decision.

I am certain that every military tactician rushes to avail himself of your insights.
 

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Have you seen what the Stalin/Roosevelt Cartel did to Patton?
I have read theories that they tried to kill him in that car wreck. I know the media even back then did their best to disparage him, even though he was regarded as a hero at home. Had he not been held in such high regard by the American public they probably would have managed to destroy him.

It's too bad that his life was cut so short, he could have easily been the President after Truman and purged the country of leftist filth.


.
In 1979, OSS Jedburgh Douglas Bazata made the astounding assertion that he was part of a hit team that lay in wait for Patton’s limousine. He claimed that after the crash, he fired a low-velocity projectile into the back of Patton’s neck in order to snap it. When Patton did not die immediately, Bazata said, the general was murdered in the hospital by NKVD agents using an odorless poison. Bazata also swore that Wild Bill Donovan paid him ten thousand dollars plus another eight hundred dollars in expenses for his role in Patton’s death. But many believe that Bazata’s story is far-fetched. No projectiles were ever found, and surelyWoodring and Hap Gay would have seen any assassination team. However, Bazata held to his story. On September 25, 1979, he described Patton’s assassination to four hundred and fifty former OSS agents gathered for a reunion at the Washington Hilton.

1

Bazata does have some credibility. He was heavily decorated for his service as a Jedburgh,inning the Distinguished Service Cross, four Purple Hearts, and France’s Croix de Guerre with two palms.

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After the war ended and he left the army in 1947 as a major, Bazata led a flamboyant life. He

remained in France, where he studied wine making and had a successful career as a painter, with the Duchess of Windsor and Princess Grace of Monaco each sponsoring a showing of his work. Bazata himself was the subject of a painting by the eccentric artist Salvador Dalí, who put the former Jedburgh on canvas dressed up as Don Quixote. The British art critic Mark Webber, writing in 1969, noted that Bazata had “lived a life eventful enough for a dozen novels.” Among the former OSS members gathered in the ballroom of the Washington Hilton when Bazatamade his claims to have killed Patton, there was much conversation. Some believed him. And even after the astounding claim, Bazata was hired to work for the U.S. government, during the Reagan administration, as special assistant to Secretary of the Navy John F. Lehman Jr.



Upon his death in1999 at the age of eighty-eight, Bazata was the subject of a lengthy obituary in the

New York Times that made no mention of the claims that he’d killed Patton, which were widely known. However, in 1974 a work of fiction entitled The Algonquin Project , by British writer Frederick Nolan, was published that tells the story of an assassin who creeps up on Patton’s vehicle immediately after the accident and shoots a low-velocity projectile into the general’s neck. It has been confirmed that Bazata read this book. However, two former Jedburghs who knew Bazata well, along with journalist Joy Billington of the Washington Star, claim that he confided to them about the Patton assassination as early as 1972, two years before the book was published.* * *



The strange death of George S. Patton should be reexamined by American military investigators. Although the trail is ice cold, technological advances could solve some of the puzzles. There is no doubt that General Patton died a hero, and history certainly honors that to this day. But the tough old general did not go out on his own terms, and there are many unanswered questions surrounding his death. Those questions deserve to be addressed."

color:black">O'Reilly and Dugard, " Killing Patton"
Sounds pretty far fetched, the story I heard was much less complex. It did involve having someone lie in wait to cause the wreck though.
 
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Have you seen what the Stalin/Roosevelt Cartel did to Patton?
I have read theories that they tried to kill him in that car wreck. I know the media even back then did their best to disparage him, even though he was regarded as a hero at home. Had he not been held in such high regard by the American public they probably would have managed to destroy him.

It's too bad that his life was cut so short, he could have easily been the President after Truman and purged the country of leftist filth.


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In 1979, OSS Jedburgh Douglas Bazata made the astounding assertion that he was part of a hit team that lay in wait for Patton’s limousine. He claimed that after the crash, he fired a low-velocity projectile into the back of Patton’s neck in order to snap it. When Patton did not die immediately, Bazata said, the general was murdered in the hospital by NKVD agents using an odorless poison. Bazata also swore that Wild Bill Donovan paid him ten thousand dollars plus another eight hundred dollars in expenses for his role in Patton’s death. But many believe that Bazata’s story is far-fetched. No projectiles were ever found, and surelyWoodring and Hap Gay would have seen any assassination team. However, Bazata held to his story. On September 25, 1979, he described Patton’s assassination to four hundred and fifty former OSS agents gathered for a reunion at the Washington Hilton.

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Bazata does have some credibility. He was heavily decorated for his service as a Jedburgh,inning the Distinguished Service Cross, four Purple Hearts, and France’s Croix de Guerre with two palms.

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After the war ended and he left the army in 1947 as a major, Bazata led a flamboyant life. He

remained in France, where he studied wine making and had a successful career as a painter, with the Duchess of Windsor and Princess Grace of Monaco each sponsoring a showing of his work. Bazata himself was the subject of a painting by the eccentric artist Salvador Dalí, who put the former Jedburgh on canvas dressed up as Don Quixote. The British art critic Mark Webber, writing in 1969, noted that Bazata had “lived a life eventful enough for a dozen novels.” Among the former OSS members gathered in the ballroom of the Washington Hilton when Bazatamade his claims to have killed Patton, there was much conversation. Some believed him. And even after the astounding claim, Bazata was hired to work for the U.S. government, during the Reagan administration, as special assistant to Secretary of the Navy John F. Lehman Jr.



Upon his death in1999 at the age of eighty-eight, Bazata was the subject of a lengthy obituary in the

New York Times that made no mention of the claims that he’d killed Patton, which were widely known. However, in 1974 a work of fiction entitled The Algonquin Project , by British writer Frederick Nolan, was published that tells the story of an assassin who creeps up on Patton’s vehicle immediately after the accident and shoots a low-velocity projectile into the general’s neck. It has been confirmed that Bazata read this book. However, two former Jedburghs who knew Bazata well, along with journalist Joy Billington of the Washington Star, claim that he confided to them about the Patton assassination as early as 1972, two years before the book was published.* * *



The strange death of George S. Patton should be reexamined by American military investigators. Although the trail is ice cold, technological advances could solve some of the puzzles. There is no doubt that General Patton died a hero, and history certainly honors that to this day. But the tough old general did not go out on his own terms, and there are many unanswered questions surrounding his death. Those questions deserve to be addressed."

color:black">O'Reilly and Dugard, " Killing Patton"
Sounds pretty far fetched, the story I heard was much less complex. It did involve having someone lie in wait to cause the wreck though.

Almost as far fetched as this:

"Aric Toler Did Putin order Russia's latest poison attack? What Navalny's Novichok diagnosis tells us
No matter who is pulling the strings, the poisoning of Alexei Navalny clearly reflects the growing impunity with which Russia's security services are operating at home and abroad."
 

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If I had to fight a defensive war there is no better place than Italy. It is so mountainous that a small number of defenders could hold off a much larger force. There were no vast open fields for tanks to maneuver. Normandy was the right military decision.

I am certain that every military tactician rushes to avail himself of your insights.
Maybe to do the exact opposite...

We had Italy pretty much swept up, it was stupid to abandon that doorway and create a new one like we did. We could have liberated all of eastern europe before the soviets got there.
 
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If I had to fight a defensive war there is no better place than Italy. It is so mountainous that a small number of defenders could hold off a much larger force. There were no vast open fields for tanks to maneuver. Normandy was the right military decision.

I am certain that every military tactician rushes to avail himself of your insights.
Maybe to do the exact opposite...

We had Italy pretty much swept up, it was stupid to abandon that doorway and create a new one like we did. We could have liberated all of eastern europe before the soviets got there.
...in 1943, before he was offered another star:
"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO. In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would be closer to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961

Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....

" In December 1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe." Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He received his fifth star December 20, 1944....four days after Marshall received his.

Eisenhower knew how to take orders.
 

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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

View attachment 422529
Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
A great President and Democrat.

Changing sides?


"A great President and Democrat."

This????

1. Roosevelt offered up the lives of everyone in Eastern Europe to his lord and master, Joseph 'Koba' Stalin



2. He made certain that Stalin's plans continued after his death: the creation of the United Nations



3. He extended the Depression by years.



4. He disposed of the Constitution



5. He imposed Mussolini's Fascist policies and called it 'the New Deal



6. He turned over command of our military actions in WWII to Stalin, and cost multiple thousands of US soldiers' deaths.



7. He made certain that communism survived the war, and thrived afterwards.



8. Without his efforts, there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War



9. ...and he is the proximate explanation for the cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.



10. He was a racist and a bigot how wanted only those ‘with the right sort of blood.’ Sounds like a Nazis, huh?



And, he inspired lying Leftists like you.



Memo: you need not prove you're a fool on a daily basis. Readers have memories.
Awww, you almost made it without me having to call Godwin's Law on you. Better luck next time, homskoold. :lol:
 
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1. On this date, November 28th, ......
Opening of Tehrān Conference
The Tehrān Conference, attended by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin, at which Stalin pressed for an invasion of France, opened this day in 1943.

View attachment 422529
Just by coincidence, the winner of the conference, and of the war, are in the proper order in this pic.


2. "The Tehran Conference (codenamed Eureka[1]) was a strategy meeting held between Joseph Stalin,Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill from 28 November to 1 December 1943. It was held in the Soviet Embassy in Tehran, Iran and was the first of the World War II conferences held between all of the"Big Three" Allied leaders.... the main outcome of the Tehran Conference was the commitment to the opening of a second front against Nazi Germany by the Western Allies." Tehran Conference - Wikipedia

3. Churchill repeatedly proposed an attack via already established Allied bases in Italy, and expanding operations from the Adriatic and Aegean Seas into south central Europe, Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left open to millions of Red Army troops. "The D-Day invasion was forced on a reluctant Churchill by the Americans..... pressed instead for a strategy focused on the Mediterranean, pushing through the "soft underbelly" of southern Europe, over the Alps and through the Balkans. The Americans prevailed because they provided an increasingly larger share of the forces and funding.... Roosevelt dispatched Marshall and presidential envoy Harry Hopkins to London to sell the idea to the British." Churchill’s Southern Strategy - Air Force Magazine



4. In Tehran, Roosevelt sided with Stalin. Churchill was beside himself! It was at Tehran that Churchill realized that to help the countries of Eastern Europe, he had to get there before the Red Army.
Lord Moran "Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran," p. 155


5. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


Now....what could have made him change his mind, and agree with Stalin/Roosevelt?
" In December1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suddenly, the Roosevelt/Stalin choice, Normandy, became exemplary.
A great President and Democrat.

Changing sides?


"A great President and Democrat."

This????

1. Roosevelt offered up the lives of everyone in Eastern Europe to his lord and master, Joseph 'Koba' Stalin



2. He made certain that Stalin's plans continued after his death: the creation of the United Nations



3. He extended the Depression by years.



4. He disposed of the Constitution



5. He imposed Mussolini's Fascist policies and called it 'the New Deal



6. He turned over command of our military actions in WWII to Stalin, and cost multiple thousands of US soldiers' deaths.



7. He made certain that communism survived the war, and thrived afterwards.



8. Without his efforts, there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War



9. ...and he is the proximate explanation for the cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.



10. He was a racist and a bigot how wanted only those ‘with the right sort of blood.’ Sounds like a Nazis, huh?



And, he inspired lying Leftists like you.



Memo: you need not prove you're a fool on a daily basis. Readers have memories.
Awww, you almost made it without me having to call Godwin's Law on you. Better luck next time, homskoold. :lol:


Putting you in your place, last seat in the dumb row, is hardly a difficult task.
You must be comfortable there by now.
 

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