Turns out, it's white Democrat men who are unable to get IDs

[pknopp]

Since you are so upset about this, then the SAVE Act should demand that a special card for voting be created for every registered voter.

Yet the Republican Party doesn't want to do that. Why?

I already told you why -- because they want to cheat and prevent college kids and people of color from voting.

I have noted many times that states could have issued photo voters registrations years ago.

They won't.

 

[JGalt]

No, it won't. Because what you don't understand is that uneducated voters are the ones who are not going to jump through all the bureaucratic hoops to get a voter ID. And the Republican Party is now very dependent on uneducated white voters.

WTF are you talking about with this "voter ID"???

There is no "voter ID." In order to register or vote all the SAVE Act is requiring is a state or federal government issued ID, such as a driver's license, state ID card, or passport.

There is no special "voter registration ID card" in this country. Other countries like Mexico, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, etc. do have voter registration cards. I know this because I tend a cash register for a large chain of convenience stores. The illegals try to pass them off as a valid ID card when they buy alcohol or tobacco products, and I refuse the sale to them.

 

[JGalt]

Since you are so upset about this, then the SAVE Act should demand that a special card for voting be created for every registered voter.

Yet the Republican Party doesn't want to do that. Why?

I already told you why -- because they want to cheat and prevent college kids and people of color from voting.

Just quit already. You're making yourself look stupid.

 

[Alicia J]

I have noted many times that states could have issued photo voters registrations years ago.

They won't.

And you are 100% correct.

The MAGA supporters on here don't seem to understand that red states don't want to issue voter IDs to every registered voter in their state....because it makes it much harder to suppress Democrats from voting if every voter is treated equally.

Or the MAGA supporters on here do understand this and they just want Trump and Republicans to get away with cheating in elections, anyway.

 

[pknopp]

WTF are you talking about with this "voter ID"???

There is no "voter ID." In order to register or vote all the SAVE Act is requiring is a state or federal government issued ID, such as a driver's license, state ID card, or passport.

All which you must pay for which makes it a poll tax. Now I'm sure you would be OK with that but the courts aren't going to.

There is no special "voter registration ID card" in this country. Other countries like Mexico, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, etc. do have voter registration cards. I know this because I tend a cash register for a large chain of convenience stores. The illegals try to pass them off as a valid ID card when they buy alcohol or tobacco products, and I refuse the sale to them.

 

[JGalt]

And you are 100% correct.

The MAGA supporters on here don't seem to understand that red states don't want to issue voter IDs to every registered voter in their state....because it makes it much harder to suppress Democrats from voting if every voter is treated equally.

Or the MAGA supporters on here do understand this and they just want Trump and Republicans to get away with cheating in elections, anyway.

Once again, there is no such requirement for a "voter ID." Only four states have a dedicated voter ID and in every case, you have to provide a birth certificate or Social Security card to obtain one.

 

[Alicia J]

Just quit already. You're making yourself look stupid.

You are free to answer the question. Why won't Trump and the Republican Party demand that voter IDs be issued to every registered voter in the country?

 

[Concerned American]

I have noted many times that states could have issued photo voters registrations years ago.

They won't.

Why the extra red tape when you already have Real ID compliant drivers licenses and state issued IDs that are valid for identification. The reason the gov't doesn't require voter registration cards is because they have no photo for one and they list your party affiliation which is nobody's business. Try again.

 

[Alicia J]

Once again, there is no such thing as a "voter ID."

And your precious Trump and your precious Republican Party can fix that.

But they would rather try to prevent Democrats from voting instead.

 

[pknopp]

Why the extra red tape when you already have Real ID compliant drivers licenses and state issued IDs that are valid for identification. The reason the gov't doesn't require voter registration cards is because they have no photo for one and they list your party affiliation which is nobody's business. Try again.

Both must be paid for. Already covered. My voters registration card lists my party affiliation. (I)

 

[Alicia J]

Why the extra red tape when you already have Real ID compliant drivers licenses and state issued IDs that are valid for identification. The reason the gov't doesn't require voter registration cards is because they have no photo for one and they list your party affiliation which is nobody's business. Try again.

LOL. I guess you aren't aware that Trump wants access to every states' voting data using this SAVE Act.

The red tape is the whole point -- to make it more difficult for Democrats to vote. However, this could easily backfire on uneducated white Republican voters, as I previously explained. So be careful what you wish for.

 

[Concerned American]

And your precious Trump and your precious Republican Party can fix that.

But they would rather try to prevent Democrats from voting instead.

Didn't take long for you to demonstrate your youthful ignorance. I suspect you're a sock who has changed your user name--if not your doppelganger was on this board but she hasn't been seen for awhile.

 

[JGalt]

You are free to answer the question. Why won't Trump and the Republican Party demand that voter IDs be issued to every registered voter in the country?

Why should they? It's unreasonable to have different ID cards for voting, purchasing alcohol or tobacco, or purchasing a firearm. That's just silly and redundant.

 

[Alicia J]

Why would we create a new one when we have several that do that now.

Make it the same for everyone. That way, we know no one is getting screwed.

But Republicans want to screw Democratic voters. That's the whole point of this bill.

 

[Alicia J]

Why should they? It's unreasonable to have different ID cards for voting, purchasing alcohol or tobacco, or purchasing a firearm. That's just silly and redundant.

So why do you whine about Democrats not wanting a voter ID when you don't want a voter ID?

 

[JGalt]

LOL. I guess you aren't aware that Trump wants access to every states' voting data using this SAVE Act.

The red tape is the whole point -- to make it more difficult for Democrats to vote. However, this could easily backfire on uneducated white Republican voters, as I previously explained. So be careful what you wish for.

Every state's voter rolls should be purged of those who are ineligible to vote.

 

[pknopp]

Why should they? It's unreasonable to have different ID cards for voting, purchasing alcohol or tobacco, or purchasing a firearm. That's just silly and redundant.

It's how it's long been and how I've noted it will have to be.

 

[Alicia J]

Every state's voter rolls should be purged of those who are ineligible to vote.

And of course Trump and cheating Republicans get to determine who those "ineligible" voters are.

As I said, the whole point of this bill is to prevent Democrats from voting.

 

[Concerned American]

I guess you aren't aware that Trump wants access to every states' voting data using this SAVE Act.

I guess you're unaware that Trump can already do that. LOL The SAVE act is just amending the Voter Registration Act of 1993--I know before you were born. You do know who was potus and what party had power in 1993 don't you? LOL

Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act​

2025 proposed US bill
The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, also known as the SAVE Act or SAVE America Act, is a proposed United States law that would require "documentary proof of United States citizenship" to register to vote in federal elections. Continued in Wikipedia

Long title	To amend the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 to require proof of United States citizenship to register an individual to vote in elections for Federal office, and for other purposes.
Acronyms (colloquial)	SAVE Act, SAVE America Act
Acts amended	National Voter Registration Act of 1993

 

[JGalt]

So why do you whine about Democrats not wanting a voter ID when you don't want a voter ID?

Who said they wanted to institute some kind of dedicate "voter ID"? All anyone wants is a valid state or federal-issued ID card, a valid unexpired driver's license, or an unexpired US passport.


"The SAVE Act (Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act) is a piece of federal legislation that has gained significant traction in 2026. While its primary goal is to ensure only U.S. citizens vote in federal elections, it does so by creating strict new identification requirements at two different stages: Registration and Voting.

If passed, it would represent a major shift in how Americans prove their identity to participate in elections. Here is how it addresses identification:

1.​

The most significant change is at the point of registration. Currently, most states allow you to register by "attesting" (signing a legal oath) that you are a citizen. The SAVE Act would replace this with a requirement for physical proof.

What counts: A U.S. Passport, a birth certificate, or a Naturalization Certificate.

The Problem for Students: Standard driver’s licenses often do not count for registration under this act because most state licenses do not explicitly denote citizenship status.

In-Person Requirement: The act generally requires this documentation to be presented in person at an election office, which could effectively eliminate the ability to register via simple mail-in forms or online portals unless those systems are heavily overhauled.

2. Strict Photo ID (At the Polls)​

The act also mandates a "strict photo ID" standard for the actual act of voting in federal elections.


Valid IDs: It limits acceptable identification to government-issued photo IDs that specifically confirm U.S. citizenship.

Student IDs: In many versions of the bill, college IDs would no longer be accepted at the polls for federal elections unless they meet very specific federal criteria, which most currently do not.

Mail-in Voting: If you vote by mail (common for out-of-state students), the act would require you to include a photocopy of your photo ID with your ballot.

3. Name Match Requirements​

The SAVE Act is particularly strict about name consistency.


If the name on your proof of citizenship (e.g., birth certificate) doesn't exactly match your current photo ID (due to marriage, adoption, or a legal name change), you may be required to provide additional documentation, such as a marriage license or a court order, to prove you are the same person."