Zone1 truth about Elohim

[Stryder50]

For consideration and reference sake;
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Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים, romanized: ʾĚlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]) is a Hebrew word meaning "gods". Although the word is plural in form, in the Hebrew Bible it usually refers to a single deity,[1][2][3][4] particularly (but not always) the God of Israel.[1][2][3][4][5][6] At other times it refers to deities in the plural.[1][2][3][4][5][6]

Morphologically, the word is the plural form of the word eloah[1][2][4][7][8][9] and related to el. It is cognate to the word 'l-h-m which is found in Ugaritic, where it is used as the pantheon for Canaanite gods, the children of El, and conventionally vocalized as "Elohim". Most uses of the term Elohim in the later Hebrew text imply a view that is at least monolatrist at the time of writing, and such usage (in the singular), as a proper title for the supreme deity, is generally not considered to be synonymous with the term elohim, "gods" (plural, simple noun). Rabbinic scholar Maimonides wrote that the various other usages are commonly understood to be homonyms.[10]

One theory suggests that the notion of divinity underwent radical changes in the early period of Israelite identity and development of Ancient Hebrew religion. In this view, the ambiguity of the term elohim is the result of such changes, cast in terms of "vertical translatability", i.e. the re-interpretation of the gods of the earliest recalled period as the national god of monolatrism as it emerged in the 7th to 6th century BCE in the Kingdom of Judah and during the Babylonian captivity, and further in terms of monotheism by the emergence of Rabbinical Judaism in the 2nd century CE.[11]
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Elohim - Wikipedia

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The Nephilim (/ˈnɛfɪˌlɪm/; Hebrew: נְפִילִים Nəfīlīm) are mysterious beings or people in the Hebrew Bible who are large and strong.[1] The word Nephilim is loosely translated as giants in some translations of the Hebrew Bible, but left untranslated in others. Jewish explanations interpret them as hybrid sons of fallen angels.

The main reference to them is in Genesis, but the passage is ambiguous and the identity of the Nephilim is disputed.[1][2] According to the Book of Numbers 13:33, they later inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan.

A similar or identical biblical Hebrew term, read as "Nephilim" by some scholars, or as the word "fallen" by others, appears in the Book of Ezekiel 32:27.[3][4]
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In the Hebrew Bible, there are three interconnected passages referencing the nephilim. Two of them come from the Pentateuch. The first occurrence is in Genesis 6:1–4, immediately before the account of Noah's Ark. Genesis 6:4 reads as follows:

The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.[14]

Where the Jewish Publication Society translation[14] simply transliterated the Hebrew nephilim as "Nephilim", the King James Version translated the term as "giants."[15]

The nature of the Nephilim is complicated by the ambiguity of Genesis 6:4, which leaves it unclear whether they are the "sons of God" or their offspring who are the "mighty men of old, men of renown." Richard Hess takes it to mean that the Nephilim are the offspring,[16] as does P. W. Coxon.[17]
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Nephilim - Wikipedia

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Implications and further explanations in next post.

 

[Stryder50]

Another essential reference;
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Hebrew (Hebrew alphabet: עִבְרִית‎, ʿĪvrīt (help·info), IPA: [ivˈʁit] or [ʕivˈɾit]; Samaritan script: ࠏࠁࠓࠉࠕ; Paleo-Hebrew script: 𐤏𐤁𐤓‫𐤉𐤕) is a Northwest Semitic language of the Afroasiatic language family. Historically, it is regarded as one of the spoken languages of the Israelites and their longest-surviving descendants: the Jews and Samaritans. It was largely preserved throughout history as the main liturgical language of Judaism (since the Second Temple period) and Samaritanism. Hebrew is the only Canaanite language still spoken today, and serves as the only truly successful example of a dead language that has been revived. It is also one of only two Northwest Semitic languages still in use, with the other being Aramaic.[10][11]

The earliest examples of written Paleo-Hebrew date back to the 10th century BCE.[12] Nearly all of the Hebrew Bible is written in Biblical Hebrew, with much of its present form in the dialect that scholars believe flourished around the 6th century BCE, during the time of the Babylonian captivity. For this reason, Hebrew has been referred to by Jews as Lashon Hakodesh (לָשׁוֹן הַקֹּדֶשׁ‎‎, lit. 'the holy tongue' or 'the tongue [of] holiness') since ancient times. The language was not referred to by the name Hebrew in the Bible, but as Yehudit (transl. 'the language of Judah') or Səpaṯ Kəna'an (transl. "the language of Canaan").[2][note 1] Mishnah Gittin 9:8 refers to the language as Ivrit, meaning Hebrew; however, Mishnah Megillah refers to the language as Ashurit, meaning Assyrian, which is derived from the name of the alphabet used, in contrast to Ivrit, meaning the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet.[13]

Hebrew ceased to be a regular spoken language sometime between 200 and 400 CE, declining in the aftermath of the unsuccessful Bar Kokhba revolt that was carried out against the Roman Empire by the Jews of Judaea.[14][15][note 2] Aramaic and, to a lesser extent, Greek were already in use as international languages, especially among societal elites and immigrants.[17] Hebrew survived into the medieval period as the language of Jewish liturgy, rabbinic literature, intra-Jewish commerce and Jewish poetic literature. With the rise of Zionism in the 19th century, the Hebrew language experienced a full-scale revival as a spoken and literary language, after which it became the main language of the Yishuv in Palestine and subsequently the lingua franca of the State of Israel with official status. According to Ethnologue, Hebrew was spoken by five million people worldwide in 1998;[5] in 2013, it was spoken by over nine million people worldwide.[18] After Israel, the United States has the second-largest Hebrew-speaking population, with approximately 220,000 fluent speakers (see Israeli Americans and Jewish Americans).[19]

Modern Hebrew is the official language of the State of Israel, while pre-revival forms of Hebrew are used for prayer or study in Jewish and Samaritan communities around the world today; the latter group utilizes the Samaritan dialect as their liturgical tongue. As a non-first language, it is studied mostly by non-Israeli Jews and students in Israel, by archaeologists and linguists specializing in the Middle East and its civilizations, and by theologians in Christian seminaries.
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History​

Hebrew belongs to the Canaanite group of languages. Canaanite languages are a branch of the Northwest Semitic family of languages.[26]

According to Avraham Ben-Yosef, Hebrew flourished as a spoken language in the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah during the period from about 1200 to 586 BCE.[27] Scholars debate the degree to which Hebrew was a spoken vernacular in ancient times following the Babylonian exile when the predominant international language in the region was Old Aramaic.

Hebrew was extinct as a colloquial language by Late Antiquity, but it continued to be used as a literary language, especially in Spain, as the language of commerce between Jews of different native languages, and as the liturgical language of Judaism, evolving various dialects of literary Medieval Hebrew, until its revival as a spoken language in the late 19th century.[28][29]

Oldest Hebrew inscriptions​

Further information: Paleo-Hebrew alphabet and Ancient Hebrew writings



The Shebna Inscription, from the tomb of a royal steward found in Siloam, dates to the 7th century BCE.

In July 2008, Israeli archaeologist Yossi Garfinkel discovered a ceramic shard at Khirbet Qeiyafa that he claimed may be the earliest Hebrew writing yet discovered, dating from around 3,000 years ago.[30] Hebrew University archaeologist Amihai Mazar said that the inscription was "proto-Canaanite" but cautioned that "The differentiation between the scripts, and between the languages themselves in that period, remains unclear," and suggested that calling the text Hebrew might be going too far.[31]

The Gezer calendar also dates back to the 10th century BCE at the beginning of the Monarchic period, the traditional time of the reign of David and Solomon. Classified as Archaic Biblical Hebrew, the calendar presents a list of seasons and related agricultural activities. The Gezer calendar (named after the city in whose proximity it was found) is written in an old Semitic script, akin to the Phoenician one that, through the Greeks and Etruscans, later became the Roman script. The Gezer calendar is written without any vowels, and it does not use consonants to imply vowels even in the places in which later Hebrew spelling requires them.
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Writing system​

Main articles: Hebrew alphabet and Hebrew braille



Hebrew alphabet

Users of the language write Modern Hebrew from right to left using the Hebrew alphabet - an "impure" abjad, or consonant-only script, of 22 letters. The ancient paleo-Hebrew alphabet resembles those used for Canaanite and Phoenician.[citation needed] Modern scripts derive from the "square" letter form, known as Ashurit (Assyrian), which developed from the Aramaic script. A cursive Hebrew script is used in handwriting: the letters tend to appear more circular in form when written in cursive, and sometimes vary markedly from their printed equivalents. The medieval version of the cursive script forms the basis of another style, known as Rashi script. When necessary, vowels are indicated by diacritic marks above or below the letter representing the syllabic onset, or by use of matres lectionis, which are consonantal letters used as vowels. Further diacritics may serve to indicate variations in the pronunciation of the consonants (e.g. bet/vet, shin/sin); and, in some contexts, to indicate the punctuation, accentuation and musical rendition of Biblical texts (see Hebrew cantillation).
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Hebrew language - Wikipedia

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[Stryder50]

Pulling a few strings together ...
Hebrew appears to be the language in which Genesis, and/or the Old Testament were first written. Some scholars have suggested that this first placing of Jewish tradition and history into written form would be around the 600s BCE. During and after their period of captivity in Babylon.

It would seem that during that captivity is where much of the first chapters of Genesis came from since it appears to be very close to the content of the writings and records of the Sumer~Akkad~Babylonia culture/civilizations. Essentially one and the same, the names distinguish the dominate region(city/capital) ruling at the times. The Enuma Elish;

Enuma Elish: The Oldest Written Creation Myth - Learn Religions​

Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text​

Enuma Elish - New World Encyclopedia​

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It is there that we first encounter the person of ;
Ut-napishtim or Uta-na’ishtim (in the Epic of Gilgamesh), Atra-Hasis, Ziusudra (Sumerian), Xisuthros (Ξίσουθρος, in Berossus) (Akkadian: 𒌓𒍣) is a character in ancient Mesopotamian mythology. He is tasked by the god Enki (Akkadian: Ea) to create a giant ship to be called Preserver of Life in preparation of a giant flood that would wipe out all life. The character appears in the Epic of Gilgamesh.[1]
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Utnapishtim - Wikipedia

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Known in Genesis of the Old Testament as "Noah of the Ark".
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Note I will sometimes use the term Sumer to refer to and include the other civilzations of this same culture of the Mesopotamia region (Akkad & Babylonia)(SAB= Sumer/Akkad/Babylonia: if others prefer).

 

[Stryder50]

What the Old Testament mentions as the Elohim is to the SAB the same as their Annunaki, or Gods. Note that the creation cosmology of SAB has humans (homo sapiens sapiens) the result of Annunaki intervention in the evolution of pre-human hominiods which included mixing of the Annunaki DNA with pre-human DNA creating a blended species, nominally half of each. A hybrid of sorts. This could be considered a leap beyond normal evolutionary process, or a "jump start" of sorts. Also might explain the "missing link" concept.

Note that human DNA consists two sets of 23 chromosomes, one set from the mother and the other from the father. Human closest "relatives" in the animal kingdom, the simians/apes: chimps, orangutans, gorillas; have two sets of 24 chromosomes.

This is where "Adam and Eve" are likely allegory for the first of such hybrids produced. Some researchers have made a further distinction as the first of such hybrids able to reproduce themselves without further Annunaki involvement/intervention

With the Hebrew Old Testament being a sometimes garbled/distorted take on the SAB creation accounts, the term Nephilim gains some ambiguity. It could be another term for the "sons of God/gods" or the term for the offspring from their mating with human females. Since such might up the amount of Annunaki DNA in the offspring the terms could be interchangeable.

Note also that this implies that the Annunaki/Elohim/Nephilim must also have DNA of two sets of 23 chromosomes that are closely matched to human DNA. Human DNA being about half Annunaki/half 'Earthling'.

SAB cosmology has the Annunaki coming from another, usually distant planet in our Solar System, but another and maybe more probable explanation would be they were inter-stellar colonists here.

See post #4 here for more on the Annunaki.
See post #24 here for maps regards Abraham's origins and travels.

 

[kjw47]

When you get people all riled up about the end of the world, they get nervous, anxiety sets in, people panic, die of heart attacks and all other issues by claiming tomorrow is the end of the world and most will die. That is a huge monumental LIE. Not errors. Yes, people purposely lie concerning God all the time. Especially your scholars. The only ones who think they know Hebrew. And, no, Jesus is not with your teachers. They deny his glory as the Son of God.

The facts prove your error. My teachers have made many corrections through the years. The errors brought in by the house divided that will not stand, plus their own errors they have corrected. No domestic would have a clue if something was error, but to correct ones own errors proves 100% truth is exactly what they want. The JW,s give Jesus lots of glory and honor, we bow in obesiance to Gods appointed king. But know 100% Jesus has a God like we do and does not get worship.

 

[Indeependent]

Elohim translates--Supreme one or mighty one
Elijah translates-El is Yhwh
Israel translates-prince of EL
Angels and judges were called Elohim= proof it is not a name but a title
Psalm 109:26= Help me YHWH my Elohim

Those claiming it to be a name are wrong.

Not name, attributes.

 

[Cougarbear]

The facts prove your error. My teachers have made many corrections through the years. The errors brought in by the house divided that will not stand, plus their own errors they have corrected. No domestic would have a clue if something was error, but to correct ones own errors proves 100% truth is exactly what they want. The JW,s give Jesus lots of glory and honor, we bow in obesiance to Gods appointed king. But know 100% Jesus has a God like we do and does not get worship.

No, here is how your second sentence actually is: "My teachers have made many purposefully evil changes to fool and deceive the people out of their money so they won't believe in the Son of God through the years."
Yes, JW's give lots of glory and honor to Jesus Christ but deny the power there of. 2Timothy 3:5 - 7, "Having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. " That's the JW's for everyone to know. They deny the power and authority of Jesus Christ.

 

[surada]

For consideration and reference sake;
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Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים, romanized: ʾĚlōhīm: [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]) is a Hebrew word meaning "gods". Although the word is plural in form, in the Hebrew Bible it usually refers to a single deity,[1][2][3][4] particularly (but not always) the God of Israel.[1][2][3][4][5][6] At other times it refers to deities in the plural.[1][2][3][4][5][6]

Morphologically, the word is the plural form of the word eloah[1][2][4][7][8][9] and related to el. It is cognate to the word 'l-h-m which is found in Ugaritic, where it is used as the pantheon for Canaanite gods, the children of El, and conventionally vocalized as "Elohim". Most uses of the term Elohim in the later Hebrew text imply a view that is at least monolatrist at the time of writing, and such usage (in the singular), as a proper title for the supreme deity, is generally not considered to be synonymous with the term elohim, "gods" (plural, simple noun). Rabbinic scholar Maimonides wrote that the various other usages are commonly understood to be homonyms.[10]

One theory suggests that the notion of divinity underwent radical changes in the early period of Israelite identity and development of Ancient Hebrew religion. In this view, the ambiguity of the term elohim is the result of such changes, cast in terms of "vertical translatability", i.e. the re-interpretation of the gods of the earliest recalled period as the national god of monolatrism as it emerged in the 7th to 6th century BCE in the Kingdom of Judah and during the Babylonian captivity, and further in terms of monotheism by the emergence of Rabbinical Judaism in the 2nd century CE.[11]
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Elohim - Wikipedia

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The Nephilim (/ˈnɛfɪˌlɪm/; Hebrew: נְפִילִים Nəfīlīm) are mysterious beings or people in the Hebrew Bible who are large and strong.[1] The word Nephilim is loosely translated as giants in some translations of the Hebrew Bible, but left untranslated in others. Jewish explanations interpret them as hybrid sons of fallen angels.

The main reference to them is in Genesis, but the passage is ambiguous and the identity of the Nephilim is disputed.[1][2] According to the Book of Numbers 13:33, they later inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan.

A similar or identical biblical Hebrew term, read as "Nephilim" by some scholars, or as the word "fallen" by others, appears in the Book of Ezekiel 32:27.[3][4]
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In the Hebrew Bible, there are three interconnected passages referencing the nephilim. Two of them come from the Pentateuch. The first occurrence is in Genesis 6:1–4, immediately before the account of Noah's Ark. Genesis 6:4 reads as follows:


Where the Jewish Publication Society translation[14] simply transliterated the Hebrew nephilim as "Nephilim", the King James Version translated the term as "giants."[15]

The nature of the Nephilim is complicated by the ambiguity of Genesis 6:4, which leaves it unclear whether they are the "sons of God" or their offspring who are the "mighty men of old, men of renown." Richard Hess takes it to mean that the Nephilim are the offspring,[16] as does P. W. Coxon.[17]
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Nephilim - Wikipedia

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Implications and further explanations in next post.

Nephilim is also plural. Thanks.

 

[Cougarbear]

Nephilim is also plural. Thanks.

Elohim, singular Eloah, (Hebrew: God), the God of Israel in the Old Testament. A plural of majesty, the term Elohim—though sometimes used for other deities, such as the Moabite god Chemosh, the Sidonian goddess Astarte, and also for other majestic beings such as angels, kings, judges (the Old Testament shofeṭim), and the Messiah—is usually employed in the Old Testament for the one and only God of Israel, whose personal name was revealed to Moses as YHWH, or Yahweh (q.v.). When referring to Yahweh, elohim very often is accompanied by the article ha-, to mean, in combination, “the God,” and sometimes with a further identification Elohim ḥayyim, meaning “the living God.”Though Elohim is plural in form, it is understood in the singular sense. Thus, in Genesis the words, “In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth,” Elohim is monotheistic in connotation, though its grammatical structure seems polytheistic. The Israelites probably borrowed the Canaanite plural noun Elohim and made it singular in meaning in their cultic practices and theological reflections. - Elohim | Hebrew god

The Hebrew Name for God - Elohim

The Hebrew Name for God - Elohim and Elohei Constructs.

www.hebrew4christians.com

Just to note, whether Elohim refers to plurality of God (three) or not, there is only one Elohim or only one Father. Jehovah God is the Son and not the same as Elohim.

 

[kjw47]

No, here is how your second sentence actually is: "My teachers have made many purposefully evil changes to fool and deceive the people out of their money so they won't believe in the Son of God through the years."
Yes, JW's give lots of glory and honor to Jesus Christ but deny the power there of. 2Timothy 3:5 - 7, "Having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. " That's the JW's for everyone to know. They deny the power and authority of Jesus Christ.

Thats in your deceived thinking process, not in reality. My teachers believe Jesus-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Paul did as well-He taught exactly what Jesus taught-Coll 1:3-Eph 1:13,17, so did Peter-1Peter 1:3--so did the psalmist-Psalm 45:7--- so someone is in error, its not those 4 its the house divided that will not stand who are the deceivers.

 

[Cougarbear]

Thats in your deceived thinking process, not in reality. My teachers believe Jesus-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Paul did as well-He taught exactly what Jesus taught-Coll 1:3-Eph 1:13,17, so did Peter-1Peter 1:3--so did the psalmist-Psalm 45:7--- so someone is in error, its not those 4 its the house divided that will not stand who are the deceivers.

You deny that he's the Son of God, the atonement and resurrection. You deny that he is the God of this world. That he is the Redeemer of Israel. Colossians 3:17, And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Your Lord is Jehovah. So, Lord Jesus must be Lord Jehovah. One more proof that Jesus is Jehovah. The Son of God.

 

[kjw47]

You deny that he's the Son of God, the atonement and resurrection. You deny that he is the God of this world. That he is the Redeemer of Israel. Colossians 3:17, And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Your Lord is Jehovah. So, Lord Jesus must be Lord Jehovah. One more proof that Jesus is Jehovah. The Son of God.

I know 100% he is the son of God-not God. The word LORD does not belong in the OT. Gods personal name does. By satans will it was removed to mislead. So God is not called LORD in reality, there are spots in the OT that call God sovereign Lord.
The LORD said to my Lord( Jesus)--actually reads YHWH said to my Lord(Jesus) proving 100% he is not YHWH.

 

[surada]

Elohim, singular Eloah, (Hebrew: God), the God of Israel in the Old Testament. A plural of majesty, the term Elohim—though sometimes used for other deities, such as the Moabite god Chemosh, the Sidonian goddess Astarte, and also for other majestic beings such as angels, kings, judges (the Old Testament shofeṭim), and the Messiah—is usually employed in the Old Testament for the one and only God of Israel, whose personal name was revealed to Moses as YHWH, or Yahweh (q.v.). When referring to Yahweh, elohim very often is accompanied by the article ha-, to mean, in combination, “the God,” and sometimes with a further identification Elohim ḥayyim, meaning “the living God.”Though Elohim is plural in form, it is understood in the singular sense. Thus, in Genesis the words, “In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth,” Elohim is monotheistic in connotation, though its grammatical structure seems polytheistic. The Israelites probably borrowed the Canaanite plural noun Elohim and made it singular in meaning in their cultic practices and theological reflections. - Elohim | Hebrew god

The Hebrew Name for God - Elohim

The Hebrew Name for God - Elohim and Elohei Constructs.

www.hebrew4christians.com

Just to note, whether Elohim refers to plurality of God (three) or not, there is only one Elohim or only one Father. Jehovah God is the Son and not the same as Elohim.

You do know that even Jewish scholars are studying the earlier Ugarit texts.

 

[Cougarbear]

I know 100% he is the son of God-not God. The word LORD does not belong in the OT. Gods personal name does. By satans will it was removed to mislead. So God is not called LORD in reality, there are spots in the OT that call God sovereign Lord.
The LORD said to my Lord( Jesus)--actually reads YHWH said to my Lord(Jesus) proving 100% he is not YHWH.

There is nothing that says Lord Jesus. It says Lord God. It’s you that have mislead and deceived by following Satan. If Jesus is the Son of God then he has God qualities above and beyond any other human being. “If you have seen me you have seen my Father.” You can say Son of God or God the Son. One Godhead. God is a title. Just like President and Vice-President.

 

[Cougarbear]

You do know that even Jewish scholars are studying the earlier Ugarit texts.

So?

 

[surada]

So?

Ugaritic - Wikipedia

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[konradv]

plural only when used for the false trinity gods served back in the OT days.

What makes one trinity god false and another, not?

 

[surada]

What makes one trinity god false and another, not?

Jehovah's witnesses.

 

[Cougarbear]

Ugaritic - Wikipedia

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It's funny how people sometimes go to great lengths to understand Godly writings when all they really need is a present day prophet or apostle to answer their questions. For our prophets lead and guide us in these the latter days to know the truth of the Biblical writings.

 

[surada]

It's funny how people sometimes go to great lengths to understand Godly writings when all they really need is a present day prophet or apostle to answer their questions. For our prophets lead and guide us in these the latter days to know the truth of the Biblical writings.

Lots of charlatans claim to be prophets. They are very common on television. The Ugarit texts are written in four languages and they predate Adam and Eve and Noah's flood so they are helpful to serious scholars who study Hebrew and Aramaic.