Zone1 Why can't there be a serious intellectual discusion about Jesus' gender and sexuality?

[shimon]

not true: theirs and judaism are religions of servitude and denial ...

the reference is to the 1st century events repudiation of judaism's false commandments, hereditary idolatry - religion of apartheid and are what jesus taught - liberation theology, self determination.

- reluctantly present in the christian bible.

at least give credit where credit is due.

Breezewood you are a one trick pony… Keep in mind when we left Egypt we left “De Nile” behind us on our way out Jesus however did the opposite and fled there… Or at least one of the guys his compiled character is based on….Wink

 

[shimon]

you are a fool and not to bright.

At least he is not a “ fool for Christ” and is not following the brightness of the morning star or Lucifer the fallen Angel

 

[Crepitus]

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Someone was offended by this artwork someone released of a trans Jesus, but they weren't offended by the real travesty of the Sun cross (Baal cross) symbol in it.
I ask you all why can't the artist have this discussion if there is good evidence he might have a secret worth sharing.

Actually it's a valid discussion as to the Gender of 1 of the trinity of characters used for the Jesus image and combined story.
Resarch the female skeleton of Jesus, the head is hiding in Neuillville --France
At one time The Vatican insisted they found the tomb of Jesus.About the story it was researched by British biochemist Anthony Harris who is formerly from the TRINITY College in Dublin (so non biased or more biased towards the Church). He saw many possibilities that Jesus was a woman with turners syndrom, because only a woman with this condition is known to sweat blood (Luke 22:43-44)
Around the time of the Inquisition
There were found the catheri relics one labeled "Caput LVIII" contained the skull of a woman and this was sworn to be the flesh and blood tomb of Jesus.Josephus reported Jesus to be a mere 5 foot tall. Other history reports Jesus to be slightly built and without beard.
These facts can be read in the old Omni magazine Dec 1988 issue or his book titled the Sacred Virgin and the Holy Whore.
Hey I don't write these things or make them up, I just leave open all possiblities for us all to ponder, I basically just report what I see and what you all miss, even as connections appear to support these possibilities.
The relic:
A great head of gilded silver, most beautiful, and constituting theimage of a woman. Inside were two head bones, wrapped in a cloth of white linen, with another red cloth around it. A label was attached, on which was written the legend Caput LVIIIm. The bones inside were those of a rather small woman."

Other evidence would be the fact that when they discovered the bones to be of a woman that is the time period where the forged shroud of an over 6'
bearded man thst magically appeared on the scene.

Fact: Jesus relationships reveal it's possibility:
"A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of Kerioth, According to this seeminglyauthentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life, including relations with John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.
Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Fact: the only historical person named Jesus was in 70 or 90 ad and was a name used for a woman.
Joshua (Hosea) is used for a man.

Fact: the truth Gospels shows us the original trinity
at that time was Father- Mother -Son,
Jesus was therefore both man and Woman.

Fact: The church is clothed in the lady worship.

Fact:they claim the central source Q used to write the gospels came from a woman.

Fact: in the Book of Thomas he speaks of the day body parts will be changed and man made female and female into men, but why?
How would he know unless he was transformed?
Which brings us to:
Fact: He always spoke about being transformed.

Discuss: was Jesus like Chaz Bono, a woman living as a man, or like woman characters in history (Joan of Arc) who were mischaracterized & posed as men to compete in a male dominant society?
*(in my best Seinfeld voice: "not that there was anything wrong with that")

Maybe we should concentrate on admitting he wasn't a white guy first?

I mean, baby steps, mang.

 

[shimon]

That b******* doesn't work on me joo fag

You are definitely a fine example of what I was talking about…. Tell me does that go for your saviour Jesus as well since he was supposedly born and raised as someone from the Jewish faith…Is he a Jew fag too…

 

[zaangalewa]

So this is what educated Jews call “intellectual discussion”?

Why do you think HaShev is a Jew? Then he woud "discuss" about the gender and sex of Moses or Abraham or Adam and Eve. Why should a Jew like to discuss about the gender and sexuality of Jesus the Christ? The Jew Jesus was executed from the Romans under the accusation to be "the king of the Jews" or with other words: to be the worst Jewish rebell and freedom fighter.

 

[zaangalewa]

there are only 2 genders/sexs,,

male and female,,

discussion over

Not really. Indeed it exists only the sexes male and female. For sure eists no third sex on Earth. But nevertheless sexuality is a much wider theme with a wide spectrum of positive but also some negative manifestations. Do you know for example that sexuality often is not the reason when a man rapes a woman? Astonishing, isn't it? But this also measn: A man who rapes a woman is not only a beasty instinct machine who likes to spread his genetic material. In this case he would not murder his victim for example. In former times such murderers had been called "werewolf" because no one was able to understand how satanic a human beings is able to be.

 

[zaangalewa]

progressive hunter

Every idiot is able to use an emoji. But I am not interested in the "opinion" of idiots. Specially if someone is using an emoji while I still not finished what I said.

Many things which are discussed under sexuality and gender have not really something to do with sexuality and "gender". Gender is by the way a word which not exists in my own language.

 

[BackAgain]

progressive hunter

Every idiot is able to use an emoji. But I am not interested in the "opinion" of idiots. Specially if someone is using an emoji while I still not finihished what I said.

 

[progressive hunter]

progressive hunter

Every idiot is able to use an emoji. But I am not interested in the "opinion" of idiots. Specially if someone is using an emoji while I still not finished what I said.

Many things which are discussed under sexuality and gender have not really something to do with sexuality and "gender". Gender is by the way a word which not exists in my own language.

go try and milk a bull and get back to me,,

 

[zaangalewa]

progressive hunter

Stupid people like you make serios discussions impossible. Werwolfs had been by the way in the beginning of the murdern - ah sorry: modern - times really hunted like animals. I am no werewolf, superidiot. Hunt the moon.

To everyone else here: "Bye bye".

 

[BackAgain]

progressive hunter

Stupid people like you make serios discussions impossible. Werwolfs had been by the way in the beginning of the murdern - ah sorry: modern - times really hunted like animals. I am no werewolf, superidiot. Hunt the moon.

To everyone else here: "Bye bye".

 

[HaShev]

His father taught him how to be a carpenter.

Yeshu of 100bc Carpenter Father Joseph but not biological father which was Panderas the Roman soldier (this is why Mark states Joseph had a mind to divorce her quietly as to not get her stoned. It's also why the Roman church favors the Half Roman christ figure.
The Galilean or the Capernaum Figure was the fisherman, hence the combined Jesus having 2 professions, 2 persecution blames and types of sentencing, 2 descriptions, 2 ages lived to, 2 heights described, 2 appearnces described, 3 hometowns, and of course needing a new name.

 

[HaShev]

But we should remain quite when a Jew attacks Jesus right?

But if that "attack" is using your own scripture or historical corrections, then it's not an attack (except to your ego and since your replies can't attack your own writtings you are forced (via affiliation pride and group social behavior) & to survive that group has to attack the messenger (ad hominem replies and hate propaganda).
Let me use an example: your reply is liken to Dems saying Trump is gonna retaliate against them and use lawfare (for literally trying to end corruption and get the law to finally do it's job the dems try to force dupes into thinking they will be the victims of what is actually proper justice for their crimes not revenge)
If you keep deflecting blame like they do, then the corrupt system never goes aways and fake news prevails and we never heal and we end up living in a bizzarro world where everything is opposite what it could and should be .

 

[RetiredGySgt]

But if that "attack" is using your own scripture or historical corrections, then it's not an attack (except to your ego and since your replies can't attack your own writtings you are forced (via affiliation pride and group social behavior) & to survive that group has to attack the messenger (ad hominem replies and hate propaganda).
Let me use an example: your reply is liken to Dems saying Trump is gonna retaliate against them and use lawfare (for literally trying to end corruption and get the law to finally do it's job the dems try to force dupes into thinking they will be the victims of what is actually proper justice for their crimes not revenge)
If you keep deflecting blame like they do, then the corrupt system never goes aways and fake news prevails and we never heal and we end up living in a bizzarro world where everything is opposite what it could and should be .

Claiming Jesus was not a man or was homosexual is not using scripture retard

 

[zaangalewa]

Jesus is not a poster here. ...

Hmmm ... would we all be alive without Jesus and his father and the holy spirit? ... So perhaps he is in a way here some are able to see or to sense while others do not do so. I would not put my hand in the fire for this statement.

Neverthelless I know what you mean and you are right: No one should think to be the allknowing god on his own. And this often do atheists.

 

[zaangalewa]

HaShev

Why do you give to others the imagination you would be a Jew? You are no Jew, aren't you?

Do you know who is a Jew? This man here is a Jew:

“A Jew goes to the butcher, points to a ham and says: 'I'd like a piece of that fish. The butcher says: 'But that's pork. The Jew replies: 'I didn't ask you what the fish is called, I just wanted a piece of it'.”

And we all have to thank God for such Jews because it is said that the world would end if all Jews without exception kept their hundreds of commandments on a Sabbath. So this fish eater gets a place of honor in our little fishing club “Catholic Church” because he so selflessly eats a ham fish.

 

[zaangalewa]

Nice story. But it's nevertheless something else always to press this "fake news"- button on reason to call other people automatically liars who do not share the own absurde opinions.

By the way, the “thumbs up” “thumbs down” rating does not come from the Roman Empire but from bad American movies about this empire.

 

[zaangalewa]

At least he is not a “ fool for Christ” and is not following the brightness of the morning star or Lucifer the fallen Angel

To use the name "Lucifer" for the challenger is a totally absurde nonsense. Always was nonsense. The "morning star" calls the sun to shine. This is a totally positive picture which is also used for Jesus on his own. Nowhere in the Old and New Testament says anyone anything about that the morning star could be anything what we could interpret in a negative destructive way.

 

[BreezeWood]

Who was his daddy are you sure .. Be carefull here now who you claim…..

joseph and mary never quivered in the love for eachother everyone new from the beginning their courage to dismiss the evils of judaism, moses and their false commandments written to persecute and victimize the innocent.

they were protected by the heavens and their was nothing - shimon - could do about their love than hopelessly deny their existence or that of their child.

 

[hobelim]

Why do you think HaShev is a Jew? Then he woud "discuss" about the gender and sex of Moses or Abraham or Adam and Eve. Why should a Jew like to discuss about the gender and sexuality of Jesus the Christ?

Hashev is an actor and lying fraud who purjures himself in the name of God by claiming to be the messiah which compels him to denigrate the only messiah there will ever be, Jesus.