Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[sealybobo]

So the wall is the only way? Really? Since when? Since trump said so?

The so-called "alternatives" that you propose are far less effective and more expensive. Yet you whine about the cost of the wall. You don't really want border security. You want more illegals to enter the country. As I said, you're a ******* douchebag.

Now you know that's not true. I don't want illegals coming here. We've been railing about this at least since 2006. Sorry but your party is split on this one.

I happen to agree with you stupid! I just don't think a wall is the answer. It's boondoggle.

1. You don't want illegals here you want them to legally freely flood our country with low wage no skilled workers as many as want to come. They're illegal because we don't need them and we don't want them.
2. no wall means we have to pick them up try them in court and house them until their hearing and deportation. stopping them with a wall means we don't have to do any of those things.

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

 

[danielpalos]

The so-called "alternatives" that you propose are far less effective and more expensive. Yet you whine about the cost of the wall. You don't really want border security. You want more illegals to enter the country. As I said, you're a ******* douchebag.

Now you know that's not true. I don't want illegals coming here. We've been railing about this at least since 2006. Sorry but your party is split on this one.

I happen to agree with you stupid! I just don't think a wall is the answer. It's boondoggle.

1. You don't want illegals here you want them to legally freely flood our country with low wage no skilled workers as many as want to come. They're illegal because we don't need them and we don't want them.
2. no wall means we have to pick them up try them in court and house them until their hearing and deportation. stopping them with a wall means we don't have to do any of those things.

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

There is no actual immigration clause in our federal Constitution and employers can usually afford to hire counsel.

 

[SandSquid]

The so-called "alternatives" that you propose are far less effective and more expensive. Yet you whine about the cost of the wall. You don't really want border security. You want more illegals to enter the country. As I said, you're a ******* douchebag.

Now you know that's not true. I don't want illegals coming here. We've been railing about this at least since 2006. Sorry but your party is split on this one.

I happen to agree with you stupid! I just don't think a wall is the answer. It's boondoggle.

1. You don't want illegals here you want them to legally freely flood our country with low wage no skilled workers as many as want to come. They're illegal because we don't need them and we don't want them.
2. no wall means we have to pick them up try them in court and house them until their hearing and deportation. stopping them with a wall means we don't have to do any of those things.

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

 

[sealybobo]

Now you know that's not true. I don't want illegals coming here. We've been railing about this at least since 2006. Sorry but your party is split on this one.

I happen to agree with you stupid! I just don't think a wall is the answer. It's boondoggle.

1. You don't want illegals here you want them to legally freely flood our country with low wage no skilled workers as many as want to come. They're illegal because we don't need them and we don't want them.
2. no wall means we have to pick them up try them in court and house them until their hearing and deportation. stopping them with a wall means we don't have to do any of those things.

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It’s amazing how similar Republicans today are to liberals in 2006. Remember back then when we were complaining about illegal employers Republicans who are programmed to argue with us no matter what were saying they were just here doing jobs Americans wouldn’t do. Or do you want to pay more to have your grass cut they asked. I have forgotten their flip flop.

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of the GOP's potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.

 

[sealybobo]

Now you know that's not true. I don't want illegals coming here. We've been railing about this at least since 2006. Sorry but your party is split on this one.

I happen to agree with you stupid! I just don't think a wall is the answer. It's boondoggle.

1. You don't want illegals here you want them to legally freely flood our country with low wage no skilled workers as many as want to come. They're illegal because we don't need them and we don't want them.
2. no wall means we have to pick them up try them in court and house them until their hearing and deportation. stopping them with a wall means we don't have to do any of those things.

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It's weird when I start posting all this knowledge Republicans usually stop replying back.

I'm reading this article I posted and there is so much great information about how things were in the 2000's when Republicans were defending illegals. And today they are claiming we are defending illegals just because we don't want to build a wall. Bush wanted a wall/fence too back then. It was a stupid idea then and it's a stupid idea now. It won't work. But that's all Republicans will talk about because they don't want to do what works.

Here is more interesting shit I found in that article.

Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)

When labor markets are tight, wages go up. When labor markets are awash in workers willing to work at the bottom of the pay scale, unskilled and semi-skilled wages overall will decrease and when the cost of labor goes down, the result usually isn't a decrease in prices, but, instead, an increase in corporate and CEO profits. This is because the marketplace sets prices, but the cost of labor helps set profits. For example, when Nike began manufacturing shoes in Third World countries with labor costs below US labor costs, it didn't lead to $15 Nikes - their price held, and even increased, because the market would bear it. Instead, that reduction in labor costs led to Nike CEO Phil Knight becoming a multi-billionaire.)

 

[bripat9643]

1. Renovate land ports of entry, and staff them properly

The problem is between the ports of entry, moron. You obviously don't want to do a thing about that.

2. Give Border Patrol the proven sensor and communications technology it needs, where it doesn’t raise civil-liberties concerns for border-zone residents.

How does that physically stop someone from crossing the border? Building the wall is cheaper and far more effective. The best part of the wall is that it prevents illegals from stepping foot in the US and all the associated legal and processing costs of removing them.

3. More screeners and polygraph administrators to reduce hiring times while maintaining scrutiny

What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?

4. Provide inducements to retain existing border security personnel

What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?

5. More search-and-rescue capacity

How does that improve border security?

6. Body cameras

How does that improve border security?

7. More CBP Internal Affairs investigators

How does that improve border security?

8. And finally: comprehensive immigration reform

Amnesty, in other words. That harms our illegal alien problem.

Everything you propose is either more expensive and less effective than building the wall, or it's positively counter productive.

Everything you propose is can only work after the illegal has already entered the country. The process of removing an illegal who has already entered is 10 times more effective and takes infinite time longer than building a wall.

Your claim that you support border security is pure horseshit. You're a sleazy lying open borders traitor.

No one was fooled.

No one says you can’t work on border security

Who’s in charge of the money? We are. Now here’s 1 billion. Go do your thing. There’s lots of things you can do to fight illegal immigration besides build a wall. Start raiding republican businesses

Who do you think you're fooling? Why don't you just say "here's nothing?" Why would we want to do anything before we build the wall? That's your fetish. That's your excuse for doing nothing.

You're a ******* douchebag.

I guess the answer for that would be because Trumps Dept of Homeland security has released their report that the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants come from overstaying visa's and through ports of entry. So rather than hype up a couple thousand in a caravan, why not stop ignoring the hundreds of thousands entering through other means.

Another bullshit lie. 40% come from overstaying their visas. You can't post a single sentence without lying.

Terrorists overwhelmingly are entering the US through the legal border crossing, as do drugs according to the Trump administration.

How do you know this? Another bullshit lie. You're 2:2 now.

Then in the US we have companies that routinely hire illegal immigrants with no penalty. We literally have private companies intentionally weakening our borders by providing a reward for illegal immigrants who get into the country. They have been involved in this push to reward and at times even help illegal immigrants enter the US.

They couldn't get away with that if local mayors didn't prevent our immigration laws from being enforced.

If this is a National Emergency, that those businesses are actively opposing that for decades, what kind of traitors does that make them to the USA? If we say that someone selling drugs from Mexico in the US is bad, why don't we hold them in the same light? Well a big reason why is a lot of them are the Republican base. Farmers. Mar-a-lago. Trump Tower. Heck, models have reported that Trump Modeling when assisting in the trafficking of those humans into the US, told them to lie to immigration officials about the purpose of their visits on their visa's so they could illegally work in the USA. So maybe that explains why he'd want a wall knowing most illegal immigrants don't come in that way. Gotta keep his businesses running somehow.

Douchebag politicians that you support prevent the laws from being enforced.

I'm done reading your post. What's the post when you're such an chronic liar?

 

[bripat9643]

1. Renovate land ports of entry, and staff them properly

The problem is between the ports of entry, moron. You obviously don't want to do a thing about that.

2. Give Border Patrol the proven sensor and communications technology it needs, where it doesn’t raise civil-liberties concerns for border-zone residents.

How does that physically stop someone from crossing the border? Building the wall is cheaper and far more effective. The best part of the wall is that it prevents illegals from stepping foot in the US and all the associated legal and processing costs of removing them.

3. More screeners and polygraph administrators to reduce hiring times while maintaining scrutiny

What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?

4. Provide inducements to retain existing border security personnel

What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?

5. More search-and-rescue capacity

How does that improve border security?

6. Body cameras

How does that improve border security?

7. More CBP Internal Affairs investigators

How does that improve border security?

8. And finally: comprehensive immigration reform

Amnesty, in other words. That harms our illegal alien problem.

Everything you propose is either more expensive and less effective than building the wall, or it's positively counter productive.

Everything you propose is can only work after the illegal has already entered the country. The process of removing an illegal who has already entered is 10 times more effective and takes infinite time longer than building a wall.

Your claim that you support border security is pure horseshit. You're a sleazy lying open borders traitor.

No one was fooled.

No one says you can’t work on border security

Who’s in charge of the money? We are. Now here’s 1 billion. Go do your thing. There’s lots of things you can do to fight illegal immigration besides build a wall. Start raiding republican businesses

Who do you think you're fooling? Why don't you just say "here's nothing?" Why would we want to do anything before we build the wall? That's your fetish. That's your excuse for doing nothing.

You're a ******* douchebag.

I guess the answer for that would be because Trumps Dept of Homeland security has released their report that the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants come from overstaying visa's and through ports of entry. So rather than hype up a couple thousand in a caravan, why not stop ignoring the hundreds of thousands entering through other means.

Terrorists overwhelmingly are entering the US through the legal border crossing, as do drugs according to the Trump administration.

Then in the US we have companies that routinely hire illegal immigrants with no penalty. We literally have private companies intentionally weakening our borders by providing a reward for illegal immigrants who get into the country. They have been involved in this push to reward and at times even help illegal immigrants enter the US. If this is a National Emergency, that those businesses are actively opposing that for decades, what kind of traitors does that make them to the USA? If we say that someone selling drugs from Mexico in the US is bad, why don't we hold them in the same light? Well a big reason why is a lot of them are the Republican base. Farmers. Mar-a-lago. Trump Tower. Heck, models have reported that Trump Modeling when assisting in the trafficking of those humans into the US, told them to lie to immigration officials about the purpose of their visits on their visa's so they could illegally work in the USA. So maybe that explains why he'd want a wall knowing most illegal immigrants don't come in that way. Gotta keep his businesses running somehow.

Some people read the 2018 DEA report on drug smuggling which says "The majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers."

They see that report that "Fentanyl is transported into the United States in parcel packages directly from China or from China through Canada".

That "Traffickers hide cocaine amongst legitimate cargo of commercial trucks or within secret compartments built within passenger vehicles. Traffickers are also increasingly targeting seaports along the East Coast of the United States as law enforcement efforts have increased along the SWB"

That "Traffickers employ various methods and techniques in the concealment of methamphetamine, such as human couriers at ports of entry, commercial flights, parcel services, and commercial buses."

That "Large quantities of foreign-produced marijuana are smuggled into the United States via personally owned vehicles, commercial vehicles, buses, rail systems, subterranean tunnels, small boats, unmanned aerial vehicles/drones, and catapults..."

That "As these liquid spice substances are widely available in China and other Asian and European countries, most U.S.-based traffickers can purchase the drugs already synthesized and have them shipped through mail carriers to perform final processing and packaging"

So when you look at the DEA and DHS and other groups our issues are with

1. Land ports of entry at southern border.
2. Shipping ports on our coastlines.
3. Mail service entry into the US.
4. Boats, drones, catapults and tunnels.
Then maybe comes things a wall will have any effect on.

It's like a guy who wants to get his car running as well and quickly as he can for an emergency, and he has 4 flat tires, a blown engine, no transmission, and his ECU is fried, and he's using his emergency money to replace the stereo. And somehow people choose to be idiots and say that's the way to do it.

Great post. Republicans here will just blow off what you said because it was more than 3 words and they’ll come back with Sanctuary Cities!

We blow it off because he can't post a single sentence that is actually true. He takes after you in that regard.

 

[bripat9643]

Oh, and you can't use a dead person's SIN number either. The Canada Pension Plan pays a death benefit of $2500 for every Canadian who has ever worked, or paid taxes. So of course all deaths are reported to Revenue Canada, and the SIN is flagged as "Deceased".

In the age of super computers, there is no reason not to hold employers financially responsible for hiring illegal immigrants.

Agreed, but's who's preventing that? It sure isn't Republicans.

 

[bripat9643]

Now you know that's not true. I don't want illegals coming here. We've been railing about this at least since 2006. Sorry but your party is split on this one.

I happen to agree with you stupid! I just don't think a wall is the answer. It's boondoggle.

1. You don't want illegals here you want them to legally freely flood our country with low wage no skilled workers as many as want to come. They're illegal because we don't need them and we don't want them.
2. no wall means we have to pick them up try them in court and house them until their hearing and deportation. stopping them with a wall means we don't have to do any of those things.

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

Pretty straight forward. I mean it would be kind of hypocritical for a President who's business empire was built by selling illegal drugs in the US to say he is tough on illegal drug smuggling. Why isn't it hypocritical for a President who's business empire was built on hiring illegal immigrants to say he is tough on illegal immigration?

Think about this. Even if they build the wall and it's a complete failure and doesn't do shit they'll just lie and say it did work. How do I know they will do that?

Trump lies at MAGA rally, gets expertly fact-checked in real-time by Beto O’Rourke

Think about it Republicans. Trump went down to El Paso and lied to you all. And you don't even care.

Why should government do anything if that's the case?

 

[bripat9643]

1. You don't want illegals here you want them to legally freely flood our country with low wage no skilled workers as many as want to come. They're illegal because we don't need them and we don't want them.
2. no wall means we have to pick them up try them in court and house them until their hearing and deportation. stopping them with a wall means we don't have to do any of those things.

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It’s amazing how similar Republicans today are to liberals in 2006. Remember back then when we were complaining about illegal employers Republicans who are programmed to argue with us no matter what were saying they were just here doing jobs Americans wouldn’t do. Or do you want to pay more to have your grass cut they asked. I have forgotten their flip flop.

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of the GOP's potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.

Democrats where saying that, shit for brains. There may have been some douchebag establishment RINO Republicans saying it, but the rank and file have always supported sanctions on employers who hire illegals. It's already against the law for them to hire illegals. However, the Democrat politicians refuse to enforce the law.

 

[sealybobo]

1. Renovate land ports of entry, and staff them properly

The problem is between the ports of entry, moron. You obviously don't want to do a thing about that.

2. Give Border Patrol the proven sensor and communications technology it needs, where it doesn’t raise civil-liberties concerns for border-zone residents.

How does that physically stop someone from crossing the border? Building the wall is cheaper and far more effective. The best part of the wall is that it prevents illegals from stepping foot in the US and all the associated legal and processing costs of removing them.

3. More screeners and polygraph administrators to reduce hiring times while maintaining scrutiny

What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?

4. Provide inducements to retain existing border security personnel

What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?

5. More search-and-rescue capacity

How does that improve border security?

6. Body cameras

How does that improve border security?

7. More CBP Internal Affairs investigators

How does that improve border security?

8. And finally: comprehensive immigration reform

Amnesty, in other words. That harms our illegal alien problem.

Everything you propose is either more expensive and less effective than building the wall, or it's positively counter productive.

Everything you propose is can only work after the illegal has already entered the country. The process of removing an illegal who has already entered is 10 times more effective and takes infinite time longer than building a wall.

Your claim that you support border security is pure horseshit. You're a sleazy lying open borders traitor.

No one was fooled.

No one says you can’t work on border security

Who’s in charge of the money? We are. Now here’s 1 billion. Go do your thing. There’s lots of things you can do to fight illegal immigration besides build a wall. Start raiding republican businesses

Who do you think you're fooling? Why don't you just say "here's nothing?" Why would we want to do anything before we build the wall? That's your fetish. That's your excuse for doing nothing.

You're a ******* douchebag.

I guess the answer for that would be because Trumps Dept of Homeland security has released their report that the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants come from overstaying visa's and through ports of entry. So rather than hype up a couple thousand in a caravan, why not stop ignoring the hundreds of thousands entering through other means.

Another bullshit lie. 40% come from overstaying their visas. You can't post a single sentence without lying.

Terrorists overwhelmingly are entering the US through the legal border crossing, as do drugs according to the Trump administration.

How do you know this? Another bullshit lie. You're 2:2 now.

Then in the US we have companies that routinely hire illegal immigrants with no penalty. We literally have private companies intentionally weakening our borders by providing a reward for illegal immigrants who get into the country. They have been involved in this push to reward and at times even help illegal immigrants enter the US.

They couldn't get away with that if local mayors didn't prevent our immigration laws from being enforced.

If this is a National Emergency, that those businesses are actively opposing that for decades, what kind of traitors does that make them to the USA? If we say that someone selling drugs from Mexico in the US is bad, why don't we hold them in the same light? Well a big reason why is a lot of them are the Republican base. Farmers. Mar-a-lago. Trump Tower. Heck, models have reported that Trump Modeling when assisting in the trafficking of those humans into the US, told them to lie to immigration officials about the purpose of their visits on their visa's so they could illegally work in the USA. So maybe that explains why he'd want a wall knowing most illegal immigrants don't come in that way. Gotta keep his businesses running somehow.

Douchebag politicians that you support prevent the laws from being enforced.

I'm done reading your post. What's the post when you're such an chronic liar?

I'm done taking you seriously. Idiot.

 

[sealybobo]

The problem is between the ports of entry, moron. You obviously don't want to do a thing about that.


How does that physically stop someone from crossing the border? Building the wall is cheaper and far more effective. The best part of the wall is that it prevents illegals from stepping foot in the US and all the associated legal and processing costs of removing them.


What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?


What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?


How does that improve border security?


How does that improve border security?



How does that improve border security?

Amnesty, in other words. That harms our illegal alien problem.

Everything you propose is either more expensive and less effective than building the wall, or it's positively counter productive.

Everything you propose is can only work after the illegal has already entered the country. The process of removing an illegal who has already entered is 10 times more effective and takes infinite time longer than building a wall.

Your claim that you support border security is pure horseshit. You're a sleazy lying open borders traitor.

No one was fooled.

No one says you can’t work on border security

Who’s in charge of the money? We are. Now here’s 1 billion. Go do your thing. There’s lots of things you can do to fight illegal immigration besides build a wall. Start raiding republican businesses

Who do you think you're fooling? Why don't you just say "here's nothing?" Why would we want to do anything before we build the wall? That's your fetish. That's your excuse for doing nothing.

You're a ******* douchebag.

I guess the answer for that would be because Trumps Dept of Homeland security has released their report that the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants come from overstaying visa's and through ports of entry. So rather than hype up a couple thousand in a caravan, why not stop ignoring the hundreds of thousands entering through other means.

Terrorists overwhelmingly are entering the US through the legal border crossing, as do drugs according to the Trump administration.

Then in the US we have companies that routinely hire illegal immigrants with no penalty. We literally have private companies intentionally weakening our borders by providing a reward for illegal immigrants who get into the country. They have been involved in this push to reward and at times even help illegal immigrants enter the US. If this is a National Emergency, that those businesses are actively opposing that for decades, what kind of traitors does that make them to the USA? If we say that someone selling drugs from Mexico in the US is bad, why don't we hold them in the same light? Well a big reason why is a lot of them are the Republican base. Farmers. Mar-a-lago. Trump Tower. Heck, models have reported that Trump Modeling when assisting in the trafficking of those humans into the US, told them to lie to immigration officials about the purpose of their visits on their visa's so they could illegally work in the USA. So maybe that explains why he'd want a wall knowing most illegal immigrants don't come in that way. Gotta keep his businesses running somehow.

Some people read the 2018 DEA report on drug smuggling which says "The majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers."

They see that report that "Fentanyl is transported into the United States in parcel packages directly from China or from China through Canada".

That "Traffickers hide cocaine amongst legitimate cargo of commercial trucks or within secret compartments built within passenger vehicles. Traffickers are also increasingly targeting seaports along the East Coast of the United States as law enforcement efforts have increased along the SWB"

That "Traffickers employ various methods and techniques in the concealment of methamphetamine, such as human couriers at ports of entry, commercial flights, parcel services, and commercial buses."

That "Large quantities of foreign-produced marijuana are smuggled into the United States via personally owned vehicles, commercial vehicles, buses, rail systems, subterranean tunnels, small boats, unmanned aerial vehicles/drones, and catapults..."

That "As these liquid spice substances are widely available in China and other Asian and European countries, most U.S.-based traffickers can purchase the drugs already synthesized and have them shipped through mail carriers to perform final processing and packaging"

So when you look at the DEA and DHS and other groups our issues are with

1. Land ports of entry at southern border.
2. Shipping ports on our coastlines.
3. Mail service entry into the US.
4. Boats, drones, catapults and tunnels.
Then maybe comes things a wall will have any effect on.

It's like a guy who wants to get his car running as well and quickly as he can for an emergency, and he has 4 flat tires, a blown engine, no transmission, and his ECU is fried, and he's using his emergency money to replace the stereo. And somehow people choose to be idiots and say that's the way to do it.

Great post. Republicans here will just blow off what you said because it was more than 3 words and they’ll come back with Sanctuary Cities!

We blow it off because he can't post a single sentence that is actually true. He takes after you in that regard.

If we were a couple I'd ask for a divorce citing irreconcilable differences. LOL

 

[bripat9643]

The problem is between the ports of entry, moron. You obviously don't want to do a thing about that.


How does that physically stop someone from crossing the border? Building the wall is cheaper and far more effective. The best part of the wall is that it prevents illegals from stepping foot in the US and all the associated legal and processing costs of removing them.


What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?


What good is that when the Dims refuse to provide funding for more border gaurds?


How does that improve border security?


How does that improve border security?



How does that improve border security?

Amnesty, in other words. That harms our illegal alien problem.

Everything you propose is either more expensive and less effective than building the wall, or it's positively counter productive.

Everything you propose is can only work after the illegal has already entered the country. The process of removing an illegal who has already entered is 10 times more effective and takes infinite time longer than building a wall.

Your claim that you support border security is pure horseshit. You're a sleazy lying open borders traitor.

No one was fooled.

No one says you can’t work on border security

Who’s in charge of the money? We are. Now here’s 1 billion. Go do your thing. There’s lots of things you can do to fight illegal immigration besides build a wall. Start raiding republican businesses

Who do you think you're fooling? Why don't you just say "here's nothing?" Why would we want to do anything before we build the wall? That's your fetish. That's your excuse for doing nothing.

You're a ******* douchebag.

I guess the answer for that would be because Trumps Dept of Homeland security has released their report that the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants come from overstaying visa's and through ports of entry. So rather than hype up a couple thousand in a caravan, why not stop ignoring the hundreds of thousands entering through other means.

Another bullshit lie. 40% come from overstaying their visas. You can't post a single sentence without lying.

Terrorists overwhelmingly are entering the US through the legal border crossing, as do drugs according to the Trump administration.

How do you know this? Another bullshit lie. You're 2:2 now.

Then in the US we have companies that routinely hire illegal immigrants with no penalty. We literally have private companies intentionally weakening our borders by providing a reward for illegal immigrants who get into the country. They have been involved in this push to reward and at times even help illegal immigrants enter the US.

They couldn't get away with that if local mayors didn't prevent our immigration laws from being enforced.

If this is a National Emergency, that those businesses are actively opposing that for decades, what kind of traitors does that make them to the USA? If we say that someone selling drugs from Mexico in the US is bad, why don't we hold them in the same light? Well a big reason why is a lot of them are the Republican base. Farmers. Mar-a-lago. Trump Tower. Heck, models have reported that Trump Modeling when assisting in the trafficking of those humans into the US, told them to lie to immigration officials about the purpose of their visits on their visa's so they could illegally work in the USA. So maybe that explains why he'd want a wall knowing most illegal immigrants don't come in that way. Gotta keep his businesses running somehow.

Douchebag politicians that you support prevent the laws from being enforced.

I'm done reading your post. What's the post when you're such an chronic liar?

I'm done taking you seriously. Idiot.

Ditto, moron. However, I will continue to point out that you're a douchebag, a liar, and just plain wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

No one says you can’t work on border security

Who’s in charge of the money? We are. Now here’s 1 billion. Go do your thing. There’s lots of things you can do to fight illegal immigration besides build a wall. Start raiding republican businesses

Who do you think you're fooling? Why don't you just say "here's nothing?" Why would we want to do anything before we build the wall? That's your fetish. That's your excuse for doing nothing.

You're a ******* douchebag.

I guess the answer for that would be because Trumps Dept of Homeland security has released their report that the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants come from overstaying visa's and through ports of entry. So rather than hype up a couple thousand in a caravan, why not stop ignoring the hundreds of thousands entering through other means.

Terrorists overwhelmingly are entering the US through the legal border crossing, as do drugs according to the Trump administration.

Then in the US we have companies that routinely hire illegal immigrants with no penalty. We literally have private companies intentionally weakening our borders by providing a reward for illegal immigrants who get into the country. They have been involved in this push to reward and at times even help illegal immigrants enter the US. If this is a National Emergency, that those businesses are actively opposing that for decades, what kind of traitors does that make them to the USA? If we say that someone selling drugs from Mexico in the US is bad, why don't we hold them in the same light? Well a big reason why is a lot of them are the Republican base. Farmers. Mar-a-lago. Trump Tower. Heck, models have reported that Trump Modeling when assisting in the trafficking of those humans into the US, told them to lie to immigration officials about the purpose of their visits on their visa's so they could illegally work in the USA. So maybe that explains why he'd want a wall knowing most illegal immigrants don't come in that way. Gotta keep his businesses running somehow.

Some people read the 2018 DEA report on drug smuggling which says "The majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers."

They see that report that "Fentanyl is transported into the United States in parcel packages directly from China or from China through Canada".

That "Traffickers hide cocaine amongst legitimate cargo of commercial trucks or within secret compartments built within passenger vehicles. Traffickers are also increasingly targeting seaports along the East Coast of the United States as law enforcement efforts have increased along the SWB"

That "Traffickers employ various methods and techniques in the concealment of methamphetamine, such as human couriers at ports of entry, commercial flights, parcel services, and commercial buses."

That "Large quantities of foreign-produced marijuana are smuggled into the United States via personally owned vehicles, commercial vehicles, buses, rail systems, subterranean tunnels, small boats, unmanned aerial vehicles/drones, and catapults..."

That "As these liquid spice substances are widely available in China and other Asian and European countries, most U.S.-based traffickers can purchase the drugs already synthesized and have them shipped through mail carriers to perform final processing and packaging"

So when you look at the DEA and DHS and other groups our issues are with

1. Land ports of entry at southern border.
2. Shipping ports on our coastlines.
3. Mail service entry into the US.
4. Boats, drones, catapults and tunnels.
Then maybe comes things a wall will have any effect on.

It's like a guy who wants to get his car running as well and quickly as he can for an emergency, and he has 4 flat tires, a blown engine, no transmission, and his ECU is fried, and he's using his emergency money to replace the stereo. And somehow people choose to be idiots and say that's the way to do it.

Great post. Republicans here will just blow off what you said because it was more than 3 words and they’ll come back with Sanctuary Cities!

We blow it off because he can't post a single sentence that is actually true. He takes after you in that regard.

If we were a couple I'd ask for a divorce siting irreconcilable differences. LOL

Oh Boo Hoo! Did you actually believe you could persuade me to accept your dishonest douchebag point of view?

 

[sealybobo]

I just explained to you how we never needed a wall before and don’t need a wall if we crack down on illegal employers.

Jail time and close their business down. Do you think employers will be more careful then?

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It’s amazing how similar Republicans today are to liberals in 2006. Remember back then when we were complaining about illegal employers Republicans who are programmed to argue with us no matter what were saying they were just here doing jobs Americans wouldn’t do. Or do you want to pay more to have your grass cut they asked. I have forgotten their flip flop.

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of the GOP's potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.

Democrats where saying that, shit for brains. There may have been some douchebag establishment RINO Republicans saying it, but the rank and file have always supported sanctions on employers who hire illegals. It's already against the law for them to hire illegals. However, the Democrat politicians refuse to enforce the law.

No you god damn fool. If you read what I posted this was a plot.

You don't seem to mind admitting there is a deep state RINO problem in America when any Republican speaks out against Trump but now talking to me you can't seem to admit you have a RINO deep state corporate sellout problem where they and the corporations who lobby them loved the illegals coming and they did it to break unions and increase profits.

You aren't worth arguing with. You never see even a smidgen of the other sides point. You're a shit head. Complete and utter shit head.

 

[BS Filter]

gibberish.

What part confused you the most?

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It’s amazing how similar Republicans today are to liberals in 2006. Remember back then when we were complaining about illegal employers Republicans who are programmed to argue with us no matter what were saying they were just here doing jobs Americans wouldn’t do. Or do you want to pay more to have your grass cut they asked. I have forgotten their flip flop.

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of the GOP's potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.

Democrats where saying that, shit for brains. There may have been some douchebag establishment RINO Republicans saying it, but the rank and file have always supported sanctions on employers who hire illegals. It's already against the law for them to hire illegals. However, the Democrat politicians refuse to enforce the law.

No you god damn fool. If you read what I posted this was a plot.

You don't seem to mind admitting there is a deep state RINO problem in America when any Republican speaks out against Trump but now talking to me you can't seem to admit you have a RINO deep state corporate sellout problem where they and the corporations who lobby them loved the illegals coming and they did it to break unions and increase profits.

You aren't worth arguing with. You never see even a smidgen of the other sides point. You're a shit head. Complete and utter shit head.

There is no other side's point. You're all a bunch of damn liars.

 

[sealybobo]

Who do you think you're fooling? Why don't you just say "here's nothing?" Why would we want to do anything before we build the wall? That's your fetish. That's your excuse for doing nothing.

You're a ******* douchebag.

I guess the answer for that would be because Trumps Dept of Homeland security has released their report that the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants come from overstaying visa's and through ports of entry. So rather than hype up a couple thousand in a caravan, why not stop ignoring the hundreds of thousands entering through other means.

Terrorists overwhelmingly are entering the US through the legal border crossing, as do drugs according to the Trump administration.

Then in the US we have companies that routinely hire illegal immigrants with no penalty. We literally have private companies intentionally weakening our borders by providing a reward for illegal immigrants who get into the country. They have been involved in this push to reward and at times even help illegal immigrants enter the US. If this is a National Emergency, that those businesses are actively opposing that for decades, what kind of traitors does that make them to the USA? If we say that someone selling drugs from Mexico in the US is bad, why don't we hold them in the same light? Well a big reason why is a lot of them are the Republican base. Farmers. Mar-a-lago. Trump Tower. Heck, models have reported that Trump Modeling when assisting in the trafficking of those humans into the US, told them to lie to immigration officials about the purpose of their visits on their visa's so they could illegally work in the USA. So maybe that explains why he'd want a wall knowing most illegal immigrants don't come in that way. Gotta keep his businesses running somehow.

Some people read the 2018 DEA report on drug smuggling which says "The majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers."

They see that report that "Fentanyl is transported into the United States in parcel packages directly from China or from China through Canada".

That "Traffickers hide cocaine amongst legitimate cargo of commercial trucks or within secret compartments built within passenger vehicles. Traffickers are also increasingly targeting seaports along the East Coast of the United States as law enforcement efforts have increased along the SWB"

That "Traffickers employ various methods and techniques in the concealment of methamphetamine, such as human couriers at ports of entry, commercial flights, parcel services, and commercial buses."

That "Large quantities of foreign-produced marijuana are smuggled into the United States via personally owned vehicles, commercial vehicles, buses, rail systems, subterranean tunnels, small boats, unmanned aerial vehicles/drones, and catapults..."

That "As these liquid spice substances are widely available in China and other Asian and European countries, most U.S.-based traffickers can purchase the drugs already synthesized and have them shipped through mail carriers to perform final processing and packaging"

So when you look at the DEA and DHS and other groups our issues are with

1. Land ports of entry at southern border.
2. Shipping ports on our coastlines.
3. Mail service entry into the US.
4. Boats, drones, catapults and tunnels.
Then maybe comes things a wall will have any effect on.

It's like a guy who wants to get his car running as well and quickly as he can for an emergency, and he has 4 flat tires, a blown engine, no transmission, and his ECU is fried, and he's using his emergency money to replace the stereo. And somehow people choose to be idiots and say that's the way to do it.

Great post. Republicans here will just blow off what you said because it was more than 3 words and they’ll come back with Sanctuary Cities!

We blow it off because he can't post a single sentence that is actually true. He takes after you in that regard.

If we were a couple I'd ask for a divorce siting irreconcilable differences. LOL

Oh Boo Hoo! Did you actually believe you could persuade me to accept your dishonest douchebag point of view?

Here's what I want to do with your wall

 

[sealybobo]

What part confused you the most?

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It’s amazing how similar Republicans today are to liberals in 2006. Remember back then when we were complaining about illegal employers Republicans who are programmed to argue with us no matter what were saying they were just here doing jobs Americans wouldn’t do. Or do you want to pay more to have your grass cut they asked. I have forgotten their flip flop.

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of the GOP's potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.

Democrats where saying that, shit for brains. There may have been some douchebag establishment RINO Republicans saying it, but the rank and file have always supported sanctions on employers who hire illegals. It's already against the law for them to hire illegals. However, the Democrat politicians refuse to enforce the law.

No you god damn fool. If you read what I posted this was a plot.

You don't seem to mind admitting there is a deep state RINO problem in America when any Republican speaks out against Trump but now talking to me you can't seem to admit you have a RINO deep state corporate sellout problem where they and the corporations who lobby them loved the illegals coming and they did it to break unions and increase profits.

You aren't worth arguing with. You never see even a smidgen of the other sides point. You're a shit head. Complete and utter shit head.

There is no other side's point. You're all a bunch of damn liars.

How come your own BS doesn't make it through your filter?

Meanwhile, enjoy the 1.7 bill you got for a fence. Make it count.

 

[BS Filter]

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It’s amazing how similar Republicans today are to liberals in 2006. Remember back then when we were complaining about illegal employers Republicans who are programmed to argue with us no matter what were saying they were just here doing jobs Americans wouldn’t do. Or do you want to pay more to have your grass cut they asked. I have forgotten their flip flop.

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of the GOP's potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.

Democrats where saying that, shit for brains. There may have been some douchebag establishment RINO Republicans saying it, but the rank and file have always supported sanctions on employers who hire illegals. It's already against the law for them to hire illegals. However, the Democrat politicians refuse to enforce the law.

No you god damn fool. If you read what I posted this was a plot.

You don't seem to mind admitting there is a deep state RINO problem in America when any Republican speaks out against Trump but now talking to me you can't seem to admit you have a RINO deep state corporate sellout problem where they and the corporations who lobby them loved the illegals coming and they did it to break unions and increase profits.

You aren't worth arguing with. You never see even a smidgen of the other sides point. You're a shit head. Complete and utter shit head.

There is no other side's point. You're all a bunch of damn liars.

How come your own BS doesn't make it through your filter?

Meanwhile, enjoy the 1.7 bill you got for a fence. Make it count.

That 1.7 billion isn't the total for the fence. Trump also has a phone and pen, just like Obama. Idiot.

 

[bripat9643]

Maybe his google translate broke and he can't convert it into cyrillic? lol. Seemed like something a 3rd grader could read. But learning a second language is tough.

It’s amazing how similar Republicans today are to liberals in 2006. Remember back then when we were complaining about illegal employers Republicans who are programmed to argue with us no matter what were saying they were just here doing jobs Americans wouldn’t do. Or do you want to pay more to have your grass cut they asked. I have forgotten their flip flop.

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of the GOP's potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.

Democrats where saying that, shit for brains. There may have been some douchebag establishment RINO Republicans saying it, but the rank and file have always supported sanctions on employers who hire illegals. It's already against the law for them to hire illegals. However, the Democrat politicians refuse to enforce the law.

No you god damn fool. If you read what I posted this was a plot.

You don't seem to mind admitting there is a deep state RINO problem in America when any Republican speaks out against Trump but now talking to me you can't seem to admit you have a RINO deep state corporate sellout problem where they and the corporations who lobby them loved the illegals coming and they did it to break unions and increase profits.

You aren't worth arguing with. You never see even a smidgen of the other sides point. You're a shit head. Complete and utter shit head.

There is no other side's point. You're all a bunch of damn liars.

How come your own BS doesn't make it through your filter?

Meanwhile, enjoy the 1.7 bill you got for a fence. Make it count.

Trump is going to add $23 billion to it.