Trump's third term

[ThisIsMe]

Hitler's Germany did.

The problem here is that Trump is bashing down the lines of power that are quite vague, he's already started the process. He's talking about a third term and a lot of people just let him get away with it. He's talking about ignoring the constitution on many levels and people just say "oh, well, it won't happen". That's super dangerous.

Again, I think there are too many people who, while they support trump, are more loyal to the cotus. That's just my take on it though, take it or leave it.

 

[Rumpole]

Then why is he saying “there are methods” and that he’s “not joking”?

Because, like himself, he's been consorting with morons.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump can't be VP because he is ineligible to be president. It's in the 12th amendment

U.S. Constitution - Twelfth Amendment | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of the Twelfth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

constitution.congress.gov

Wrong again, he could assume the office, he just can't be elected to it.

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[braalian]

12th Amendment.

As a few people already pointed out.... the last sentence:

"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."​

U.S. Constitution - Twelfth Amendment | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of the Twelfth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

constitution.congress.gov

I was not aware of that.

So Trump CANNOT run as VP after finishing his second term, because he will not be legally eligible to run for president…. And anyone not eligible to run for president is therefore automatically ALSO ineligible to run for VP.

Excellent. No retarded loophole after all. So all you people saying he can just backdoor back in as Veep can shut your fucking mouths.

 

[braalian]

Wrong again, he could assume the office, he just can't be elected to it.

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How can he just “assume office” without being elected?

 

[0311]

22nd Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

Amendment XXII​

Section 1.​

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Word for word you MAGA MAGGOT. No more than two terms.

 

[braalian]

Seriously?

You need a “link” to the constitution of the United States of America?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Wrong again, he could assume the office, he just can't be elected to it.

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no, having been President twice means he is ineligible, and the 12th amendment says if you are not eligible to be president, then you can't ve VP.

If you are ineligible to be president then even if they make him speaker, if the line of succession was needed, it would pass him up and go to speaker pro temp.

Again, the original intent of the 22A and the 12A was clear.

 

[OKTexas]

The entire point of VP is that they become POTUS if something happens to the president

The entire point of the 22nd amendment was to prevent anyone from serving more than 2 terms as president.

Just because they didn’t spell out word-for-word “oh, and a two term president can’t backdoor his way in by running as VP” doesn’t mean Trump- or anyone- can use that as a loophole.

What a spectacularly shitty thing to even consider. Obviously the writers of the amendment meant that no one can serve a third term under ANY circumstances. Obviously.

Plus, Trump will be old as shit by then.

Your only problem is within 4 corners of the 22nd it doesn't say that. It specifies "elected".

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[braalian]

Your only problem is within 4 corners of the 22nd it doesn't say that. It specifies "elected".

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Explain how he becomes president again without getting elected?

 

[OKTexas]

no, having been President twice means he is ineligible, and the 12th amendment says if you are not eligible to be president, then you can't ve VP.

If you are ineligible to be president then even if they make him speaker, if the line of succession was needed, it would pass him up and go to speaker pro temp.

Again, the original intent of the 22A and the 12A was clear.

See post 269.

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[Rumpole]

Wrong again, he could assume the office, he just can't be elected to it.

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This isn’t a clever loophole — it’s a constitutional subterfuge, a brazen end-run around the clear intent of the 22nd Amendment. Yes, the letter of the law says a president cannot be elected more than twice. But the spirit of the amendment — the guiding principle behind it — is unmistakable: to prevent one man from dominating the executive branch indefinitely. To shoehorn Trump back into the presidency by rigging the line of succession through a Vice Presidency is not governance — it’s manipulation. It would be rightly viewed as a fraudulent circumvention of constitutional design — a bad-faith abuse of process that mocks the rule of law and the limits of power established after FDR’s four terms. The Constitution is not a board game, and we don’t hand the nuclear codes back to someone disqualified by democratic principle just because they found a procedural back door.

 

[braalian]

See post 269.

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See post 270

How does he become president again without being elected POTUS or VP?

You going to explain or what?

 

[buttercup]

Excellent. No retarded loophole after all. So all you people saying he can just backdoor back in as Veep can shut your fucking mouths.

Well.... since we're living in these days... (i'm talking about BOTH parties, before anyone gets the wrong idea ).... nothing surprises me anymore. So I wouldn't be surprised if the move to change the constitution actually happened.

 

[OKTexas]

How can he just “assume office” without being elected?

If someone is elected VP and president resigns, who assumes the office? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's likely to happen, but there is nothing preventing it.

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[braalian]

Well.... since we're living in these days... (i'm talking about BOTH parties, before anyone gets the wrong idea ).... nothing surprises me anymore. So I wouldn't be surprised if the move to change the constitution actually happened.

Even if they do attempt it, in what universe would that get 2/3 of both chambers plus 3/4 of states to ratify a change almost no one wants?

 

[OKTexas]

Seriously?

You need a “link” to the constitution of the United States of America?

Nope, just to your fantasy reading of it.

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[0311]

No, because the constitution gives out the rules for succession, and given that he can't become president, given that the VP and Speaker positions require the ability to become president, he won't be able occupy those positions either. He could try, but it will be seen for what it is, a subterfuge that violates the constitution.

Some of these people need to read the 22nd. Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.

Section 1.​

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

 

[braalian]

If someone is elected VP and president resigns, who assumes the office? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's likely to happen, but there is nothing preventing it.

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Jesus fucking Christ, have you NOT read the 5 posts here citing the 12th amendment that states anyone not eligible to run for president ALSO ALSO ALSO cannot run for VP?

 

[OKTexas]

Explain how he becomes president again without getting elected?

See post 275.

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