Trump's Tariffs Seriously Reducing The National Debt

From your link:

Of course, it's also important to note that a U.S. appeals court has ruled that most of Trump's tariffs were illegal. The administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the decision, but if it doesn't, the revenues will have to be refunded.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Trump's tariffs. Will most of them be declared illegal, as Appeals Court ruled? And if so, will some of those commitments to reshore manufacturing here be quietly changed or even deleted? Historically, higher tariffs have mostly been reduced eventually. There were reasons why domestic manufacturing left the US for other countries in the 1st place, so what will be different if Trump's tariffs go away?



Even Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has admitted that Trump’s tariffs are being paid by American importers who can pass them off to consumers [3].

Some businesses have already announced their intentions to raise prices as a result of tariffs. A few notable examples include Walmart, Adidas, Home Depot, and Best Buy among others. Ultimately, these price hikes mean that American households will face higher costs for goods, putting pressure on already tight budgets.

“Trump administration policies are driving up consumers’ cost of living in four specific areas: new cars, health insurance, products for children, and cookout staples and other foods,” said the Center for American Progress [4]. The Yale Budget Lab has said the new tariffs will cost American households $2,400 on average in 2025 [5].


The CAP and Yale are left-leaning, so I take their estimates with a grain of salt. But that doesn't make them wrong, but perhaps overstated. But here's the real problem IMHO:

But it’s worth noting that the Big Beautiful Bill, recently signed into law, comes with a hefty price tag. It will cost an estimated $3.4 trillion over the next decade, says the CBO, which could offset much of the potential tariff revenue projections.

This is what happens when revenues go up: Congress spends more money and the anticipated deficit reduction never happens or at best isn't what it was supposed to be. So, we end up with what I think is the worst scenario: the debt and deficits continue to go up and the cost of living goes up more than it otherwise would and that is called inflation. Maybe not all that much due to the tariffs alone, but still that ain't good.


So, I see tariffs as a bad idea, but what can we do to support our manufacturing base? DamnifIknow. Maybe we need to restrict or limit the amount of foreign investments here in some areas, like land for instance. I don't want foreign interests owning one square inch of US soil.
MAGA should mean exactly what it means, and so I agree that flooding this nation with foreign investments in an attempt to make it rich beyond it's wildest dreams could be a dangerous thing in the long term. It's a proposition that could have damming results in the long term just like it did when Bill Clinton started it all with the signing of NAFTA along with other changes in American trade that destroyed our Manufacturaing base, and ultimately led to a dependency that destoyed the American dream for Americans.

We are still digging out from under that one.
 
The president has to sign off on all spending so you can’t get away from it being 100% Trump’s fault if we run a deficit.
So how many trillions will we be in debt on 1/20/2029?
More than we are now? Less than we are now?
Don’t wuss out and try to blame someone else like you always do.
The debt clock is now at $37.5T

The CBO's revised BBB math says that the BBB has a $240b annual deficit. ($2.4T over 10-years)
If congress cuts all of the DOGE savings $200b a year can be saved
If the GDP stays above 3% instead of the 1.8% the CBO assumed, $300b a year in additional revenue can be had
If the Fed lowers interest rates 1% an additional $300b a year can be saved in interest payments
If Trump's BBB budget can be approved instead of wasteful CRs the CBO numbers hold, if not all bets are off.

Using my Ouija board, the DOGE cuts won't happen. Congress doesn't like to cut spending.
The GDP should be above 1.8% so save that $300b
The Fed should lower interest rates, especially after Trump replaces Powell, that's another $300b

So my prediction for the Debt Clock number on 1/20/29 is $37T.
The best it could be is in years 2-4 is $800b/yr x 3 yrs = $2.4T lower or $35.1T if congress cuts every wasted dollar.
 
From your link:
Of course, it's also important to note that a U.S. appeals court has ruled that most of Trump's tariffs were illegal. The administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the decision, but if it doesn't, the revenues will have to be refunded.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Trump's tariffs. Will most of them be declared illegal, as Appeals Court ruled? And if so, will some of those commitments to reshore manufacturing here be quietly changed or even deleted? Historically, higher tariffs have mostly been reduced eventually. There were reasons why domestic manufacturing left the US for other countries in the 1st place, so what will be different if Trump's tariffs go away?

Even Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has admitted that Trump’s tariffs are being paid by American importers who can pass them off to consumers [3].

Some businesses have already announced their intentions to raise prices as a result of tariffs. A few notable examples include Walmart, Adidas, Home Depot, and Best Buy among others. Ultimately, these price hikes mean that American households will face higher costs for goods, putting pressure on already tight budgets.

“Trump administration policies are driving up consumers’ cost of living in four specific areas: new cars, health insurance, products for children, and cookout staples and other foods,” said the Center for American Progress [4]. The Yale Budget Lab has said the new tariffs will cost American households $2,400 on average in 2025 [5].


The CAP and Yale are left-leaning, so I take their estimates with a grain of salt. But that doesn't make them wrong, but perhaps overstated. But here's the real problem IMHO:

But it’s worth noting that the Big Beautiful Bill, recently signed into law, comes with a hefty price tag. It will cost an estimated $3.4 trillion over the next decade, says the CBO, which could offset much of the potential tariff revenue projections.

This is what happens when revenues go up: Congress spends more money and the anticipated deficit reduction never happens or at best isn't what it was supposed to be. So, we end up with what I think is the worst scenario: the debt and deficits continue to go up and the cost of living goes up more than it otherwise would and that is called inflation. Maybe not all that much due to the tariffs alone, but still that ain't good.
So, I see tariffs as a bad idea, but what can we do to support our manufacturing base? DamnifIknow. Maybe we need to restrict or limit the amount of foreign investments here in some areas, like land for instance. I don't want foreign interests owning one square inch of US soil.
1. Bessent didn't say tariffs are paid by American Importers, he said: “It’s a very complicated question,”

2. I agree that if the USSC says tariffs are illegal we're all screwed because we would need to keep borrowing and the dollar will crash. I believe that the USSC will not overrule the Executive's decision to declare an "emergency".

3. If tariffs cost households $2,400 a year, that is much less than the $11,400 Bidenomics cost them.

4. The first bold sentence above is the CBO's 1st score, their revised score is $2.4T over 10-years.

5. You need to admit that tariffs are the best option to support US manufacturing, and to reduce the $37.5T DEBT.
 
The debt clock is now at $37.5T

The CBO's revised BBB math says that the BBB has a $240b annual deficit. ($2.4T over 10-years)
If congress cuts all of the DOGE savings $200b a year can be saved
If the GDP stays above 3% instead of the 1.8% the CBO assumed, $300b a year in additional revenue can be had
If the Fed lowers interest rates 1% an additional $300b a year can be saved in interest payments
If Trump's BBB budget can be approved instead of wasteful CRs the CBO numbers hold, if not all bets are off.

Using my Ouija board, the DOGE cuts won't happen. Congress doesn't like to cut spending.
The GDP should be above 1.8% so save that $300b
The Fed should lower interest rates, especially after Trump replaces Powell, that's another $300b

So my prediction for the Debt Clock number on 1/20/29 is $37T.
The best it could be is in years 2-4 is $800b/yr x 3 yrs = $2.4T lower or $35.1T if congress cuts every wasted dollar.
You know, one wonders why those who were charged or elected to manage our nation over the year's aren't in some sort of deep doo doo for either selling us out or they were just playing us and this nation for the fool's that we've been.

Many of these people are still alive today, and maybe they should be stripped of their honor, their legacies, and possibly their fortunes.

The message should be that if you are elected to public office, and you are charged with managing this nation and it's financial well being, then you had best make every decision in the best regards to the interest of this nation and it's citizen's. If not then you should be removed and possibly tried by a Federal American court where by the charges will include many regarding the mismanagement of a nation for personal gain or to change a nation's independence to becoming dependent for long term nefarious reasons.
 
3. If tariffs cost households $2,400 a year, that is much less than the $11,400 Bidenomics cost them.
Irrelevant.


5. You need to admit that tariffs are the best option to support US manufacturing, and to reduce the $37.5T DEBT.

No I don't. I will say that tariffs will eventually lower economic growth and the standard of living for a lot of people and they will increase inflation. I highly doubt Trump's tariffs will last for very long before he claims victory and curtails them. He's going to say his tariffs have forced X number of countries to restructure their tariffs on our stuff, but it won't make much of a difference in the long run.

Tariffs have always been a bad idea that have a short term plus that never lasts for long.
 
Time for another lefty meltdown and denials. Winning. One thing I love about the left is they never get tired of losing. It's just a way of life for them. Trump's tariffs have been a good thing for a number of reasons. The left keep complaining about tariffs raising prices and yet we never actually see raised prices. They're always right around the corner.

Trump is bringing in so much revenue from tariffs that it’s seriously reducing the $37 trillion national debt​


The tarifffs are a tax on americans ro pay for

billionaire tax cuts for the donors.Its not a win. Its a jack.
 
You know, one wonders why those who were charged or elected to manage our nation over the year's aren't in some sort of deep doo doo for either selling us out or they were just playing us and this nation for the fool's that we've been.
Many of these people are still alive today, and maybe they should be stripped of their honor, their legacies, and possibly their fortunes.
The message should be that if you are elected to public office, and you are charged with managing this nation and it's financial well being, then you had best make every decision in the best regards to the interest of this nation and it's citizen's. If not then you should be removed and possibly tried by a Federal American court where by the charges will include many regarding the mismanagement of a nation for personal gain or to change a nation's independence to becoming dependent for long term nefarious reasons.
Unless there is a Balanced Budget Amendment pols will never make the tough cuts when borrowing and spending is better politically.
 
Irrelevant.




No I don't. I will say that tariffs will eventually lower economic growth and the standard of living for a lot of people and they will increase inflation. I highly doubt Trump's tariffs will last for very long before he claims victory and curtails them. He's going to say his tariffs have forced X number of countries to restructure their tariffs on our stuff, but it won't make much of a difference in the long run.

Tariffs have always been a bad idea that have a short term plus that never lasts for long.
So for the foreign countries their tariffs are good, but our tariffs in response are bad ??? Make it make sense..
 
Irrelevant.
No its not. Biden's 9% inflation screwed everyone, to the tune of losing $11,400 a year.
Trump's projected $2,400 is not real, its projected. We'll see if Trump's tax cuts on tips and OT can help our finances.
No I don't. I will say that tariffs will eventually lower economic growth and the standard of living for a lot of people and they will increase inflation. I highly doubt Trump's tariffs will last for very long before he claims victory and curtails them. He's going to say his tariffs have forced X number of countries to restructure their tariffs on our stuff, but it won't make much of a difference in the long run.
You can type all the nonsense you want. But those tariffs are getting new manufacturing plants built, and are really cutting the budget deficit.
Tariffs have always been a bad idea that have a short term plus that never lasts for long.
We'll see. Trump knows how to manage finances.
 
You can type all the nonsense you want. But those tariffs are getting new manufacturing plants built, and are really cutting the budget deficit.

All I see are promises to build new plants, and if the tariffs go away then so do the plants. And Trump's Big Beautiful Bill is spending most of that tariff revenue, so the gain is minimal at best.


No its not. Biden's 9% inflation screwed everyone, to the tune of losing $11,400 a year.

Bidenomics has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump's tariffs. For sure Biden's economics sucked, but in the long run Trump's tariffs ain't going to do anything about that. If he leaves them in place then most economics agree that the US economy will suffer, and if he reduces or eliminates them then the purported value dies.


So for the foreign countries their tariffs are good, but our tariffs in response are bad ??? Make it make sense..

I don't believe tariffs help anybody. I doubt that foreign tariffs on our stuff matters much, much of our stuff costs too much anyway, that's why people here don't buy it much either. What bothers me is Trump's broad-based tariffs that are not specific enough to target specific cases.
 
Actually importers.

Tax rates did not change, except for no tax on tips or OT. So worry about your own British taxes.
Americans pay the taxes. It isnt complicated. The money goes to the donor class. GOP economics.
 
Do you see any "crippling" of the US economy? Hint: no you don't.
Because the tariffs are just now taking effect. In light of that, your comment is pretty stupid, don't you think?

Have you asked a farmer what they think of the economy? Wouldn't help your desperate narrative.
 
All I see are promises to build new plants, and if the tariffs go away then so do the plants. And Trump's Big Beautiful Bill is spending most of that tariff revenue, so the gain is minimal at best.
Tariffs are not oing away, so there is that.
Bidenomics has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump's tariffs. For sure Biden's economics sucked, but in the long run Trump's tariffs ain't going to do anything about that. If he leaves them in place then most economics agree that the US economy will suffer, and if he reduces or eliminates them then the purported value dies.
Your post said US families lose $2,400 a year due to tariffs.
My post showed that Biden's inflation cost US families $11,400 a year.
Trump has to keep the tariffs to get the new manufacturing plants.
Besides, with the new tax cuts for tips and OT many families come out ahead.
 
15th post
Because they help the economy, especially US manufacturing.

Do you see any "crippling" of the US economy? Hint: no you don't.

So don't ask stupid questions.
Do you believe everything you read?
 
Typing lies is easy. Proving them is a lot harder.
Importers pay tariffs, which go to the US Treasury, duh.
You really arent that dumb. Nobody is. The idea that some mythical middle man pays the tax is gob smacking. The tax is passed on to consumers. Americans. They pay it so that elon pays less. Its really a simple equation. If it wacnt simple trump wouldnt understand it,
 
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