Trumps Spygate Conspiracy Theory Ends With A Whimper

[Aldo Raine]

“Nothing we heard today has changed our view that there is no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intel agency placed a spy in the Trump campaign,” said a statement Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., read to reporters on behalf of himself, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. and Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.

But just as the notorious “Nunes memo” ended up backfiring, undermining Trump World’s own arguments, the secret information divulged yesterday brought into focus another inconvenient truth for the president: there was no spy. Trump’s assertions on the matter have been ridiculous from the outset.

Trump's nonsensical 'Spygate' conspiracy theory ends with a whimper

Keep dreaming...it will take a couple of weeks for the MSM to catch up....by then indictments will be handed out to Clapper Brennan Comey Yates etc etc etc......Obama is pure scum and scum like that does not wash off with time...

Wanna bet on those indictments there laughing boy?

 

[JBond]

Weird how democrats are all too willing to dismiss this, yet entertain basically anything that makes Trump look bad. The Russia investigation, which let’s face it—is based on nothing really—has been going on for two years, yet they come to this conclusion that Trump’s claim of campaign spying is full of shit in less than a week.

Here’s the thing: they don’t CARE if it’s true or not bc it’s their job to prove him wrong and by God they WILL prove him wrong.

The evidence proves that trump was lying again. The evidence was viewed yesterday by that gang of eight. They said that there was no spy.

Why are you so quick to believe trump's lies and not honest hard facts?

Seems to me that it's people like you who don't want truth or honesty.

There was no spy in trump's campaign. There was no wiretaps on trump tower.

Nothing that trump has said about this has turned out to have any evidence or truth.

If all of that happened where's the evidence? Where's the proof? Just saying that there was a spy in trump's campaign doesn't make it true.

Meanwhile all evidence screams that trump is a liar and you believe those lies.

Democrats lie every day. Obama lied about his involvement in the investigation and Dems are still lying to cover his pathetic ass. It is what dems do. It is the only thing they know how to do well.

Why do you believe Obama lied about his involvement? Thanks to the FBI texts agents tried to destroy, we know he was briefed on every aspect of the investigation. We also know he could have stopped the Russian trolls, but made the decision not to. I wonder why? I also wonder why the DNC purchased a dossier written by Kremlin agents.

 

[Syriusly]

The spy's name was made public already. Failed thread.

What spy?

James Bond is fictional.

Sorry you have not been keeping up with events. You probably should not post in a thread when you are completely ignorant regarding the topic.

Stefan Halper, a longtime CIA operative and professor at Cambridge University has already been named.

Oh Stefan Halper- the informant? The informant who was not in the Trump campaign, or part of the campaign?

On July 7 of that year, Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page traveled to Moscow to give a lecture. Page had long been on the FBI’s radar due to his contacts with Russia; in 2013, Russian intelligence reached out to him directly in a short-lived effort to recruit him as an intelligence asset. Less than a week later, Halper met Page at a conference on US foreign policy and the 2016 election held in Cambridge. The two men struck up an email correspondence.


It’s not clear whether that initial meeting was done at the FBI’s behest. It’s possible that these two men just had a lot in common and established a sort of friendship; Halper is reportedly known for being a major networker.


But on July 31, about three weeks after Halper and Page first met, the FBI began a counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to infiltrate the Trump campaign and alter the outcome of the 2016 election. As part of this investigation, they asked Halper to reach out to two Trump advisers — Page and George Papadopoulos — to see what he could learn about connections between the Trump campaign and Russia.


Between August 1 and the November 2016 election, Halper was in regular contact with those two men. In September, he met with Papadopoulos in London — the pretext was Halper paying Papadopoulos to write a paper on Middle Eastern energy markets — and asked him about Trump contacts with the Kremlin.


Papadopoulos denied any knowledge of Russian outreach to the Trump team, which was a lie: Papadopoulos had drunkenly bragged to an Australian diplomat about Russia offering him “dirt” on Hillary Clinton back in May, which led to the FBI beginning its counterintelligence investigation in the first place.


Halper also met with a third Trump foreign policy adviser, Sam Clovis; according to Clovis, they discussed China policy, not Russia. It’s not clear if this meeting was also at the FBI’s behest, or if what they discussed was relayed back to the FBI.

So according to the information we have Halper contacted two Trump campaign members- and met with one Trump advisor.

So what is the name of the 'spy' in the Trump campaign?

Certainly isn't Halper.

 

[BookShaka]

Meanwhile no one cares that Hillary’s campaign worked with foreign officials to get dirt on Trump in order to INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION! I guess working with outsiders to influence an election is only a problem when Trump supposedly does it.

Weird how democrats are all too willing to dismiss this, yet entertain basically anything that makes Trump look bad. The Russia investigation, which let’s face it—is based on nothing really—has been going on for two years, yet they come to this conclusion that Trump’s claim of campaign spying is full of shit in less than a week.

Here’s the thing: they don’t CARE if it’s true or not bc it’s their job to prove him wrong and by God they WILL prove him wrong.

The evidence proves that trump was lying again. The evidence was viewed yesterday by that gang of eight. They said that there was no spy.

Why are you so quick to believe trump's lies and not honest hard facts?

Seems to me that it's people like you who don't want truth or honesty.

There was no spy in trump's campaign. There was no wiretaps on trump tower.

Nothing that trump has said about this has turned out to have any evidence or truth.

If all of that happened where's the evidence? Where's the proof? Just saying that there was a spy in trump's campaign doesn't make it true.

Meanwhile all evidence screams that trump is a liar and you believe those lies.

Democrats lie every day. Obama lied about his involvement in the investigation and Dems are still lying to cover his pathetic ass. It is what dems do. It is the only thing they know how to do well.

Why do you believe Obama lied about his involvement? Thanks to the FBI texts agents tried to destroy, we know he was briefed on every aspect of the investigation. We also know he could have stopped the Russian trolls, but made the decision not to. I wonder why? I also wonder why the DNC purchased a dossier written by Kremlin agents.

 

[Syriusly]

Weird how democrats are all too willing to dismiss this, yet entertain basically anything that makes Trump look bad. The Russia investigation, which let’s face it—is based on nothing really—has been going on for two years, yet they come to this conclusion that Trump’s claim of campaign spying is full of shit in less than a week.

Here’s the thing: they don’t CARE if it’s true or not bc it’s their job to prove him wrong and by God they WILL prove him wrong.

The evidence proves that trump was lying again. The evidence was viewed yesterday by that gang of eight. They said that there was no spy.

Why are you so quick to believe trump's lies and not honest hard facts?

Seems to me that it's people like you who don't want truth or honesty.

There was no spy in trump's campaign. There was no wiretaps on trump tower.

Nothing that trump has said about this has turned out to have any evidence or truth.

If all of that happened where's the evidence? Where's the proof? Just saying that there was a spy in trump's campaign doesn't make it true.

Meanwhile all evidence screams that trump is a liar and you believe those lies.

Democrats lie every day.

Oh I have no doubt that if you take all of the Democrats, you can find Democrat lies every day.

But Trump lies virtually every day.

And you don't give a damn.

You didn't give a damn when lied and went full Birther.
You didn't give a damn when he lied about fraudulant voters.
You didn't give a damn when he lied about his phones being wiretapped.

And you don't give a damn about whether he is lying about this either.

But sure- blame Democrats instead.

 

[OldLady]

This is making me sick to my stomach. He needs to be stopped from this game he's playing; it's gone too far. I'm not joking.

I've been attempting to reduce my exposure to Donald Trump and politics in general as much as possible OL. I find it best to remain in a place that sits somewhere in between fully informed and comfortably numb.

This most recent behavior is his scariest to date. At this point one gets the feeling that he will literally burn the country to the ground if that's what it takes to protect his presidency. IOW, he's feeling like a cornered rat and what he's liable to do next is scary as all hell.

I'm not joking either.

Someone in the DOJ needs to step up and play dirty hardball as well as he does. Comey could have, in his own sly, sneaky way, but he's gone.

Either that, or someone needs to explain to Trump what history will say about him. He does seem to care about that.

 

[Syriusly]

Meanwhile no one cares that Hillary’s campaign worked with foreign officials to get dirt on Trump in order to INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION! I guess working with outsiders to influence an election is only a problem when Trump supposedly does it.]

Well nice attempt to change the subject from the current President's attempts to get dirt on Clinton- to the person who didn't get elected.

 

[BookShaka]

Those indictments will never happen. Those people are untouchable. It’s past time Americans figure out that many of the elites in this country are above the law and can get away with things the average person would never get away with.

“Nothing we heard today has changed our view that there is no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intel agency placed a spy in the Trump campaign,” said a statement Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., read to reporters on behalf of himself, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. and Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.

But just as the notorious “Nunes memo” ended up backfiring, undermining Trump World’s own arguments, the secret information divulged yesterday brought into focus another inconvenient truth for the president: there was no spy. Trump’s assertions on the matter have been ridiculous from the outset.

Trump's nonsensical 'Spygate' conspiracy theory ends with a whimper

Keep dreaming...it will take a couple of weeks for the MSM to catch up....by then indictments will be handed out to Clapper Brennan Comey Yates etc etc etc......Obama is pure scum and scum like that does not wash off with time...

Wanna bet on those indictments there laughing boy?

 

[BlindBoo]

You'll have to ask the head of the investigation to release the information. The only information he has given to anyone is through his court filings. This must really infuriate the Innuendo and Rumors President. Dealing with someone who has integrity.
.

That’s why I asked him for proof, because right now there is none.

What discoveries? Tell me what proof there is Russia was working with Trump to win him the election. I know Russia tried to influence Americans pertaining to the election, but what irrefutable evidence is there Trump was involved as well?

Uh-huh. And the Russian collusion thing is an anti-Trump invention.

Remember those text messages that were publicized between two dems who were having an affair? They spoke about an “insurance policy” in case Trump won... this was before the Russia investigation was started... what do you think this “insurance policy” was?

I’m not saying this means it was dreamed up by democrats, but it looks awfully suspicious. One would think if they’ve found something of merit regarding Trump Russia collusion, they’d have wrapped things up... Two years seems like plenty of time, given all the people who believe Trump is guilty. If it was THAT obvious, it probably wouldn’t take them two plus years to nail him.

The spy thing was a Trump invention. It's not that we don't care, it's that it's not true.

Yeah, texts between 2 people pales pathetically in comparison to the discoveries made about Russia interfering in the election on Trump's behalf and working with his henchmen to sabotage our democracy.

Politicians leak information to sway the court of public opinion. Prosecutors do not leak information because it could prejudice their case in court. You have no idea what the investigation has found in regards to possible collusion and coordination between the Trump Campaign or with the Great Grabby One himself.

 

[BookShaka]

I’m not trying to change the subject. I’m simply pointing something out I feel is relevant. Sorry you have a problem with that.

Meanwhile no one cares that Hillary’s campaign worked with foreign officials to get dirt on Trump in order to INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION! I guess working with outsiders to influence an election is only a problem when Trump supposedly does it.]

Well nice attempt to change the subject from the current President's attempts to get dirt on Clinton- to the person who didn't get elected.

 

[Syriusly]

Clever...

Looking at things objectively is so insane. No wonder hardly anyone wants to do it. Toss me in a padded room and throw away the key! We can’t let anyone make informed decisions!

The media wants us all to bob our heads and repeat after them. I say fuck that.]

Trumpsters want you all to bob your heads and repeat Trump's tweets after them.

I say fuck that.

Looking at Trump's claim of a spy- objectively- is that there is no evidence of such a spy.

But Trump and the GOP spinmeister's are working hard to convince their core- that despite the lack of evidence- that there was a spy- and that it was all part of some nefarious plot against Trump.

They certainly don't want anyone to look at that story 'objectively'

 

[OldLady]

Meanwhile no one cares that Hillary’s campaign worked with foreign officials to get dirt on Trump in order to INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION! I guess working with outsiders to influence an election is only a problem when Trump supposedly does it.

Weird how democrats are all too willing to dismiss this, yet entertain basically anything that makes Trump look bad. The Russia investigation, which let’s face it—is based on nothing really—has been going on for two years, yet they come to this conclusion that Trump’s claim of campaign spying is full of shit in less than a week.

Here’s the thing: they don’t CARE if it’s true or not bc it’s their job to prove him wrong and by God they WILL prove him wrong.

The evidence proves that trump was lying again. The evidence was viewed yesterday by that gang of eight. They said that there was no spy.

Why are you so quick to believe trump's lies and not honest hard facts?

Seems to me that it's people like you who don't want truth or honesty.

There was no spy in trump's campaign. There was no wiretaps on trump tower.

Nothing that trump has said about this has turned out to have any evidence or truth.

If all of that happened where's the evidence? Where's the proof? Just saying that there was a spy in trump's campaign doesn't make it true.

Meanwhile all evidence screams that trump is a liar and you believe those lies.

Democrats lie every day. Obama lied about his involvement in the investigation and Dems are still lying to cover his pathetic ass. It is what dems do. It is the only thing they know how to do well.

Why do you believe Obama lied about his involvement? Thanks to the FBI texts agents tried to destroy, we know he was briefed on every aspect of the investigation. We also know he could have stopped the Russian trolls, but made the decision not to. I wonder why? I also wonder why the DNC purchased a dossier written by Kremlin agents.

This thread is about Trump, not the Democrats.
Also, welcome BookShaka. I didn't see you in the Introductions forum, but here is your complimentary coffee and donuts. Enjoy yourself.

 

[Syriusly]

I’m not trying to change the subject. I’m simply pointing something out I feel is relevant. Sorry you have a problem with that.

Meanwhile no one cares that Hillary’s campaign worked with foreign officials to get dirt on Trump in order to INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION! I guess working with outsiders to influence an election is only a problem when Trump supposedly does it.]

Well nice attempt to change the subject from the current President's attempts to get dirt on Clinton- to the person who didn't get elected.

Clearly you were trying to change the subject- and I'm simply pointing that out. I really don't care if you have a problem with that.

 

[HappyJoy]

“Nothing we heard today has changed our view that there is no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intel agency placed a spy in the Trump campaign,” said a statement Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., read to reporters on behalf of himself, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. and Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.

But just as the notorious “Nunes memo” ended up backfiring, undermining Trump World’s own arguments, the secret information divulged yesterday brought into focus another inconvenient truth for the president: there was no spy. Trump’s assertions on the matter have been ridiculous from the outset.

Trump's nonsensical 'Spygate' conspiracy theory ends with a whimper

Keep dreaming...it will take a couple of weeks for the MSM to catch up....by then indictments will be handed out to Clapper Brennan Comey Yates etc etc etc......Obama is pure scum and scum like that does not wash off with time...

And when indictments are not handed out will you quit this board?

 

[BlindBoo]

I was responding to what you said at the top, not what was at the bottom.

I never said I had any idea, but the person I was quoting insinuated they DID have an idea when they wrote “text messages pale in comparison to the discoveries” concerning Russian collusion.

I think you quoted the wrong person. I’m not the one talking about discoveries.

What discoveries? Tell me what proof there is Russia was working with Trump to win him the election. I know Russia tried to influence Americans pertaining to the election, but what irrefutable evidence is there Trump was involved as well?

Uh-huh. And the Russian collusion thing is an anti-Trump invention.

Remember those text messages that were publicized between two dems who were having an affair? They spoke about an “insurance policy” in case Trump won... this was before the Russia investigation was started... what do you think this “insurance policy” was?

I’m not saying this means it was dreamed up by democrats, but it looks awfully suspicious. One would think if they’ve found something of merit regarding Trump Russia collusion, they’d have wrapped things up... Two years seems like plenty of time, given all the people who believe Trump is guilty. If it was THAT obvious, it probably wouldn’t take them two plus years to nail him.

The spy thing was a Trump invention. It's not that we don't care, it's that it's not true.

Yeah, texts between 2 people pales pathetically in comparison to the discoveries made about Russia interfering in the election on Trump's behalf and working with his henchmen to sabotage our democracy.

Politicians leak information to sway the court of public opinion. Prosecutors do not leak information because it could prejudice their case in court. You have no idea what the investigation has found in regards to possible collusion and coordination between the Trump Campaign or with the Great Grabby One himself.

 

[basquebromance]

this all rests at the feet of Barack H Obama & John Clapper & James Brennan & James Comney & THE SPY Stephen Harper...LOCK EM ALL UP!

 

[OldLady]

The spy's name was made public already. Failed thread.

What spy?

James Bond is fictional.

Sorry you have not been keeping up with events. You probably should not post in a thread when you are completely ignorant regarding the topic.

Stefan Halper, a longtime CIA operative and professor at Cambridge University has already been named.

Yeah, the guy sounds like a real Progressive to me. Burn them Republicans to the ground!

Stefan Halper: Cambridge professor, former middling aide to Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Now, apparently, the confidential source for the FBI’s investigation into the Trump campaign.

 

[BlindBoo]

That didn't stop him from making a fool of himself on twitter this morning, again. Somebody get that dotard some Metamucil.

Jesus - I forgot to look .. Yep, the Toxic Orange Turd is back to his lying.

1. Verified account 4h4 hours ago
   “Everyone knows there was a Spy, and in fact the people who were involved in the Spying are admitting that there was a Spy...Widespread Spying involving multiple people.” Mollie Hemingway, The Federalist Senior Editor But the corrupt Mainstream Media hates this monster story!
   
   10,711 replies11,986 retweets40,821 likes
   
2. 
   Verified account 4h4 hours ago
   Can anyone even imagine having Spies placed in a competing campaign, by the people and party in absolute power, for the sole purpose of political advantage and gain? And to think that the party in question, even with the expenditure of far more money, LOST!
   
   14,738 replies12,367 retweets47,422 likes
   
3. 
   Verified account 4h4 hours ago
   The Democrats are now alluding to the the concept that having an Informant placed in an opposing party’s campaign is different than having a Spy, as illegal as that may be. But what about an “Informant” who is paid a fortune and who “sets up” way earlier than the Russian Hoax?
   
   7,582 replies9,196 retweets32,530 likes
   

This is making me sick to my stomach. He needs to be stopped from this game he's playing; it's gone too far. I'm not joking.

Yep. Obama started this shit. It needs to end. He and his minions need to be locked up. Thank God we have someone willing to take on the Obama corruption.

Jesus fucking chryst. We've only heard that nonsense going on what, 10 years now? .......any day now.

It's obvious he and Hillary are super-duper mastermind criminals with an almost supernatural ability to allude any and all GOP investigations in perpetuity.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Those indictments will never happen. Those people are untouchable. It’s past time Americans figure out that many of the elites in this country are above the law and can get away with things the average person would never get away with.

“Nothing we heard today has changed our view that there is no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intel agency placed a spy in the Trump campaign,” said a statement Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., read to reporters on behalf of himself, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. and Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.

But just as the notorious “Nunes memo” ended up backfiring, undermining Trump World’s own arguments, the secret information divulged yesterday brought into focus another inconvenient truth for the president: there was no spy. Trump’s assertions on the matter have been ridiculous from the outset.

Trump's nonsensical 'Spygate' conspiracy theory ends with a whimper

Keep dreaming...it will take a couple of weeks for the MSM to catch up....by then indictments will be handed out to Clapper Brennan Comey Yates etc etc etc......Obama is pure scum and scum like that does not wash off with time...

Wanna bet on those indictments there laughing boy?

Bingo, that goes for both parties.

 

[JBond]

BTW I’m not saying I believe Trump’s claims, I just believe incorporating personal bias into something like this prevents one from seeing things objectively. Most of the Trump haters had already made up their mind the moment he made the claim that he was full of shit, but I’m not prepared to make decisions so easily based on nothing but my dislike for a person.

Yet you ignore that most of the Trump supporters operate the exact same way- but believe everything he says- regardless of the lack of proof.

Speaking of personal bias- remember Trump has a personal bias in discrediting the FBI and its investigation into the Trump campaign. And Trump has a long, well documented history of lying- remember his going full Birther? Remember the '6 million fraudulant voters'?

It is entirely valid to point out that once again:

• Trump has made a claim without any evidence
• That such evidence is not forthcoming
• That the claim is self serving
• That the claim is used to attack his perceived 'enemies'

Trump has a history of doing this. His supporter's bias prevents them from acknowledging this.

Can you?

The claim has already been proven. I have posted the name repeatedly. You can't help stupid.

The spy's name was made public already. Failed thread.

What spy?

James Bond is fictional.

Sorry you have not been keeping up with events. You probably should not post in a thread when you are completely ignorant regarding the topic.

Stefan Halper, a longtime CIA operative and professor at Cambridge University has already been named.

Yeah, the guy sounds like a real Progressive to me. Burn them Republicans to the ground!

Stefan Halper: Cambridge professor, former middling aide to Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Now, apparently, the confidential source for the FBI’s investigation into the Trump campaign.

I know exactly who he is and what he has done. Thanks for acknowledging the Obama spy.