Trump's pyrrhic victory: The US opts for path that can only lead to war

[Slade3200]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

The agreement itself. Was it ratified by the Senate? No, it was never presented as a treaty.

Did Iran sign it? No, Obama did not insist Iran sign it.

Anything else?

It's sure being seriously considered a broken agreement though, whatever excuses you want to make for Trump's actions.

a non binding one.
If it was so important, and such a good idea, obamas ass should have done it the right way.

It wasn’t a treaty but it was an agreement that many parties made with each other. Since it wasn’t a treaty Trump was able to unilaterally back out. So yes it was an official agreement made by our country and yes it was legally dumped by our current president. I believe it does hurt our credibility especially since there is so much conflicting information about the justifications. Matis and our intel agencies saying the Iranians haven’t broken their end of the deal, Trump saying they have. It’s messy and smells political, not factual.

 

[OldLady]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

it's a fact. that's who. why didn't obammy take it to congress to get the treaty? tick, tock

Because the GOP Congress wasn't approving ANYTHING Obama put on the table. Including this if he had tried it. Have you forgotten the patriotic obstruction of any Democratic initiatives during the Obama administration? Holding the line, like that?

 

[TNHarley]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

it's a fact. that's who. why didn't obammy take it to congress to get the treaty? tick, tock

Because the GOP Congress wasn't approving ANYTHING Obama put on the table. Including this if he had tried it. Have you forgotten the patriotic obstruction of any Democratic initiatives during the Obama administration? Holding the line, like that?

There were many democrats against it as well. Some that didnt like it then were upset when trump pulled out

 

[Slade3200]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

it's a fact. that's who. why didn't obammy take it to congress to get the treaty? tick, tock

Because the GOP Congress wasn't approving ANYTHING Obama put on the table. Including this if he had tried it. Have you forgotten the patriotic obstruction of any Democratic initiatives during the Obama administration? Holding the line, like that?

There were many democrats against it as well. Some that didnt like it then were upset when trump pulled out

Not supporting the passing of a deal and not supporting backing out of a deal once it is made are two different things. You shouldn’t conflate them. It’s not intellectually honest.

 

[nat4900]

Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory: the US Opts for a Path That Can Only Lead to War

Brilliant article and 100% right.

I don't often agree with you, but the article you cited is SPOT ON....

 

[Skull Pilot]

Anyone who claims there can only be one future outcome is full of shit

Do you people believe the psychic predictions in the Star and Enquirer too?

 

[TNHarley]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

it's a fact. that's who. why didn't obammy take it to congress to get the treaty? tick, tock

Because the GOP Congress wasn't approving ANYTHING Obama put on the table. Including this if he had tried it. Have you forgotten the patriotic obstruction of any Democratic initiatives during the Obama administration? Holding the line, like that?

There were many democrats against it as well. Some that didnt like it then were upset when trump pulled out

Not supporting the passing of a deal and not supporting backing out of a deal once it is made are two different things. You shouldn’t conflate them. It’s not intellectually honest.

His whole thing was about keeping sanctions on them. You believe it.

 

[OKTexas]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

The agreement itself. Was it ratified by the Senate? No, it was never presented as a treaty.

Did Iran sign it? No, Obama did not insist Iran sign it.

Anything else?

It's sure being seriously considered a broken agreement though, whatever excuses you want to make for Trump's actions.

a non binding one.
If it was so important, and such a good idea, obamas ass should have done it the right way.

Well, if Russia, China, France, Germany, UK, Iran, and the U.N. all thought it was a real agreement and actually did what the agreement said they should do, and if everyone except the U.S. is now treating it as a broken agreement, I don't think the excuses matter. They are only to make Trump look acceptable in doing this.
If it brings Iran around, I'll be glad. It sure doesn't look that way right now. I'm beginning to wonder if the gossip about Israel and S.A. might be true--they just want us on their side in a war with Iran. Iran and Israel gave it a good kickoff last night.

If it was a real agreement, why didn't Iran sign it?


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[TroglocratsRdumb]

if there is a war between israel and iran it will 100% iran's fault

 

[Rocko]

We're not going to war with Iran.

Hopefully. A strong America made the USSR back down. A strong America is the only way Iran will give up its nuclear program

 

[jc456]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

The agreement itself. Was it ratified by the Senate? No, it was never presented as a treaty.

Did Iran sign it? No, Obama did not insist Iran sign it.

Anything else?

It's sure being seriously considered a broken agreement though, whatever excuses you want to make for Trump's actions.

a non binding one.
If it was so important, and such a good idea, obamas ass should have done it the right way.

Well, if Russia, China, France, Germany, UK, Iran, and the U.N. all thought it was a real agreement and actually did what the agreement said they should do, and if everyone except the U.S. is now treating it as a broken agreement, I don't think the excuses matter. They are only to make Trump look acceptable in doing this.
If it brings Iran around, I'll be glad. It sure doesn't look that way right now. I'm beginning to wonder if the gossip about Israel and S.A. might be true--they just want us on their side in a war with Iran. Iran and Israel gave it a good kickoff last night.

you still don't get it. It's a lost subject for you. when you don't understand what you're talking about, it's tough to have a discussion. just saying. If you can't accept that trump had the authorization to do it, you're beyond objectivity and not worth any further debate. It's obvious you can't accept the fact that trump had the authorization.

 

[Rocko]

if there is a war between israel and iran it will 100% iran's fault

Yeah but libs will blame Israel

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

it's a fact. that's who. why didn't obammy take it to congress to get the treaty? tick, tock

Because the GOP Congress wasn't approving ANYTHING Obama put on the table. Including this if he had tried it. Have you forgotten the patriotic obstruction of any Democratic initiatives during the Obama administration? Holding the line, like that?

There were many democrats against it as well. Some that didnt like it then were upset when trump pulled out

Not supporting the passing of a deal and not supporting backing out of a deal once it is made are two different things. You shouldn’t conflate them. It’s not intellectually honest.

His whole thing was about keeping sanctions on them. You believe it.

Ok. what does that have to do with what I said?

 

[Rocko]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

It’s not just Israel. They want to nuke the Arabs and us too. Liberals have a false sense of security. That’s why they don’t care if Iran gets nukes.

 

[Slade3200]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

 

[TNHarley]

it's a fact. that's who. why didn't obammy take it to congress to get the treaty? tick, tock

Because the GOP Congress wasn't approving ANYTHING Obama put on the table. Including this if he had tried it. Have you forgotten the patriotic obstruction of any Democratic initiatives during the Obama administration? Holding the line, like that?

There were many democrats against it as well. Some that didnt like it then were upset when trump pulled out

Not supporting the passing of a deal and not supporting backing out of a deal once it is made are two different things. You shouldn’t conflate them. It’s not intellectually honest.

His whole thing was about keeping sanctions on them. You believe it.

Ok. what does that have to do with what I said?

Sanctions are being put back on them. He should be happy since that was why he was against it. You can defend the hack if you want, IDC.

 

[koshergrl]

Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory: the US Opts for a Path That Can Only Lead to War

Brilliant article and 100% right.

Lol, you stupid fuckers said he was going to start a war with North Korea. What happened to that? You idiots should shut up, you’ve never been right about anything.

They said Trump would never be president.

They say a lot of dumb shit. I just don't listen to them.

 

[Rocko]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

You’re a fool

 

[Contumacious]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

It’s not just Israel. They want to nuke the Arabs and us too. Liberals have a false sense of security. That’s why they don’t care if Iran gets nukes.

HUH?


Yo dingle berry. IDENTIFY THE FIRST COUNTRY IRAN ATTACKED.

We have deposed their duly elected prime minister, we have installed a murderous Shah, we have blown up a civilian aircraft and killed all its passengers. WE ARE THE TERRORISTS


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