Trump's pyrrhic victory: The US opts for path that can only lead to war

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

It has to do with them chanting death to Israel

 

[Crepitus]

Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory: the US Opts for a Path That Can Only Lead to War

Brilliant article and 100% right.

Lol, you stupid fuckers said he was going to start a war with North Korea. What happened to that? You idiots should shut up, you’ve never been right about anything.

Ain't no peace treaty signed yet.

 

[Slade3200]

Because the GOP Congress wasn't approving ANYTHING Obama put on the table. Including this if he had tried it. Have you forgotten the patriotic obstruction of any Democratic initiatives during the Obama administration? Holding the line, like that?

There were many democrats against it as well. Some that didnt like it then were upset when trump pulled out

Not supporting the passing of a deal and not supporting backing out of a deal once it is made are two different things. You shouldn’t conflate them. It’s not intellectually honest.

His whole thing was about keeping sanctions on them. You believe it.

Ok. what does that have to do with what I said?

Sanctions are being put back on them. He should be happy since that was why he was against it. You can defend the hack if you want, IDC.

I’m still not understanding your point in relation to our discussion. I never claimed Trump didn’t have reasons for pulling out.

 

[Slade3200]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

You’re a fool

Why?

 

[Slade3200]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

It has to do with them chanting death to Israel

Do you know why?

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

If the agreement was invalid, why did Trump & Co prepare and sign and Executive Memorandum to extricate the US from something that was invalid to begin with as you claim and why was the dumb son-of-a-***** abiding by it if it was invalid since he took office 20 months ago. Do you ever put any thought into what you write before you begin to make a fool of yourself?

 

[Rocko]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

It’s not just Israel. They want to nuke the Arabs and us too. Liberals have a false sense of security. That’s why they don’t care if Iran gets nukes.

HUH?


Yo dingle berry. IDENTIFY THE FIRST COUNTRY IRAN ATTACKED.

We have deposed their duly elected prime minister, we have installed a murderous Shah, we have blown up a civilian aircraft and killed all its passengers. WE ARE THE TERRORISTS


.

Iran has attacked plenty of countries by proxy. Stop with the stupid talking points

 

[Contumacious]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

It’s not just Israel. They want to nuke the Arabs and us too. Liberals have a false sense of security. That’s why they don’t care if Iran gets nukes.

HUH?


Yo dingle berry. IDENTIFY THE FIRST COUNTRY IRAN ATTACKED.

We have deposed their duly elected prime minister, we have installed a murderous Shah, we have blown up a civilian aircraft and killed all its passengers. WE ARE THE TERRORISTS


.

Iran has attacked plenty of countries by proxy. Stop with the stupid talking points

NAME THEM

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[Rocko]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

You’re a fool

Why?

I’m guessing it’s a combination of your upbringing and genetics

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

The agreement itself. Was it ratified by the Senate? No, it was never presented as a treaty.

Did Iran sign it? No, Obama did not insist Iran sign it.

Anything else?

It's sure being seriously considered a broken agreement though, whatever excuses you want to make for Trump's actions.

a non binding one.
If it was so important, and such a good idea, obamas ass should have done it the right way.

It wasn’t a treaty but it was an agreement that many parties made with each other. Since it wasn’t a treaty Trump was able to unilaterally back out. So yes it was an official agreement made by our country

No, it was an agreement made by Obama. Nothing official about it. It wasn't even signed. At best a pinky-swear between the parties. That's not how things work.

Matis and our intel agencies saying the Iranians haven’t broken their end of the deal, Trump saying they have. It’s messy and smells political, not factual.

Considering the history of the Islamic Revolution since 1979, and the fact that inspections of military bases was prohibited, Iranian compliance is doubtful in the extreme.

 

[imawhosure]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

It is TRUE! Just because the crack smoker with big ears signed an agreement, it means NOTHING without senate approval......in fact, 2/3rds senate approval, and he couldn't even get Chucky Schmucky on board!

 

[Slade3200]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

You’re a fool

Why?

I’m guessing it’s a combination of your upbringing and genetics

How about we skip the meaningless childish insults and stick to the substance. As of now you avoided answering a question and opted for a petty insult which has led to pointless back and forth that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. In essence you are making yourself look like a fool by trying to label me a fool. Care to try again? Why does Iran want to nuke Israel?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

It has to do with them chanting death to Israel

Do you know why?

Because they’ve been trying to exterminate the Jews since their crazy ass prophet started this horrible religion?

 

[Rocko]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

You’re a fool

Why?

I’m guessing it’s a combination of your upbringing and genetics

How about we skip the meaningless childish insults and stick to the substance. As of now you avoided answering a question and opted for a petty insult which has led to pointless back and forth that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. In essence you are making yourself look like a fool by trying to label me a fool. Care to try again? Why does Iran want to nuke Israel?

There is no reasoning with you because you have no understanding of the enemy. It’s clearly willful ignorance

 

[imawhosure]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

You’re a fool

Why?

I’m guessing it’s a combination of your upbringing and genetics

How about we skip the meaningless childish insults and stick to the substance. As of now you avoided answering a question and opted for a petty insult which has led to pointless back and forth that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. In essence you are making yourself look like a fool by trying to label me a fool. Care to try again? Why does Iran want to nuke Israel?

They don't absolutely want to nuke them, they just want to destroy them. Why? RELIGION! Same reason they want to destroy us.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

It is TRUE! Just because the crack smoker with big ears signed an agreement, it means NOTHING without senate approval......in fact, 2/3rds senate approval, and he couldn't even get Chucky Schmucky on board!

It was not even presented, because he knew he'd never get it through.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

The agreement itself. Was it ratified by the Senate? No, it was never presented as a treaty.

Did Iran sign it? No, Obama did not insist Iran sign it.

Anything else?

It's sure being seriously considered a broken agreement though, whatever excuses you want to make for Trump's actions.

a non binding one.
If it was so important, and such a good idea, obamas ass should have done it the right way.

It wasn’t a treaty but it was an agreement that many parties made with each other. Since it wasn’t a treaty Trump was able to unilaterally back out. So yes it was an official agreement made by our country

No, it was an agreement made by Obama. Nothing official about it. It wasn't even signed. At best a pinky-swear between the parties. That's not how things work.

Matis and our intel agencies saying the Iranians haven’t broken their end of the deal, Trump saying they have. It’s messy and smells political, not factual.

Considering the history of the Islamic Revolution since 1979, and the fact that inspections of military bases was prohibited, Iranian compliance is doubtful in the extreme.

If the agreement never existed then why did Trump continue to approve it over the past year? Why would he need to pull out? And why would Matis and Pompeo lie about Iran complying with a non official deal? Nothing your claiming makes sense in reality

 

[pismoe]

There was never a valid agreement between the United States and Iran.

The agreement was with Obama, and Obama alone.

Oh, that's brilliant, Billy.
Who told you that?

------------------------------------------------------------------------ i think its true , there was NO treaty approved by Congress as far as i am aware OldLady .

 

[Slade3200]

The whole reason why Iran wants nukes is because they want use them to destroy Israel.
The Iranians don't want nukes for defense, they want them for offense.

You think Iran would drop a nuke on Israel? Really? Why would they want to do that?

It has to do with them chanting death to Israel

Do you know why?

Because they’ve been trying to exterminate the Jews since their crazy ass prophet started this horrible religion?

So your saying the only interest that Iran has in nuking Isreal is from a warped religion? Why Isreal?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The agreement itself. Was it ratified by the Senate? No, it was never presented as a treaty.

Did Iran sign it? No, Obama did not insist Iran sign it.

Anything else?

It's sure being seriously considered a broken agreement though, whatever excuses you want to make for Trump's actions.

a non binding one.
If it was so important, and such a good idea, obamas ass should have done it the right way.

It wasn’t a treaty but it was an agreement that many parties made with each other. Since it wasn’t a treaty Trump was able to unilaterally back out. So yes it was an official agreement made by our country

No, it was an agreement made by Obama. Nothing official about it. It wasn't even signed. At best a pinky-swear between the parties. That's not how things work.

Matis and our intel agencies saying the Iranians haven’t broken their end of the deal, Trump saying they have. It’s messy and smells political, not factual.

Considering the history of the Islamic Revolution since 1979, and the fact that inspections of military bases was prohibited, Iranian compliance is doubtful in the extreme.

If the agreement never existed then why did Trump continue to approve it over the past year?

To study, plan and consult prior to dispensing with it, as leaders do.

And why would Matis and Pompeo lie about Iran complying with a non official deal? Nothing your claiming makes sense in reality

They didn't. Compliance wasn't the main issue. The sunset clause was.