Trump will announce end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, officials say

[WEATHER53]

Quote the wording you are referring to by which Congress approved birthright citizenship to the offspring of an illegal entrant's child born on American soil.

There is not any

 

[Mac-7]

The Constitution means whatever 5 unelected fat ass SC judges say it means

They can rewrite the Constitution whenever they please

Whenever Tommy Tainant and Darkwind agree on something thats the kiss of death for reason

 

[Tommy Tainant]

take it to court, and see how THEY read it.

You are keen ro rip up your constitution. Im cool with that. You will be in court shortly. I hope you provide a road map to rip up your ridiculous 2nd amndment.

 

[Darkwind]

Whenever Tommy Tainant and Darkwind agree on something thats the kiss of death for reason

**** Taint.

I did not say that the 14th should not be amended. I said that the President of the United States lacks the authority to do it by EO/EA.

 

[Auld Phart]

You are keen ro rip up your constitution. Im cool with that. You will be in court shortly. I hope you provide a road map to rip up your ridiculous 2nd amndment.

the Second is clear, the Fourteenth isn't.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

In got that "intent" from Trump's EO.
I did not say the 14th's original intent.
The real question is "can the USSC re-interpret the 14th to agree with Trump's EO?"
Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett have been squishy, so its a crap-shoot which way they decide.

The problem to be solved is national security. The Russians and Chinese have a cottage industry bringing in pregnant women to have their "anchor babies" and then use them to flock to the US.

Russian 'birth tourists' are flocking to Miami, and Trump condos, to give birth to American citizens

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The answer for 127 years has been no. What changed?

Kick out the Russian and Chinese parents, or don't let them in in the first place. Problem solved.

BTW, the term anchor baby is a misnomer. They are not an anchor for the parents in any way. That is based on the incorrect assumption that the parents cannot be deported.

 

[Mac-7]

**** Taint.

I did not say that the 14th should not be amended. I said that the President of the United States lacks the authority to do it by EO/EA.

I see your point and somewhat agree

But trump is not begging the open borders libs to allow him to change the rules

He has issued an edict that ends birthright citizenship for transient alien mothers

Now the left has to stop him

 

[johnwk]

I did. The children of illegals are covered under provision A just like red headed children are whether you want to accept that emotionally or not.

You provided no quote {appropriate legislation} by which Congress approved birthright citizenship to the offspring of an illegal entrant's child born on American soil. And, only Congress under Section 5 of the 14th Amendment is granted power to ". . . enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."

 

[johnwk]

The answer for 127 years has been no. What changed?

Kick out the Russian and Chinese parents, or don't let them in in the first place. Problem solved.

BTW, the term anchor baby is a misnomer. They are not an anchor for the parents in any way. That is based on the incorrect assumption that the parents cannot be deported.

Stop making shit up.

 

[Darkwind]

I see your point and somewhat agree

But trump is not begging the open borders libs to allow him to change the rules

He has issued an edict that ends birthright citizenship for transient alien mothers

Now the left has to stop him

Well, it will get shot down in court.

I prefer that we start following the Constitution, which means we start having Congress pass laws and do their Constitutional duties instead of running like cowards away from hard choices.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Cite the case in which our courts were asked to decide if a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national is granted citizenship upon birth.

There is no case because that is the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Challenges have always been dealt with at lower-level courts where the 14th was upheld or the case dismissed.

A few years ago, Texas tried to deny children of illegals born in the US birth certificates without proving the citizenship of the parents. Since the state was going to lose, because other citizen parents did not face the same requirement, they settled out of court to provide the birth certificates and allow the children to obtain SS numbers and citizenship.

Are you aware the illegals cannot be denied a public-school education in the US despite the fact they are illegal and pay no taxes?

 

[Mac-7]

Praying in school was the law of the land until the 1960's when the SCOTUS "discovered" that it wasn't.

Or, Roe v Wade

The SC can change its mind

 

[Mac-7]

There is no case because that is the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Challenges have always been dealt with at lower-level courts where the 14th was upheld or the case dismissed.

A few years ago, Texas tried to deny children of illegals born in the US birth certificates without proving the citizenship of the parents. Since the state was going to lose, because other citizen parents did not face the same requirement, they settled out of court to provide the birth certificates and allow the children to obtain SS numbers and citizenship.

Are you aware the illegals cannot be denied a public-school education in the US despite the fact they are illegal and pay no taxes?

What is it about public school teachers that makes them so pro illegal alien?

I guess more anchor babies wre good for the teachers bottom line

 

[Mac-7]

Well, it will get shot down in court.

I prefer that we start following the Constitution, which means we start having Congress pass laws and do their Constitutional duties instead of running like cowards away from hard choices.

That would be the ideal situation

But we are a closely divided nation

The left wishes they could run roughshod over the rest of us also

 

[Darkwind]

That would be the ideal situation

But we are a closely divided nation

The left wishes they could run roughshod over the rest of us also

yes, they do.

 

[johnwk]

There is no case because that is the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

There is no case because, whether or not a child born to an illegal entrant foreign national while on American soil is granted citizenship upon birth under the meaning of the 14th Amendment, has never been presented to the court for an opinion (interpretation). Current policy, and only current policy [prior to Trump's Executive Order} grants such citizenship. Elections have consequences. Trump has changed the unwritten policy in question.

 

[Curried Goats]

There is no case because, whether or not a child born to an illegal entrant foreign national while on American soil is granted citizenship upon birth under the meaning of the 14th Amendment, has never been presented to the court for an opinion (interpretation). Current policy, and only current policy [prior to Trump's Executive Order} grants such citizenship. Elections have consequences. Trump has changed the unwritten policy in question.

If a Trump presidency leads to an affirmation of frail white cuckolding by the Supreme Court I'll consider his administration a success!

 

[johnwk]

Are you aware the illegals cannot be denied a public-school education in the US despite the fact they are illegal and pay no taxes?

I'm aware the court made shit up in the case you are referring to because public schools are a privilege created by state governments and the 14th Amendment states in crystal clear language: No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States ... not persons or the children of illegal entrant foreign nationals.

 

[Slade3200]

ironic

What’s ironic?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Congress cannot clarify the Constitution. The courts have already decided in 1898. Want it changed? Amend the Constitution or forever be subjected to the current wording if that is what you want.

Courts clarify ambiguous statements all the time. They can address "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." But yes an Amendment would be the ideal way of disposing of the issue.