Trump wants $230,000,000.00 from the US taxpayer.

[ThisIsMe]

It’s not. We don’t have to consider procedures for declassification because there was absolutely no reason to believe any of these documents had been declassified.

If that procedure gives him the ability to unilaterally declassify then isnt it possible that he did?

It doesn’t beg the question. Whether Trump declassified them is irrelevant to the subpoena. He was legally obligated to comply with the subpoena and didn’t.

I understand that he defied a subpoena, the question is, if he was able to declassify information, should there have even been a sunpoena?

Nope. Trump is complaining that the investigation and prosecution of him was something so egregious that he deserves compensation. Biden’s case has zero to do with that.

I understand that bidens case has zero to do with trumps $230M claims, but we were talking about lawfare and how biden was not charged with his wilful retention and disclosure of classified material.

 

[Rawley]

Now its $300MM.

$300 BILLION

 

[midcan5]

Trump, a spoiled, inheritance wealthy doofus, is fun to watch. His fans and voters still cheer as political absurdity appeals to the uneducated. But they and the wealthy give to him as they hope for something in return. What a comedy America has become.

When comedy becomes a threat: Trump vs. late-night hosts - The Cougar

This is not just about punishing comedians; when ordinary people are also being targeted, it becomes a threat to free speech

thedailycougar.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

$300 BILLION

Oops. Glitch. Thank you.

 

[Marener]

If that procedure gives him the ability to unilaterally declassify then isnt it possible that he did?

Lots of things are possible but when there’s no reason to believe it occurred, then there’s no reason to consider it.

I understand that he defied a subpoena, the question is, if he was able to declassify information, should there have even been a sunpoena?

It absolutely was necessary. Mishandling classified documents deserves to be investigated. If nothing else, the current government is entitled to assess any risk to national security as a result of these decisions.

I understand that bidens case has zero to do with trumps $230M claims, but we were talking about lawfare and how biden was not charged with his wilful retention and disclosure of classified material.

There’s no lawfare in investigating mishandling of classified documents. Biden can’t be charged by the DoJ while president. Didn’t you know that?

 

[Luckyone]

I see no evidence that he has demanded this. He vaguely alluded to the lawsuit, but there was no evidence he demanded anything except from "sources familiar with the matter".

 

[Luckyone]

If this kind of action would have been done by Biden in this open manner, the Republicans would be screaming to high heaven and the Democrats themselves would be condemning him. Nonetheless, since this is God Trump, the Trump supporters are saying nothing!

This is open and OUTRIGHT corruption to the nth degree. It is also laughing in the face or all Americans, who will not only have to pay for it but have to endure this man continuing to do this without any restraints put on him.

 

[JimH52]

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The FBI investigation revealed that classified documents were found in President Joe Biden's garage, stored in open containers alongside personal items. These documents included materials from his time as a senator and vice president, which were not kept in secure locations as required by national security protocols.
The investigation, led by special counsel Robert Hur, concluded that Biden "willfully" retained classified materials".
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Three Facts and a Fiction: Not-So-Secret Documents

What are the security impacts of Presidents Biden and Trump stashing classified documents at their homes?

www.american.edu

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4457207-biden-classified-documents-report-takeaways/

Has Biden asked tax payers to pay his legal bills? Magats do not tell the v truth...EVER.

 

[debbiedowner]

President Trump is demanding that the Justice Department pay him about $230 million in compensation for the federal investigations into him, according to people familiar with the matter, who added that any settlement might ultimately be approved by senior department officials who defended him or those in his orbit.

The situation has no parallel in American history, as Mr. Trump, a presidential candidate, was pursued by federal law enforcement and eventually won the election, taking over the very government that must now review his claims. It is also the starkest example yet of potential ethical conflicts created by installing the president’s former lawyers atop the Justice Department.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/us/politics/trump-justice-department-compensation.html

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Given that the Trump Administration is an open sewer of corruption, it is no surprise that he wants 1/4 billion from us. Trump has his sycophants in place, so he will be paid what he wants. The Trump family which has made billions off his cryptocurrency scams also has an insatiable appetite for more money. The monetization of the presidency continues. Trump's greed has no bounds.

Let's face it. The US we knew is no longer. We live in a kleptocracy.

No doubt to use to pay for the new east wing that he is supposedly paying out of his own pocket with help from donors. If he gets it then I guess it would be from his own pocket via tax payers.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Lots of things are possible but when there’s no reason to believe it occurred, then there’s no reason to consider it.

Well, he claimed he did. Investigate that?

It absolutely was necessary. Mishandling classified documents deserves to be investigated. If nothing else, the current government is entitled to assess any risk to national security as a result of these decisions.

Increase again, biden had classified documents for 30 years. Nobody needed to assess the risk then...

There’s no lawfare in investigating mishandling of classified documents. Biden can’t be charged by the DoJ while president. Didn’t you know that?

Yeah, and then when he wasnt president anymore, they found he was guilty and decided to give him a pass.

 

[ThisIsMe]

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"Sources say".

But yeah, after talking with Marener, I already conceded that fact.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump, a spoiled, inheritance wealthy doofus, is fun to watch. His fans and voters still cheer as political absurdity appeals to the uneducated. But they and the wealthy give to him as they hope for something in return. What a comedy America has become.

When comedy becomes a threat: Trump vs. late-night hosts - The Cougar

This is not just about punishing comedians; when ordinary people are also being targeted, it becomes a threat to free speech

thedailycougar.com

I call it, "ignorance is bliss".

 

[Marener]

Well, he claimed he did. Investigate that?

He never told the DoJ that, and certainly never before the investigation became public.

Increase again, biden had classified documents for 30 years. Nobody needed to assess the risk then...

But they did. There was a full investigation with a special counsel. The classified documents were largely bios for long dead Soviet leaders that he had from overseas trips.

Yeah, and then when he wasnt president anymore, they found he was guilty and decided to give him a pass.

Who gave him a pass? Trump is in charge.

 

[Moonglow]

Why did Trump wait till now to make his claim?

 

[ThisIsMe]

He never told the DoJ that, and certainly never before the investigation became public.

True. Cant argue that. He didnt tell anyone.

But they did. There was a full investigation with a special counsel. The classified documents were largely bios for long dead Soviet leaders that he had from overseas trips.

Were they classified? The rules of classification dont get to be ignored because they were of outdated materials. As you have argued very vigorously there are rules to declassification. The vice president nor a senator do not have broad declassification authority.

Who gave him a pass? Trump is in charge.

Yeah, Hur gave him a pass. Now, why weren't democrats upset about that. I mean, you all were upset because trump wasnt put in jail. You should be up in arms because Biden has been shown to have committed crimes, and he got off free and clear.

 

[Marener]

True. Cant argue that. He didnt tell anyone.

Meaning the investigation into the handling of the documents was completely proper and his claim that he was injured because of it is totally frivolous.

Were they classified? The rules of classification dont get to be ignored because they were of outdated materials. As you have argued very vigorously there are rules to declassification. The vice president nor a senator do not have broad declassification authority.

Classification standards have changed over the decades, and classified documents become unclassified after a period of time. The main point is that aren’t a threat to national security.

Hur had no authority to indict Biden, so he couldn’t “give him a pass”.

 

[struth]

If this kind of action would have been done by Biden in this open manner, the Republicans would be screaming to high heaven and the Democrats themselves would be condemning him. Nonetheless, since this is God Trump, the Trump supporters are saying nothing!

This is open and OUTRIGHT corruption to the nth degree. It is also laughing in the face or all Americans, who will not only have to pay for it but have to endure this man continuing to do this without any restraints put on him.

The claims were filed with Xiden was in office, they were filed in 2023. The fact they are still open and highlights Trump has a strong case.

 

[struth]

Why did Trump wait till now to make his claim?

He didn't, they were filed in 2023, and another in 2024.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Meaning the investigation into the handling of the documents was completely proper and his claim that he was injured because of it is totally frivolous.

Ive already agreed his claim for $230M shouldn't happen.

Classification standards have changed over the decades, and classified documents become unclassified after a period of time. The main point is that aren’t a threat to national security.

The documents haven't been declassified, at least at the point he had them. The investigation said biden was found to have wilfully retained and disclosed classified information.

Hur had no authority to indict Biden, so he couldn’t “give him a pass”.

He got a pass because Hur said biden would present himself as an elderly well meaning man with a poor memory. Democrats said "yep! Thats good enough for me!" Because..partisanship I guess.

 

[struth]

Ive already agreed his claim for $230M shouldn't happen.



The documents haven't been declassified, at least at the point he had them. The investigation said biden was found to have wilfully retained and disclosed classified information.



He got a pass because Hur said biden would present himself as an elderly well meaning man with a poor memory. Democrats said "yep! Thats good enough for me!" Because..partisanship I guess.

Well, the 230 figure is from two lawsuit claims, the first, lodged back in 2023 deals with the Russian hoax, the second the privacy violations with the Xiden raid on his home. To say they shouldn't happen, seems a little hasty....he certainly has a right to file them, the fact they remain open this long is very telling about what he is claiming and the Govt's lack of a defense.