Trump wants $230,000,000.00 from the US taxpayer.

[struth]

Meaning the investigation into the handling of the documents was completely proper and his claim that he was injured because of it is totally frivolous.

Classification standards have changed over the decades, and classified documents become unclassified after a period of time. The main point is that aren’t a threat to national security.

Hur had no authority to indict Biden, so he couldn’t “give him a pass”.

Of course Hur could have recommended Xiden be indicted, and then the Congress remove him from office, then the DOJ indict him.

With that said Hur made clear Xiden was senile and thus couldn't be prosecuted for his crimes, thus no recommendation was made.

Ironically even knowing that, dembots still voted for him to be their nominee.

 

[Marener]

Ive already agreed his claim for $230M shouldn't happen.

The investigation was totally appropriate. But what can anyone do? If Trump wants to give himself $230 million, there’s nothing anyone can do about it. That’s screwed up.

The documents haven't been declassified, at least at the point he had them. The investigation said biden was found to have wilfully retained and disclosed classified information.

If the investigation said that, they’d have recommended charges. They said they couldn’t prove it in court, which is the standard for prosecution.

There was far less evidence against Biden than against Trump. And a far greater threat to national security.

He got a pass because Hur said biden would present himself as an elderly well meaning man with a poor memory. Democrats said "yep! Thats good enough for me!" Because..partisanship I guess.

Hur isn’t a left wing hack. He’s actually a Republican. But, more importantly he’s well regarded as a fair prosecutor who takes his job seriously and doesn’t act out of partisanship.

Accepting his assessment isn’t partisanship. It’s how things should work.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well, he claimed he did. Investigate that?



Increase again, biden had classified documents for 30 years. Nobody needed to assess the risk then...



Yeah, and then when he wasnt president anymore, they found he was guilty and decided to give him a pass.

When foreign countries look at our current state of affairs and wonder how our country can embarrass itself so badly and tolerate such an obviously corrupt criminal as our leader, we should just send them your posts.

"Thats how. And they vote. "

 

[struth]

When foreign countries look at our current state of affairs and wonder how our country can embarrass itself so badly and tolerate such an obviously corrupt criminal as our leader, we should just send them your posts.

"Thats how. And they vote. "

Queenie! Where you been hiding??

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Queenie! Where you been hiding??

Sorry, youre typically on ignore.

 

[struth]

Sorry, youre typically on ignore.

I don’t have you in ignore queenie

 

[ThisIsMe]

Well, the 230 figure is from two lawsuit claims, the first, lodged back in 2023 deals with the Russian hoax, the second the privacy violations with the Xiden raid on his home. To say they shouldn't happen, seems a little hasty....he certainly has a right to file them, the fact they remain open this long is very telling about what he is claiming and the Govt's lack of a defense.

Well, I just dont think a president should be suing the government for personal gain.

 

[ThisIsMe]

If the investigation said that, they’d have recommended charges. They said they couldn’t prove it in court, which is the standard for prosecution.

But the investigation did say that.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/08/politics/white-house-special-counsels-report-response

Special counsel Robert Hur released a searing report Thursday that concluded President Joe Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified military and national security information but recommended he not face charges after a yearlong investigation into his handling of classified documents.

I dont see any democrats demanding post presidency criminal charges.

There was far less evidence against Biden than against Trump. And a far greater threat to national security.

There was every bit the evidence against Biden.

Hur isn’t a left wing hack. He’s actually a Republican. But, more importantly he’s well regarded as a fair prosecutor who takes his job seriously and doesn’t act out of partisanship.

Of course, because anyone who suggest a democrat shouldn't face punishment is "being fair" but if its a republican then they are a partisan hack.

Accepting his assessment isn’t partisanship. It’s how things should work.

Do you support justice or not?

 

[ThisIsMe]

When foreign countries look at our current state of affairs and wonder how our country can embarrass itself so badly and tolerate such an obviously corrupt criminal as our leader, we should just send them your posts.

"Thats how. And they vote. "

lol, obviously foreign countries are not embarrassed when dems control the government because they know well bend over and let them slide it in hard when they are in control. Other countries probably laugh at us when dems are in control because they know we will be their stooges.

 

[Marener]

But the investigation did say that.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/08/politics/white-house-special-counsels-report-response


I dont see any democrats demanding post presidency criminal charges.

Not sure why you expect Dems to demand charges when the Republican independent counsel doesn’t recommend them and the Trump administration doesn’t pursue them. It’s pretty clear there’s no legitimate case.

There was every bit the evidence against Biden.

You’re ignoring that Trump committed obstruction of justice, witness tampering, evidence destruction. Not to mention all his self incriminating statements admitting that he took the documents knowinging and willingly.

Of course, because anyone who suggest a democrat shouldn't face punishment is "being fair" but if its a republican then they are a partisan hack.

We rely on the power of critical thinking. It should be apparent to you the difference punishing political enemies and actual crimes.

Do you support justice or not?

I accept impartial justice, but that’s not what we are getting anymore.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Not sure why you expect Dems to demand charges when the Republican independent counsel doesn’t recommend them and the Trump administration doesn’t pursue them. It’s pretty clear there’s no legitimate case.

Im just trying to understand why democrats are not calling for charges on biden when he broke the law. If the situations were exactly reversed, you would be.

You’re ignoring that Trump committed obstruction of justice, witness tampering, evidence destruction. Not to mention all his self incriminating statements admitting that he took the documents knowinging and willingly.

And im saying that biden removed classified information from its place of custody when he was a senator. Senators have no legal right to do so. He also took classified material home as a VP. He kept all of this information in at least 2 different places, one being the Penn-Biden center, which is partially funded by Chinese donors. The things found in his garage were in boxes in the garage (unsecure) where anyone who had access to the house could see them (cleaning staff, construction workers or maintenance workers), and at the Penn center, who knows who saw them.

Hur said in his report that Biden WILFULLY disclosed some of this material.

Democrats seem uninterested in these facts.

We rely on the power of critical thinking. It should be apparent to you the difference punishing political enemies and actual crimes.

No, lol. Thats not it. The left started this witch hunt before trump was even elected the first time. They have been on a witch hunt for over 10 years now. You only have to look at the statements from leftys to see the personal hatred for trump to know, all of it is political.

I accept impartial justice, but that’s not what we are getting anymore.

Apparently you dont. You try to say that biden should get a pass because ....well, "he didnt commit any REAL crimes"...except the charges that trump was accused of...retention and mishandling of classified material is the exact same thing biden did.

 

[Marener]

Im just trying to understand why democrats are not calling for charges on biden when he broke the law. If the situations were exactly reversed, you would be.

A nonpartisan prosecutor didn’t call for charges and the very partisan Trump administration isn’t calling for charges.

But you’re upset that Dems aren’t? Nonsensical.

And im saying that biden removed classified information from its place of custody when he was a senator. Senators have no legal right to do so. He also took classified material home as a VP. He kept all of this information in at least 2 different places, one being the Penn-Biden center, which is partially funded by Chinese donors. The things found in his garage were in boxes in the garage (unsecure) where anyone who had access to the house could see them (cleaning staff, construction workers or maintenance workers), and at the Penn center, who knows who saw them.

Hur said in his report that Biden WILFULLY disclosed some of this material.

Democrats seem uninterested in these facts.

And you’re uninterested in the fact that Hur said that charges aren’t warranted.

No, lol. Thats not it. The left started this witch hunt before trump was even elected the first time. They have been on a witch hunt for over 10 years now. You only have to look at the statements from leftys to see the personal hatred for trump to know, all of it is political.

You seem uninterested in the mountains of evidence showing Trump violated the law. Trump was investigated and prosecuted appropriately, but is trying to scam the government out of hundreds of millions because of it.

Apparently you dont. You try to say that biden should get a pass because ....well, "he didnt commit any REAL crimes"...except the charges that trump was accused of...retention and mishandling of classified material is the exact same thing biden did.

Trump did far more than Biden, as I’ve previously stated.

The way justice works in this country is that a prosecutor will press charges when the evidence is sufficient to get a conviction.

There was more than ample evidence against Trump. There was insufficient evidence against Biden.

Both were investigated by non-partisan independent and experience prosecutors. You just refuse to accept their conclusions and the evidence.

 

[ThisIsMe]

A nonpartisan prosecutor didn’t call for charges and the very partisan Trump administration isn’t calling for charges.

But you’re upset that Dems aren’t? Nonsensical.

No, im not upset about anything, im saying, democrats are so concerned about justice that, in spite of that investigation finding that Biden committed crimes, dems are using the excuse "well it was a right wing investigator who didnt recommend charges so its all good. You all would be calling for his removal if it were a left wing investigation who did the same to trump.


You forget, I dont care if trump is prosecuted and has to go to prison, ive always been very consistent on that, I just quesrion why dems wont hold their own politicians to account the same way.

And you’re uninterested in the fact that Hur said that charges aren’t warranted.

Really...he said that Biden did indeed break the law, but charges weren't warranted? You dont question that? You seem to be of the mindset that "well he said its ok so why bother". Let me ask you, if you are so uninterested in the crimes that biden committed, then why are you interested in the crimes that trump committed?

You seem uninterested in the mountains of evidence showing Trump violated the law. Trump was investigated and prosecuted appropriately, but is trying to scam the government out of hundreds of millions because of it.

Did I ever say i was uninterested? Ive ALWAYS said, if trump is guilty of crimes, he should be punished. I only am interested in why you'll never find a democrat who will say the same thing.

Trump did far more than Biden, as I’ve previously stated.

Did both break the law? Do you think if two people robbed a bank, that the one who stole less would be let off the hook because his crime "wasnt as bad" as the other?

The way justice works in this country is that a prosecutor will press charges when the evidence is sufficient to get a conviction.

Lol, Hur said biden DID commit crimes. Why did nobody on the left call for indictments the moment he left office? I know the reason...you all dont hold your own to the same standard.

There was more than ample evidence against Trump. There was insufficient evidence against Biden.

Again, Hur said biden DID wilfully retain and disclose classified information. He didnt decide to recommend indictment because he felt biden would be seen as an elderly man with a poor memory. He didnt hold back the indictment because he didnt think biden was guilty, he held back because he didnt think a jury would convict, not for lack of evidence, but because they would feel sorry for him.

Thats why he didn't release the audio tape of the interviews

Both were investigated by non-partisan independent and experience prosecutors. You just refuse to accept their conclusions and the evidence.

No, I only see one side being prosecuted for the same crime. If they had gone after biden, you and I wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[Marener]

No, I only see one side being prosecuted for the same crime. If they had gone after biden, you and I wouldn't be having this conversation.

Because they aren’t the same crime.

There are substantial differences in facts and circumstances which you choose to ignore.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Because they aren’t the same crime.

There are substantial differences in facts and circumstances which you choose to ignore.

They are the same. Both wilfully retained and disclosed classified material. That's the crux of it. You're trying to say that since trump didn't give back all the materials, that somehow this exonerates biden.

 

[Marener]

They are the same. Both wilfully retained and disclosed classified material. That's the crux of it. You're trying to say that since trump didn't give back all the materials, that somehow this exonerates biden.

The evidence is drastically different in both cases, and you’re still ignoring the extra crimes committed by Trump including obstruction of justice, evidence destruction, witness tampering.

You can’t just ignore the facts that don’t fit your narrative.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They are the same.

An embarrassing lie, of course. As any 6 year old can see by reading the different charges and looking at the publicly available evidence.

People, stop giving these idiotic lies attention. They are designed solely to beg for attention.

 

[The piss off patriot]

Um do you know that anyone can search this and find out in two seconds by using various platforms. I also find it very hilarious that the op has used an article that is hiding behind a paywall so good luck with trying to read it for free. Oh wait a minute, is this the same outlet that has been caught lying in the past? Allegedly,

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Um do you know that anyone can search this and find out in two seconds by using various platforms. I also find it very hilarious that the op has used an article that is hiding behind a paywall so good luck with trying to read it for free. Oh wait a minute, is this the same outlet that has been caught lying in the past? Allegedly,

And we all know how much Trumpers care about lies.

 

[otto105]

I hope he gets paid.....Just take the money from NY.

The bill is coming to you fuckup.