Trump, the socialist we don't want back into office.

[Skylar]

You can believe that little fantasy all you like, but unlike Biden, Trump is an America first candidate and ex-president. He wouldn't do anything to hurt the country like tell people not to vote. We have primary elections. If Trump loses that, then he will also realize it's because the Communist party made sure he couldn't win, and will direct his anger at them if anybody. He will ask his supporters to vote for whoever the Republican candidate is.

Fantasy? Tulsi couldn't even qualify for latter dem debates because her polling numbers were so low. Her highest polling results were around 2%. That's not going to break the democratic party.

Trump's support among GOP voters is enormous. Roughly a third of Americans are self identifying MAGA supporters. A full 70% of Republicans think that Trump has a positive impact on the GOP.

You're ignoring all of it....why?

Either Trump gets the nomination....and provides Biden with his dream oppoonent (that Biden has already beaten easily) or Trump burns the GOP to the ground.

Tulsi isn't doing shit. She announced that she was leaving the democratic party in October of 2020. And Biden won by a landslide.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Fantasy? Tulsi couldn't even qualify for latter dem debates because her polling numbers were so low. Her highest polling results were around 2%. That's not going to break the democratic party.

Trump's support among GOP voters is enormous. Roughly a third of Americans are self identifying MAGA supporters. A full 70% of Republicans think that Trump has a positive impact on the GOP.

You're ignoring all of it....why?

Either Trump gets the nomination....and provides Biden with his dream oppoonent (that Biden has already beaten easily) or Trump burns the GOP to the ground.

Tulsi isn't doing shit. She announced that she was leaving the democratic party in October of 2020. And Biden won by a landslide.

She didn't leave the party until a few weeks ago. It had nothing to do with Dementia. And if it were a normal election, Trump would have won. But they pushed mail-in voting, and mail-in draws the stupidest and politically uninformed people to vote. He promised to kill our energy, he promised to do everything possible to disarm Americans, he promised an open border. Now you tell me, WTF would vote for that agenda unless you were completely stupid to politics and issues?

 

[Markle]

Bullshit. I have every right to complain. You dumb motherfuckers are electing shitty candidates, and you're doing it on purpose. For fuck's sake stop it. You say I'm doing nothing. Yet you're throwing gasoline on the fire. Can't you see that? Stop. Just stop.

 

[g5000]

The better question is how is that working out for America. We all know the answer to that one. So thanks for stopping the red wave.

When you can't get your own team to vote for you, it's a really good idea to figure out why that is.

And that reason is that the GOP has thrown out every last principle they claimed to revere. It turned out to be complete bullshit.

In their idiotic desperation to kow-tow to the most primitive, ignorant, and stupid people in their ranks, instead of throwing them out, they drove away a far greater number of sane people who actually believe in the things the party said it believed in, too.

But instead of doing some navel gazing and returning to their principles, the party has people like you blaming the Democrats for the way things are, and that is really sad.

If you keep letting someone shit all over your furniture, it's not your neighbor's fault that people like visiting his home more than yours, even if his home smells like cat piss.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When you can't get your own team to vote for you, it's a really good idea to figure out why that is.

And that reason is that the GOP has thrown out every last principle they claimed to revere. It turned out to be complete bullshit.

In their idiotic desperation to kow-tow to the most primitive, ignorant, and stupid people in their ranks, instead of throwing them out, they drove away a far greater number of sane people who actually believe in the things the party said it believed in, too.

But instead of doing some navel gazing and returning to their principles, the party has people like you blaming the Democrats for the way things are, and that is really sad.

If you keep letting someone shit all over your furniture, it's not your neighbor's fault that people like visiting his home more than yours, even if his home smells like cat piss.

Of course I blame the party in charge for how bad things are. They control everything and will until January. Even then, they will only have so much power to stop Dementia. As far as the Republican candidates are concerned, we did support candidates that were conservatives or constitutionalists. That's not to mention Republicans had 5 million more voters come out for them than the Democrats did. The only reason they had any success is because Dementia was promising college loan bailouts, and it's very difficult to fight free government money.

 

[dblack]

It's an observation of fact. You people are voting for, and electing, shitty candidates. No one else is to blame.

 

[Skylar]

She didn't leave the party until a few weeks ago. It had nothing to do with Dementia. And if it were a normal election, Trump would have won. But they pushed mail-in voting, and mail-in draws the stupidest and politically uninformed people to vote. He promised to kill our energy, he promised to do everything possible to disarm Americans, he promised an open border. Now you tell me, WTF would vote for that agenda unless you were completely stupid to politics and issues?

My bad. I got my years mixed up.

She left...and no one gave a shit. Her presidential run drew almost no democratic support, peaking at around 2%. She couldn't even qualify for latter primary debates, dropping out with her tail between her legs.

She's not breaking the democratic party. That's your fantasy.....backed by nothing.

Trump's support is enormous within the GOP, with a full third of the entire electorate considering themselves MAGA, a political movement Trump founded. And about half of republicans saying they'd back him.

"A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows that 47 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say they would back Trump if the Republican presidential primary were held today."

Trump will not take losing laying down. If he loses the 2024 republican primary, he will rage, claim fraud, demand a do-over, insist the system was rigged. Just like he did in the Iowa primary he lost. Just like he did in the 2020 election he lost. Just like he did in 2022 midterms when his candidates lost.

Hell, just like he did in 2012, when Romney lost. Its a tune that's a decade old now.

 

[dblack]

Yeah, and we can only stop OD"s if people quit using drugs. Good luck trying to make people think like you.

And would you use that as an excuse to use drugs yourself? Because that's the logic you're defending here.

 

[Markle]

When you can't get your own team to vote for you, it's a really good idea to figure out why that is.

And that reason is that the GOP has thrown out every last principle they claimed to revere. It turned out to be complete bullshit.

In their idiotic desperation to kow-tow to the most primitive, ignorant, and stupid people in their ranks, instead of throwing them out, they drove away a far greater number of sane people who actually believe in the things the party said it believed in, too.

But instead of doing some navel gazing and returning to their principles, the party has people like you blaming the Democrats for the way things are, and that is really sad.

If you keep letting someone shit all over your furniture, it's not your neighbor's fault that people like visiting his home more than yours, even if his home smells like cat piss.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And would you use that as an excuse to use drugs yourself? Because that's the logic you're defending here.

No, what I'm saying is you're a one man army. You think if you do things X way, everybody will follow your brilliant strategy.

Like I said, it's a fantasy like hitting the super lotto or stopping all people from using recreational narcotics. It's simply a dream of yours so distanced from reality it's a complete joke.

If you live for another 50 years, you will never change our election system. That's why I do everything I can to try and make it better by voting the worst out.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My bad. I got my years mixed up.

She left...and no one gave a shit. Her presidential run drew almost no democratic support, peaking at around 2%. She couldn't even qualify for latter primary debates, dropping out with her tail between her legs.

She's not breaking the democratic party. That's your fantasy.....backed by nothing.

Trump's support is enormous within the GOP, with a full third of the entire electorate considering themselves MAGA, a political movement Trump founded. And about half of republicans saying they'd back him.

"A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows that 47 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say they would back Trump if the Republican presidential primary were held today."

Trump will not take losing laying down. If he loses the 2024 republican primary, he will rage, claim fraud, demand a do-over, insist the system was rigged. Just like he did in the Iowa primary he lost. Just like he did in the 2020 election he lost. Just like he did in 2022 midterms when his candidates lost.

Hell, just like he did in 2012, when Romney lost. Its a tune that's a decade old now.

I watched the Trump speech after the election. He was proud of his record and successes after the mid-terms, so you may not know him like you think you do. The RNC has no choice but to support Trump if the constituency chooses him as our rep. If he loses, then he lost and I think he would just accept that and do whatever he can to get Dementia (or whoever runs for that party) out of there.

 

[g5000]

As you know, President Trump had nothing to do with the massive inflation we are suffering through today.

And here we have one of the tards of which I spoke.

 

[dblack]

No, what I'm saying is you're a one man army. You think if you do things X way, everybody will follow your brilliant strategy.

I don't think that, so you can pack that strawman away. I'm not expecting my actions to make any radical change. Before that can happen, we'll need to convince the rest of you fools to stop making things worse. Then we can work on making them better.

Like I said, it's a fantasy like hitting the super lotto ...

Nope. Nothing like that. I'm just refusing to make things worse.

If you live for another 50 years, you will never change our election system.

Our election system is already changing. RCV is happening at the local and state level. It's only a matter of time before people demand it federally. Hopefully it will happen a lot sooner than 50 years. I don't think we'll last that long with lesser evils running things.

That's why I do everything I can to try and make it better by voting the worst out.

You're fooling yourself. In our system, you can't vote "against" anyone. You keep steadfastly ignoring that, but it's the truth.

 

[Skylar]

I watched the Trump speech after the election. He was proud of his record and successes after the mid-terms, so you may not know him like you think you do. The RNC has no choice but to support Trump if the constituency chooses him as our rep. If he loses, then he lost and I think he would just accept that and do whatever he can to get Dementia (or whoever runs for that party) out of there.

He's raging about his losses, insisting that Lake be 'installed' as governor for an election she lost.

But if Trump lost the republican nomination in 2024, it would be different? Why? He's been insisting that all the elections were 'rigged' (primaries, presidential, midterm) since 2012.

He's got roughly half of the GOP behind him in a presidential run. If he pulled that support from the GOP upon losing, the GOP is fucked.

And they know it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He's raging about his losses, insisting that Lake be 'installed' as governor for an election he lost.

But if Trump lost the republican nomination in 2024, it would be different? Why? He's been insisting that all the elections were 'rigged' (primaries, presidential, midterm) since 2012.

He's got roughly half of the GOP behind him in a presidential run. If he pulled that support from the GOP upon losing, the GOP is fucked.

And they know it.

Of course they would be assuming that's what he'd do. But you are just projecting right now. You have no idea if he'll even stay in the race come two years from now. All projection.

 

[Skylar]

Of course they would be assuming that's what he'd do. But you are just projecting right now. You have no idea if he'll even stay in the race come two years from now. All projection.

Projecting? I'm not quoting me. I'm quoting Trump.

Trump has said he's running for president in 2024. How then am I projecting by claiming he's running for president in 2024?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Projecting? I'm not quoting me. I'm quoting Trump.

Trump has said he's running for president in 2024. How then am I projecting by claiming he's running for president in 2024?

Projecting what he'd do if he doesn't get the nomination.

 

[Skylar]

Projecting what he'd do if he doesn't get the nomination.

You mean what he did in 2022, 2020, 2019, and 2012?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The more I look at the list of Trumps accomplishments, the more I support DeSantis. At least DeSantis isn't a socialist like Trump.

lol

Wrong.

Trump is no ‘socialist’ – he’s very much a conservative.

And what Trump proposed isn’t ‘socialism.’

Conservatives are as ignorant as they are dishonest.

As for DeSantis, he’s as much a rightwing neo-fascist despot as Trump.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You mean what he did in 2022, 2020, 2019, and 2012?

So what actions has he taken against the Republican party outside of 2020? Again, I watched nearly his entire speech after the mid-terms. Nothing like you're projecting.