What is with you people that think a President is the person responsible for spending money? Didn't any of your schools teach you how government actually works?
I learned after school that ALL ( as in EVERY PENNY) in new spending has to go into an appropriations bill. And that bill has to either be signed into law by the president. Or it has to be veto overridden. Every dime of spending I accuse Trump of being responsible for, is the NEW spending that he signed into law.
To date, Trump only vetoed 1 spending bill. And that was because it didn't spend enough.
So the question is, where did you go to school? And why didn't they teach you basic government 101.
Lobbyists don't get people elected--voters do.
Wrong again, skippy. Lobbyist throw in money, through back door channels of their choice candidates all the time. You've heard of PAC's? Who TF do you think runs most of them?
If a representative doesn't do their job (like Lez Cheney) they get voted out
Then explain McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden (until he was the VP), and the 100 others who've been up there, doing a lousy job for the last 20 years?
and all the lobbyists in the country can't help them.
Lobbyist do help them. They help them a lot. Maybe you should do some research into how destructive lobbyist are to our elected officials and our republic. I sense a severe lack of knowledge from you on this issue.
Now, as far as Trump is concerned, who was the last President that governed more conservatively than President Trump?
Does that even matter? Whataboutism isn't a debate tactic anymore. It's an obvious sign of trying to change the subject. So don't even try that with me, skippy.
He did wonders on the border problem,
He slowed the amount of illegals coming here. That's a fact. But he didn't address the real solution to solving the immigration problem. That deals with monetary policy, in which I've explained in length on this forum.
fuel was relatively cheap
It was cheap because Russia and Saudi Arabia were in an oil price war. But it wasn't going to stay cheap for very long, because in April, 9 months before Trump left the white house, he traveled to Saudi and struck a deal with them to slow oil production. This initiated the oil bust cycle. By June of that say year, just 2 months later, US oil companies started their oil bust cycle too. By the end of June, record number of lay offs were occurring the US oil fields. Drillers, derrick hands, pipeliners, Xray techs, geologist were all on the chopping blocks, per US oil execs.
And because the economy was coming to a crawl, due to covid, it took a few months to use up the excess oil they had in reserves. Not to mention they still had oil coming from Russia and Saudi Arabia that they had to refine and put into the market. By the time Biden took office, that excess oil was used up and the oil futures market ramped up their part and started pricing oil higher and higher on the stock market.
And since the US oil companies were already in a bust cycle, there was not going to be any excess oil. Only just enough to supply the countries needs. This is how the futures market gets away with pricing oil at $140ppb.
even amid the best economy we had in 50 years.
It wasn't the best economy in 50 years. Not even close. Hell, only 40 years ago, the USD would buy 4 times what it buys today. It only looked like it because the economy was in recovery stages. All the money that Obama borrowed and pumped into the economy, only made it look good. Trump got into office during an economic recovery stage.
Fact: With every new president, the economy is still going under the previous presidents policies. It's takes almost 2 years for a new presidents policies to start showing up.
January of 2017 2.5% Trump took office.
January of 2021 1.4% Trump left office.
July of 2021, only 6 months into Bidens presidency,
it was 5.365%
And steadily rising. Biden hadn't even had any economic policies enacted at that point.
He lowered taxes for businesses and workers alike.
His tax plan eliminated so many tax deductions that it was revenue neutral to the government. I was a small business at the time, and one of my biggest deductions was eliminated. I ended up paying $600 more. BTW, my tax lady was a die hard Trump fan. She ran the numbers in so many different ways and the only way I could come out owing something about $100, was to fudge the numbers so much that it would have been flagged by IRS computers.
He attacked the main stream media countless times.
Whoop ti do. So did we.
He supported our police and military,
He did that. And I support him for that.
stopped weirdos in dresses from getting into our armed forces,
Something else I supported about Trump.
and even appointed SC justices that led to the overturning of Row vs Wade.
He did his job. That's what he was supposed to do. Praising him for it, is like giving a kid a participation trophy.
How much more conservative can you get?
Well let's see. Where do I start?
1. You veto spending bills that include abortions, gender studies and hydro dams in Afghanistan.
2. You don't notch the 2A with a bump stock ban.
3. You don't give money to countries like Ukraine or Israel.
4. When you promise to take soldiers out of Syria and Afghanistan, you follow through by taking all the soldiers out.
5. When it comes to border security, you solve the problem by addressing the monetary reasons they come here. Not lie about Mexico paying for the wall. You do things that are going to allow the American middle class wage to be somewhere around $10hr, instead of the $45 per hour it is now. Mexicans make as much in one day here than they make in almost 2 weeks in Mexico.
By equalizing our currencies, 90% of the mexicans (and other countries) have no monetary reason to come here. Not to mention the benefits of having American manufacturing jobs flooding back to the USA because they can actually afford the labor costs and still be able to compete on the global market.
Example: Stihl chainsaws are extremely expensive. I just bought one yesterday. It was $500. The chainsaws that are made here, are sold here. The ones they make in Germany, are sold to Europe. The ones they make in China and the Philippines, are sold to their market. The Asians can't afford to buy American made Stihls because the labor costs are so high. If our wages and cost of living were reduced to something close to Mexico, Stihl could have several manufacturing plants here in the USA and export to all those other counties. But things being the way they are, they only have one plant in the USA now a days. They've been force to outsource those jobs.
Now, as far as giving blacks money, that's how politics is played. Conservatives have long been accused of doing nothing for the black community. In return, Trump increased his black voter turnout by 50% and even drew in more Hispanic votes than his first run. Sorry, but if you don't do something for minorities, you are going to lose your next election. If you don't give Democrats something they want, you're not going to get anything you want, and that's why our spending is out of control.
It's buying votes with your tax dollars. It's also racist, because there's a LOT of white and Hispanic neighborhoods that could use some federal money. But when you get right down to it, it's socialism. The same socialism that pays for their section 8 housing. Food stamps for lazy welfare sponges. Free college. Free phones.
Trump proves he's still a left wing socialist. And he's pulling you people to the left with him.
FFS, he's got you making excuses for spending $500 BILLION on black communities, just because they're black. They get enough welfare. And as we can see, throwing money at a problem never works. Not to mention the fact that it's historically been the left who thinks throwing money at a problem is a solution.
BTW< this Platinum Plan, did it work? Did they clean up the black communities? Did they rid those communities of crime and drugs? No. As all socialist programs go, it was a huge waste of tax payers money. And you're making excuses for Trump for doing it..