Trump, the socialist we don't want back into office.

Trump absolutely would torch the GOP and cater to his own ego if denied the GOP nomination.
First, he'll insist the republican nomination process was fraudulent. How do we know? He did exactly that in 2016.

"Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he illegally stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong any [sic] why he got more votes than anticipated. Bad!”

Of course, he'd do the exact same thing in 2024 as he lost nominations. The GOP has no reason to be if it can't deliver Trump power.

Second, Trump would withhold support or otherwise sabotage winning GOP candidates if his ego isn't catered to. As he did in the 2020/2021 Georgia Senate runoff after losing the presidential election.

'A Hostage Situation Every Day': Strategists Blame Trump For Georgia Senate Losses


Apparently the Democrat party disagrees with you totally. I'm sure their research extends far beyond what we find on the internet alone, and they are doing everything possible to make sure he can't run in 24. There is a reason for that. It would be like the Republicans making sure Dementia can't run in 24. We hope he does run. It will guarantee us a win.
 
No, you have zero right to complain because you chose to do nothing about it.
Bullshit. I have every right to complain. You dumb motherfuckers are electing shitty candidates, and you're doing it on purpose. For fuck's sake stop it. You say I'm doing nothing. Yet you're throwing gasoline on the fire. Can't you see that? Stop. Just stop.
 
Apparently the Democrat party disagrees with you totally. I'm sure their research extends far beyond what we find on the internet alone, and they are doing everything possible to make sure he can't run in 24. There is a reason for that. It would be like the Republicans making sure Dementia can't run in 24. We hope he does run. It will guarantee us a win.

Oh, its *much* better for the Democrats if Trump loses the nomination. Trump would have to rage and direct his supporters at other republicans.

And better yet, if Trump's supporters are pulled from GOP support, there are profound downticket implications. Trump losing the nomination is the DNC best case scenario.

They know Trump's ego would require him to burn the GOP to the ground.
 
Bullshit. I have every right to complain. You dumb motherfuckers are electing shitty candidates, and you're doing it on purpose. For fuck's sake stop it. You say I'm doing nothing. Yet you're throwing gasoline on the fire. Can't you see that? Stop. Just stop.

Total bullshit because Trump was one of our best Presidents since Reagan. Our country would be in ten times better shape had he been reelected than we are stuck with today and the next two years. You made sure of that which is why you have no right to complain about anything. I do have the right to complain about it because I did everything I could to try and make sure Biden didn't become President; even voting in person as bad as covid was.

Yeah, just stop it. Do you think the Communist party voters will just stop it? They'd sell their souls to the devil for power. If we "stop it" then it will be the end of the great experiment and the country will never come back.
 
K....Let's take that at face value.

Doesn't that make you the least bit curious as to why all the bi-costal elitist insiders. in both politics and media, hate him?
Because he went against Obama, betrayed Clinton and left the Democratic Plantation…

Trump isn’t Conservative when it is fiscal or social and will just say what you want to hear.
 
Total bullshit because Trump was one of our best Presidents since Reagan.
If you really believe that, then you're not voting lesser-of-two-evils. I'd say you're thoroughly detached from reality, but you're voting for a candidate you know to be bad. You're voting honestly, even if I think you're wrong.

But lots of people are not voting honestly. Maybe most. Many people are "holding their nose" and voting for a shitty candidate because their party successfully scared them into doing so. And they're destroying us. They're suckers, and they're sucking the entire nation into a whole with their gullibility.
You made sure of that which is why you have no right to complain about anything.
No, I didn't. Only those who voted for Biden were responsible for his election. That's the sick conceit of lo2e - you fucks blame the election of a bad candidate on those who didn't even vote for him. That's insane. But "insane" seems to be the our political zeitgeist. What a fucking mess.
 
If you really believe that, then you're not voting lesser-of-two-evils. I'd say you're thoroughly detached from reality, but you're voting for a candidate you know to be bad. You're voting honestly, even if I think you're wrong.

But lots of people are not voting honestly. Maybe most. Many people are "holding their nose" and voting for a shitty candidate because their party successfully scared them into doing so. And they're destroying us. They're suckers, and they're sucking the entire nation into a whole with their gullibility.

No, I didn't. Only those who voted for Biden were responsible for his election. That's the sick conceit of lo2e - you fucks blame the election of a bad candidate on those who didn't even vote for him. That's insane. But "insane" seems to be the our political zeitgeist. What a fucking mess.

How else do you stop a bad candidate from winning unless you vote against him? There is no other way. And if you made zero attempts to stop that bad candidate from getting into office, you are just as complicit in that result as the people that voted for the bad candidate. You both participated in his or her success.
 
How else do you stop a bad candidate from winning unless you vote against him?
You can't vote against a candidate in our system. It's impossible. I support several initiatives to change the system, so that such a thing IS possible, but currently it is not.
 
It doesn't matter if anyone here thinks Trump was a god or a dud. What matters is this perception by the electorate. And Trump is a hugely toxic candidate. The folks that won't vote for Trump, under any circumstance, are close to half.

That's a profoundly tough election path. Especially after January 6th. Especially after the 2022 midterms. As Trump is establishing a pattern of losing. His entire brand is about winning.

Worse for the GOP, Trump's ego won't allow him to just lose the GOP nomination. Trump will claim fraud, claim rigging by the GOP, claim that republican officials can't be trusted, that the system is broken, that Trump should be installed.

The GOP has two main choices:

1) Nominate Trump, a hugely toxic candidate who would be their worst case option against Biden and impact them downticket.

2) Not nominate Trump, and have Donald pull his most ardent supporters away from the GOP...either not voting at all, or writing in Trump. It would result in a GOP civil war with the party tearing itself apart. Even if only 2 or 3% of GOP voters go with Trump.....its a red wave. And Trump's support among the GOP faithful is closer to 30%.

The GOP is in a very rough spot.
 
There's absolutely nothing "logical" about voting for a bad candidate on purpose. It's idiotic.
PLUS, it makes you feel warm and cozy to not bare any responsibility for anything. You can sit back, relax and tell everyone, "well, don't blame me, I didn't for "fill in the space".
 
PLUS, it makes you feel warm and cozy to not bare any responsibility for anything. You can sit back, relax and tell everyone, "well, don't blame me, I didn't for "fill in the space".
Exactly. You morons are to blame.
 
It doesn't matter if anyone here thinks Trump was a god or a dud. What matters is this perception by the electorate. And Trump is a hugely toxic candidate. The folks that won't vote for Trump, under any circumstance, are close to half.

That's a profoundly tough election path. Especially after January 6th. Especially after the 2022 midterms. As Trump is establishing a pattern of losing. His entire brand is about winning.

Worse for the GOP, Trump's ego won't allow him to just lose the GOP nomination. Trump will claim fraud, claim rigging by the GOP, claim that republican officials can't be trusted, that the system is broken, that Trump should be installed.

The GOP has two main choices:

1) Nominate Trump, a hugely toxic candidate who would be their worst case option against Biden and impact them downticket.

2) Not nominate Trump, and have Donald pull his most ardent supporters away from the GOP...either not voting at all, or writing in Trump. It would result in a GOP civil war with the party tearing itself apart. Even if only 2 or 3% of GOP voters go with Trump.....its a red wave. And Trump's support among the GOP faithful is closer to 30%.

The GOP is in a very rough spot.

Or possibility 3: Tulsi start her own party or join up with a third stripping Democrat voters away from their party,
 
You can't vote against a candidate in our system. It's impossible. I support several initiatives to change the system, so that such a thing IS possible, but currently it is not.

Of course it is and we've been doing it for centuries. If you want to stop a bad candidate from winning, you do that by voting for their rival.
 
Of course it is and we've been doing it for centuries.
No. You've been kidding yourself. You've been voting FOR candidates. You can't vote against candidates in our system.
If you want to stop a bad candidate from winning, you do that by voting for their rival.
Rival? According to whom? Mainstream media? You're letting them dictate your vote?

LO2E perpetuates shitty government and things will only get worse until we reject it.
 
Or possibility 3: Tulsi start her own party or join up with a third stripping Democrat voters away from their party,

Tulsi wouldn't draw that many Dems. Look at her presidential run. It was pathetic. She barely cleared the 2% mark.

Trump could pull as many as 30% of GOP voters. And he doesn't need to form his own party to devastate the GOP. He could just tell his supporters not to vote for anyone.

If he loses the primary, all his hated, bruised ego, and rage will be directed at the GOP. With Trump insisting that its the GOP that's corrupt, that its the GOP that robbed him, that it was all illegal.

The GOP is fuuuuuucked.
 
Tulsi wouldn't draw that many Dems. Look at her presidential run. It was pathetic. She barely cleared the 2% mark.

Trump could pull as many as 30% of GOP voters. And he doesn't need to form his own party to devastate the GOP. He could just tell his supporters not to vote for anyone.

If he loses the primary, all his hated, bruised ego, and rage will be directed at the GOP. With Trump insisting that its the GOP that's corrupt, that its the GOP that robbed him, that it was all illegal.

The GOP is fuuuuuucked.

You can believe that little fantasy all you like, but unlike Biden, Trump is an America first candidate and ex-president. He wouldn't do anything to hurt the country like tell people not to vote. We have primary elections. If Trump loses that, then he will also realize it's because the Communist party made sure he couldn't win, and will direct his anger at them if anybody. He will ask his supporters to vote for whoever the Republican candidate is.
 
K....Let's take that at face value.

Doesn't that make you the least bit curious as to why all the bi-costal elitist insiders. in both politics and media, hate him?



No, because he's a statist like they are.
 
Exactly. You morons are to blame.
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No. You've been kidding yourself. You've been voting FOR candidates. You can't vote against candidates in our system.

Rival? According to whom? Mainstream media? You're letting them dictate your vote?

LO2E perpetuates shitty government and things will only get worse until we reject it.

Yeah, and we can only stop OD"s if people quit using drugs. Good luck trying to make people think like you.

Meanwhile those of us that live in reality play the only cards we have in our hand. Because the only way to change your party is in the primary elections. If you can't change it there, you sure as hell have zero chance at trying to change anything in the general election. The primaries is how the party knows which direction their constituents want to go in.
 

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