Trump Reportedly Is Set To Accept A Jet From Qatar’s Ruling Family For Possible Use As Air Force One

[Orangecat]

We know that Trump is so craven that he would accept that plane in the first place knowing that it will cost the taxpayers hundreds of millions of $$$ or more just to retrofit it up to the standards of AF1.

Just so he can park, in the eyes of you MAGA worshippers his "big beautiful ass" on gold plated terlets.

Do you even realize how petty and stupid you sound with this daily garbage?

 

[Clipper]

Do you even realize how petty and stupid you sound with this daily garbage?

Petty? For not agreeing that Trump should accept a $400 million jet as a so called "gift" from a bunch of terrorists?

 

[Vrenn]

Do you even realize how petty and stupid you sound with this daily garbage?

Do you realize that Quatar has 5 more they can't even give away? One would think that DOGE would have pointed out that there are less expensive methods to transport the Orange Cheeto's Ass around. Like using a converted 797 or A350 like the rest of the world's leaders do because the 747 is just too damned expensive to operate.

He may be petty but, damned, they don't come any stupider than you do. And we can't fix stupid.

 

[krichton]

This does not answer my question.
Try again?

I already did. He'll find a way, just watch.

 

[Orangecat]

Petty? For not agreeing that Trump should accept a $400 million jet as a so called "gift" from a bunch of terrorists?

Petty, because you’re so obsessed with finding fault in everything Trump says or does. Take a walk. Build a fire. Chill.

 

[Orangecat]

And we can't fix stupid.

That explains why you’re still broken. Enjoy the next 3 1/2 years!

 

[Vrenn]

That explains why you’re still broken. Enjoy the next 3 1/2 years!

The Orang Cheeto won't make it past another 6 months.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The next Democratic administration will require Trump to give up his jet.

 

[Orangecat]

The Orang Cheeto won't make it past another 6 months.

 

[Delldude]

Most Countries are going to things like the Boeing 787 or the Airbus A350. The average cost of either of these two are about 300 million apiece.

Well Boeing is contracted, so that's the end of that.

Due to the possible background, listening and delayed bombs, the Aircraft is going to have to be completely gutted. They are going to have to completely disassemble it. COST: around 2 billion

Completely disassemble? They'd do the same as in any A/C overhaul.

Quatar has been trying to give their 6 747s away for years.

True, but it's reported that one AF-1 has serious structure issues and there is no backup. My understanding is they won't retrofit the 'gift' as much as the Boeing models coming. It will be an interim until the others are delivered. AF has been looking into an interim AC since the delays from Boeing and current structural issues...........under Biden, for the record.

Also, one of the problems with the new '47's, is structural issues also. Brand new plane???

It appears he has a "Plan" to have it gifted to him when he leaves office.

The 'plan' is it is retired from USAF, becomes property of the Archives, then displayed and owned by USA, at Trump's library.

Why would he want to fly in his own plane when he has AF1?

After he leaves office He can't.

Be honest, if it were Biden accepting something like this you'd be all over him 24/7.

Really?I don't give a shit one way or the other. We need a backup now.

When would a former president ever be asked to use his own money to maintain a government jet? I think by now no one should underestimate what Trump will attempt to get away with if he has an opportunity.

Well it isn't or ever will be His, so whats the issue?

For not agreeing that Trump should accept a $400 million jet as a so called "gift" from a bunch of terrorists?

Sorry, USAF owns it now.

The next Democratic administration will require Trump to give up his jet.

He will never 'have' it and you know it.

 

[Vrenn]

Well Boeing is contracted, so that's the end of that.

No one is contracted. Boeing originally put in a bid of 3.2 billion until your Orange Cheeto demanded they lower it so Boeing raised it to 3.9 billion. But it's just an estimate and no contract has been signed.
Stop lying.

Completely disassemble? They'd do the same as in any A/C overhaul.

And how many years to you have working at the various Air Force Depot facilities? I can guess zero. They don't do the same for every ac in the depot. It's not called "Overhaul". And they fix what's wrong with it, comply with the TCTOs and perform the various mods. Stop lying.

True, but it's reported that one AF-1 has serious structure issues and there is no backup. My understanding is they won't retrofit the 'gift' as much as the Boeing models coming. It will be an interim until the others are delivered. AF has been looking into an interim AC since the delays from Boeing and current structural issues...........under Biden, for the record.

Are you aware that AF1 is not one single Aircraft? It's any AF bird transporting the President. Like Marine One is a chopper that hauls the Prez for short distances. The Navy might even get in on the Navy One deal with their birds including choppers. The AF has two 747-4 in service right now and the option to accept delivery of the Boeing 747-8. But until the contract is signed and agreed upon, Boeing isn't working on an AF1 replacement.
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Now, let's look at the Boeing Proposed AF1 time frame. Once it becomes a signed deal, it will take around 2 to 3 years to get that brand new 747-8 into the AF's hands. Meanwhile, the retrofit for the Quatar bird will take at least 3 years.

The original quoted cost for the 747-8 (2 of them X2) was 3.2 Million. Well, until the Orange Cheeto decided to try and bully Boeing to lower the cost. Yes, Boeing did change it. It's now 3.9 billion each. The Quatar 747 is nothing more than an very expensive Orange Cheeto temper tantrum misusing his CiC powers.
Stop lying.

Also, one of the problems with the new '47's, is structural issues also. Brand new plane???

Considering that Boeing has yet to start on the new AF1s, you should know that before it leaves the Boeing Factory, it's going to extremely checked for every deficiency. Stop lying.

The 'plan' is it is retired from USAF, becomes property of the Archives, then displayed and owned by USA, at Trump's library.

Every day that this is in the inventory of the AF, it's going to cost thousands of dollars a day to just sit there. The place it needs to be parked is Davis Monthan being stripped for parts and eventually cut in half and sold as surplus.

After he leaves office He can't.

Really?I don't give a shit one way or the other. We need a backup now.

Every Commerical bird in the Air Force inventory is a backup. There even is a VC-137C in the inventory temporarily parked at the Reagan Museum. Wow, now it makes sense. The Orange Cheeto is trying to cheat the system to get one parked at his Library Museum just like Reagan. The difference is, the VC-137C was taken off front line service and replaced during Reagans time. And it's still 100% Serviceable and is on standby to fill in as AF1 if the 2 747s cannot do it. Plus, the AF keeps an additional VC-137C in full operational condition on standby as well.
Stop lying

Well it isn't or ever will be His, so whats the issue?

It's hard to figure what's swimming in his mind these days. Like a 3rd term which he really is going to go for, He may be cooking up a way to keep it even if it's just parked. But the Quatar hasn't paid the dues to be parked (and fully operational) in ANY Presidents Library Museum. It never has been and never will be a fully functional VC-25A. Spending one single dime to refurbish it would be senseless and just catering to a Sick old Man's temper tantrum who has vision of Grandeur.

Sorry, USAF owns it now.

He will never 'have' it and you know it.

And it will be never raised to the status of the VC-25 therefore, it can't be parked at tRump Presidential Library and Museum.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The Navy might even get in on the Navy One deal with their birds including choppers.

When Bush II flew to a Navy Aircraft Carrier at sea in an S-3A, the call sign of the flight was "Navy One" since the President was embarked.

WW

 

[Vrenn]

When Bush II flew to a Navy Aircraft Carrier at sea in an S-3A, the call sign of the flight was "Navy One" since the President was embarked.

WW

The last thing any of us wishes to hear of see is a E-4B with that call sign of AF1. Life would be over as we know it.

 

[Meathead]

When Bush II flew to a Navy Aircraft Carrier at sea in an S-3A, the call sign of the flight was "Navy One" since the President was embarked.

WW

Who "embarked" him?

 

[Vrenn]

Who "embarked" him?

I guess he forgot to get your permission and embarked himself onto the carrier.

 

[Meathead]

I guess he forgot to get your permission and embarked himself onto the carrier.

Weird use of the passive.

 

[Delldude]

No one is contracted. Boeing originally put in a bid of 3.2 billion until your Orange Cheeto demanded they lower it so Boeing raised it to 3.9 billion. But it's just an estimate and no contract has been signed.
Stop lying.

CNN - Long-delayed next Air Force One jets from Boeing might now be delivered by 2027 — in time for President Donald Trump to use them, according to a top Air Force official.

While that’s still years behind the original delivery date of 2022, it’s one to two years earlier than Boeing had most recently predicted.
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Boeing’s $3.9 billion contract to replace the two Air Force One jets has become an expensive and embarrassing albatross. Boeing has reported losses totaling $2.5 billion already on the program, known as VC-25B, since it agreed to be responsible for what has become soaring cost overruns.

There are multiple reasons for the delay in delivery. After signing the original contract in 2017, Boeing began refurbishing two 747 jets in February 2020 that it had built for another customer but never delivered because of that customer’s bankruptcy — a process that in hindsight probably was more expensive and time consuming than if it had built from scratch.

And how many years to you have working at the various Air Force Depot facilities? I can guess zero. They don't do the same for every ac in the depot. It's not called "Overhaul". And they fix what's wrong with it, comply with the TCTOs and perform the various mods. Stop lying.

20 years commercial heavy maintenance under FAA guidelines...where it's called overhaul.

Considering that Boeing has yet to start on the new AF1s, you should know that before it leaves the Boeing Factory, it's going to extremely checked for every deficiency. Stop lying.

CNN - There are multiple reasons for the delay in delivery. After signing the original contract in 2017, Boeing began refurbishing two 747 jets in February 2020 that it had built for another customer but never delivered because of that customer’s bankruptcy — a process that in hindsight probably was more expensive and time consuming than if it had built from scratch.

Now, let's look at the Boeing Proposed AF1 time frame. Once it becomes a signed deal, it will take around 2 to 3 years to get that brand new 747-8 into the AF's hands.

Deal signed in 2017.....refurbishing of two existing started in 2020.

Meanwhile, the retrofit for the Quatar bird will take at least 3 years.

Looking into a lighter version of the two at Boeing, with minimal 'goodies' to act as an interim.

And it will be never raised to the status of the VC-25 therefore, it can't be parked at Trump Presidential Library and Museum.

Looking like you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Delldude]

When Bush II flew to a Navy Aircraft Carrier at sea in an S-3A, the call sign of the flight was "Navy One" since the President was embarked.

WW

If he was flying in a Cessna 152 it would be AF-1.

 

[WorldWatcher]

If he was flying in a Cessna 152 it would be AF-1.

Only if owned by the Air Force.



WW

 

[Delldude]

Boeing originally put in a bid of 3.2 billion until your Orange Cheeto demanded they lower it so Boeing raised it to 3.9 billion.

AI - In 2018, the Air Force issued a contract to Boeing to convert two 747s to eventually serve as new Air Force One aircraft, for $3.9 billion. In 2019, the Pentagon estimated that the total estimated cost of building, equipping and testing the planes would be higher, at about $5.3 billion.