Trump Pros and Cons

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No, not a hundred percent because I wasn't there and neither were you.

i heard it live.

 

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Jesus is a reoccuring character that doesn't even appear until the 2nd half of the story.

the OP is all about JC ... in the NT. so what's yer point?

You Think!

already did.

 

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THat would include Bill Clinton and Hunter Biden

that's nice. i didn't vote for slick willy. so my conscience is crystal clear with that one.

hunter? lol ... have heard that one. anyhoo ...

you gots anything else?

 

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Again, my opinion. Trump wouldn't hide something unless he had something to hide. If the files were "a hoax" (as he pretends to believe) then let's be 100% transparent and release 100% of the files 100% unredacted. They say the names are redacted for purposes of "national security" but if the entire thing is a "hoax" then how would they remotely affect national security?

Something is very fishy and Trump doesn't want us to know what it is.

with high powered people involved that epstein was either in cahoots with, or extorted - he got a lot of cash doing. my opinion is that donny is in deep & not from being a client - but being a partner of epstein's.

 

[ChristisKing]

This is the position you are in. You can hear Trump saying he does things. You can see testimony of victims who say. Yes he did exactly what he said he did. And your response is... "well but do we really know he did it?"

Isn't that the normal response?

"Not a hundred percent?" That's an interesting way to put it.

So what percentage of certainty do you need? 99.999999 percent certain is still enough doubt to say "well I'll still support him?

But hey let's be less extreme, 3 percent doubt? Would you support someone of whom your only certain 97 percent that he walks into dressing rooms with naked teenagers?

How much moral ambiguity do you allow yourself?

I don't think ChristisKing is denying it happened. I think he's hiding behind uncertainty. He's convinced himself it's alright to support Trump as long as he can hide behind "I don't know" in his head.

I say "hide" because at the same time he or she is laying the bar to be convinced at a level that wouldn't be required in a courtroom. Here the bar isn't reasonable doubt but any doubt.

All I'm saying is that I'm washing my hands in this until I have more information to go by. Like the release of the Epstein files that Trump seems to be holding back on.

I hope they're lying and just playing games to troll. If they really believe what they say, that's much worse in my book.

Lying or trolling about what?

I don't doubt it but hearsay isn't proof.

Bingo! Exactly my point.

it doesn't prove a thing - other than the fact that he & epstein & that whore & melania were very much part of each other's lives. btw - why have hillary testify - & has proven SHE can't even be shown to have ever been in the same room as them, let alone a pic. unlike donny, & epstein & the whore & melania. many times. why would she be transferred, other than she keep her mouth shut. how would you feel if she were pardoned? that might be next. a pardon for a sex trafficking *****.



because you are connecting some dots... keep going.

I just don't know. Not enough information for me yet.

c'mon over - we have cookies!

Lol what kind?

it 100% happened. i was a big stern fan b4 he left terrestrial radio & i heard that show live when donny bragged about it.

Well that I can believe happened but Trump actually sexually abusing the women I can't call judgement on right now.

 

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JustAnotherNut, even the people on here who are madly in love with Trump don't love Trump as much as Trump loves Trump.

 

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Also, what about the point on the pro-Trump side that he's putting America first by destroying one of our main enemy countries. Although destroying innocent civilians won't help much.

Btw, I still find this new war to be completely unnecessary though.