Trump Pros and Cons

[buttercup]

Yes. Trump's association with Cohn are corroborated and documented in the book "The Making Of Donald Trump" by David Cay Johnson. I'm still reading the book but Trump is tied to a number of nefarious individual and Mafia types. His past is shadier than even the never-Trumpers know about.

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How is that book so far? It looks interesting. In regard to ties to nefarious individuals, I don't doubt that at all, since his mentor Roy Cohn had all sorts of shady connections including high profile mobsters....he was considered a "mob lawyer."

I also really want to read One Nation Under Blackmail by Whitney Webb. I've mentioned that before but I still haven't purchased it.

 

[ChristisKing]

Oh and one other thing that leads me to believe that Trump could possibly be innocent is didn't Bill and Hillary Clinton say that he had nothing to do with the Epstein files?

 

[buttercup]

Oh and one other thing that leads me to believe that Trump could possibly be innocent is didn't Bill and Hillary Clinton say that he had nothing to do with the Epstein files?

Why would you believe a proven liar and perjurer? The Clintons are as corrupt as it gets. Furthermore, they were FRIENDS for many years and almost certainly still are....despite the political Kabuki theater where they pretend to be against each other.

Also, as I said in an earlier post, they all cover for each other.... because they all have dirt on each other. This isn't hard to figure out.

 

[ChristisKing]

Why would you believe a proven liar and perjurer? The Clintons are as corrupt as it gets. Furthermore, they were FRIENDS for many years and almost certainly still are....despite the political Kabuki theater where they pretend to be against each other.

Also, as I said in an earlier post, they all cover for each other.... because they all have dirt on each other. This isn't hard to figure out.

You make a good point too but I'm pretty sure that they HATE Trump now. Again, I'm just trying to see both sides of the argument but I definitely see yours.

 

[buttercup]

You make a good point too but I'm pretty sure that they HATE Trump now. Again, I'm just trying to see both sides of the argument but I definitely see yours.

I may be in the minority with this view, but I really don't believe they hate each other at all.

IF Trump was even the slightest bit sincere with the whole "Lock her up!" mantra, he would have taken action. The exact opposite happened. In fact, he openly admitted to not caring about locking her up! I've shared this before, but I'll share it once again.

For anyone who hasn't seen it, please watch the whole thing, but the last 8 seconds really sum it up.

 

[dblack]

Oh and one other thing that leads me to believe that Trump could possibly be innocent is didn't Bill and Hillary Clinton say that he had nothing to do with the Epstein files?

Now there's a character reference!

 

[SaxonJackson]

Oh and one other thing that leads me to believe that Trump could possibly be innocent is didn't Bill and Hillary Clinton say that he had nothing to do with the Epstein files?

Trump & the Clintons are the best of buds. Both participate in lots of underhanded activities. Here's what Trump REALLY thinks of the Clintons:



Watch all the rich, Epstein Class, pedos stand up and clap for each other. One, HUGE happy family. One Party ... the Swamp Party.

And watch Trump give Hilary the Communist Clenched Fist solute at the end.

 

[22lcidw]

So you like all of the ways in which Trump violates the teachings of Jesus - turning his back on the children, the afflicted, and those fleeing oppression. You like the concentration camps, and the deportations, and the abuse of anyone who isn't white???

40; And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41; Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42; For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43; I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44; Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45; Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

I am sick to death of you MAGA Hypocrites talking about your abiding faith in Jesus when you proudly eschew and spit on EVERYTHING He stood for and everything he preached.

The first few centuries they died from people like you. From the powerful who lived in debauchery in every way not accepting the Christian's God and judged others who preached that peace and love as a threat. There is no perfection in anyone. There are hypocrites to be sure. We also watered down Christianity for the modern era.

 

[Robert W]

This is the first thread that I was telling you about earlier buttercup. I still really like how President Trump has kept our borders shut and cracked down on the woke crowd and redelivered free speech to our country,...but I'm still not sure how I feel about the war in Iran and his mouth and ego are definitely negatives for me... My biggest question of all though is what does he have against the Epstein files?

The misnamed Epstein files really are the police files and the DA files. Trump ordered all of them released.

 

[ChristisKing]

I may be in the minority with this view, but I really don't believe they hate each other at all.

IF Trump was even the slightest bit sincere with the whole "Lock her up!" mantra, he would have taken action. The exact opposite happened. In fact, he openly admitted to not caring about locking her up! I've shared this before, but I'll share it once again.

For anyone who hasn't seen it, please watch the whole thing, but the last 8 seconds really sum it up.

Yeah you're right Trump's a lying POS in that aspect.

Now there's a character reference!

I already said that I'm taking the time to hear arguments from both sides.

Trump & the Clintons are the best of buds. Both participate in lots of underhanded activities. Here's what Trump REALLY thinks of the Clintons:



Watch all the rich, Epstein Class, pedos stand up and clap for each other. One, HUGE happy family. One Party ... the Swamp Party.

And watch Trump give Hilary the Communist Clenched Fist solute at the end.

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Yeah oops sorry my mistake. He really played that lock her up crap though. I still owe Leo123 and whoever else an apology though for my verbal attacks on Israel. They might have never fought a war alongside us but they helped our country in other ways, Trump was definitely right to stop Iran from taking nukes though.

The misnamed Epstein files really are the police files and the DA files. Trump ordered all of them released.

Yeah, after a hell of a fight, but they still haven't all been released to my knowledge even though Trump ordered it.

 

[Robert W]

he is against the epstein files because he is IN the epstein files. donny appears more times that jesus' name in the bible.

anyways, you can ask yourself why epstein's convicted whore pimp/GF named ghislaine maxwell, convicted & sentenced to 20 years in a federal prison talks to donny's (now) AG, todd blanche in that prison, & poof was magically transferred to a country club place where she now has great food & a puppy.

hmmmm.... think, girl.

The bureau of prisons transferred her. Still, she is behind bars.

 

[dblack]

The bureau of prisons transferred her. Still, she is behind bars.

Hey - it's not that far away. Do you think Trump will pardon her as he leaves office?

 

[Robert W]

IF Trump was even the slightest bit sincere with the whole "Lock her up!" mantra, he would have taken action. The exact opposite happened. In fact, he openly admitted to not caring about locking her up! I've shared this before, but I'll share it once again.

You proved that Trump was not serious about Hillary. It is called a campaign technique.

 

[Robert W]

Hey - it's not that far away. Do you think Trump will pardon her as he leaves office?

I won't guess. Did you think Biden would pardon his kid?

 

[dblack]

I won't guess. Did you think Biden would pardon his kid?

Yep. And he did. So what?

Anyway - you dodged question. Do you think Trump will pardon Maxwell before he leaves office?

 

[ChristisKing]

Hey - it's not that far away. Do you think Trump will pardon her as he leaves office?

Probably.

You proved that Trump was not serious about Hillary. It is called a campaign technique.

So then you can admit that he lied?

 

[playtime]

I just don't know. Not enough information for me yet.

it's not going away, so there will be plenty of chances for that lightbilb moment.

Lol what kind?

chocolate chip of course.

fresh & warm from the oven. yummmmmm....

Well that I can believe happened but Trump actually sexually abusing the women I can't call judgement on right now.

 

[Clipper]

Oh come on give me a break! You don't have any proof for the fact that he's guilty any more than I do that he's innocent.

Ask yourself why Trump doesn't want ALL the files released to clear his name IF he's done nothing wrong.

And spare me the BS that he wants to protect others from harm, because Trump has never given a rats ass about anyone but himself. And he doesn't now in regards to those files.

 

[playtime]

Btw, I still find this new war to be completely unnecessary though.

don't forget that back in june, he bragged about iran's nuclear capabilities were ' obliterated' . if that was true, then why the fk are we doing it now?

 

[Robert W]

Probably.



So then you can admit that he lied?

Probably.