Trump Pros and Cons

SaxonJackson said:
Agreed. His name could be mentioned a billion times but unless and until it's mentioned in connection with underaged girls or sex trafficking then it means nothing.

Circumstantially, the fact that Trump was close buddies with Epstein for years and the fact that Trump owned a beauty pageant with lots of teenaged girls raises some red flags. Couple that with the fact that his name appears thousands of times in the Files and I can't help but believe there's something there he doesn't want us to see.
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There's an awful lot of smoke for there to be no fire.
 
SaxonJackson said:
Agreed. His name could be mentioned a billion times but unless and until it's mentioned in connection with underaged girls or sex trafficking then it means nothing.

Circumstantially, the fact that Trump was close buddies with Epstein for years and the fact that Trump owned a beauty pageant with lots of teenaged girls raises some red flags. Couple that with the fact that his name appears thousands of times in the Files and I can't help but believe there's something there he doesn't want us to see.
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You got a point actually. That's kind of creepy about the teenage girls thing if that really happened.
 
SaxonJackson said:
Agreed. His name could be mentioned a billion times but unless and until it's mentioned in connection with underaged girls or sex trafficking then it means nothing.

Circumstantially, the fact that Trump was close buddies with Epstein for years and the fact that Trump owned a beauty pageant with lots of teenaged girls raises some red flags. Couple that with the fact that his name appears thousands of times in the Files and I can't help but believe there's something there he doesn't want us to see.
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True enough and it's very possible he's as guilty as they come........but until there is anything more concrete and definite, I'll wait before jumping on the blame train. Circumstantial evidence a conviction does not make.
 
ChristisKing said:
You got a point actually. That's kind of creepy about the teenage girls thing if that really happened.
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Well, we know it happened with Epstein. But there's no definitive evidence Trump was involved.

The more important issue with the Epstein files is where all the dirt went. Who has it now? Lots of us suspect Epstein was running a blackmail honeypot, but it doesn't look like that's even been investigated.

I'm confident the CIA knows what he was up to, and their silence is deafening. They could easily clear things up (either "We investigated and found Epstein wasn't blackmailing anyone" or "Yep, Epstein was blackmailing people and selling dirt to third parties"). But they haven't yet said anything.

I think the Epstein thing ensnares so many people in DC that no one wants to go there. It would be a tangled shitshow of accusations and recrimination. I also think all the real evidence was "disappeared" when he was arrested. And he was killed to seal the deal.

But that's just a guess. We don't really know, and it's clear that the DC people don't want us to know.
 
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Hey SaxonJackson, what about the argument that this isn't a new war, and it is an ongoing war with Iran? I saw your point about just randomly bombing other countries like China, Russia, and North Korea, but somebody else I know made that point too and I both see and respect both points.
 
SaxonJackson said:
Again, my opinion. Trump wouldn't hide something unless he had something to hide. If the files were "a hoax" (as he pretends to believe) then let's be 100% transparent and release 100% of the files 100% unredacted. They say the names are redacted for purposes of "national security" but if the entire thing is a "hoax" then how would they remotely affect national security?

Something is very fishy and Trump doesn't want us to know what it is.
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that sounds EXACTLY like the jfk coverup when our wonderful for the people government was saying the jfk files cannot be released for NATIONAL SECURITY.

decades later,NOTHING has changed in our wonderful communist government we have.
 
LA RAM FAN said:
that sounds EXACTLY like the jfk coverup when our wonderful for the people government was saying the jfk files cannot be released for NATIONAL SECURITY.

decades later,NOTHING has changed in our wonderful communist government we have.
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The reason the information can't be released is that it would expose the very people that most of our politicians (including Trump) work for. We conspiracy theorists call it "the shadow government" or ZOG.
 
forkup said:
I always enjoy it when people take the time to respond to what I write by claiming they aren't reading it. Good luck with that.
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I read to your first lie and addressed that.

Everyone saw how you didn't deal with the fact that I pointed out clearly how you lied.
 
ChristisKing said:
Yeah that's one of the things that I like most about Trump but again, when did this country turn into Israel first? I'm just saying....
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ChristisKing said:
Yeah that's one of the things that I like most about Trump but again, when did this country turn into Israel first? I'm just saying....
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:thankusmile: Not only that but he showed his true colors that he is a conman because if he really WAS patriotic and for the people as he claims,and here to serve AMERICA there is NO REASON ON THE PLANET WHY he has not opened up a REAL independent investigation into the JFK assassination something he WOULD have done by now in his second term. that coverup has been going on for decades and the TRUTH on that and the coverup the media is STILL participating in all these DECADES later is LONG overdue.:mad:

till he opens up a new investigation into that he is just a conman not to mention he said he would drain the swamp and prosecute hitlery, yet he has done NOTHING to get rid of these evil organizations the FBI,CIA,IRS NIST and on and on. most clever conman sense Reagan,

had patriot ron paul got elected,that stuff would have been taken care of a LONG time ago yet people STILL act like trump is their saviour of America.:uhoh3:
 
Also, what about the point on the pro-Trump side that he's putting America first by destroying one of our main enemy countries. Although destroying innocent civilians won't help much.
 
SaxonJackson said:
Agreed. His name could be mentioned a billion times but unless and until it's mentioned in connection with underaged girls or sex trafficking then it means nothing.

Circumstantially, the fact that Trump was close buddies with Epstein for years and the fact that Trump owned a beauty pageant with lots of teenaged girls raises some red flags. Couple that with the fact that his name appears thousands of times in the Files and I can't help but believe there's something there he doesn't want us to see.

Remember ... he admitted to walking into the girl's dressing room while there were in various stages of dress. He's a creep, if nothing else.
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Correction he is mentioned a having to have had sex with underaged girls. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ju...iews-epstein-files-with-woman-who-2026-03-06/

claimed Trump attempted to force her to perform oral sex after Epstein introduced her to the future president in New York or New Jersey in the 1980s when she was between 13 and 15 years old.

It still means nothing. That's the point I was making. It doesn't matter what it is. It will be explained away by his supporters and administration
 
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Also with the incident about the blasphemy thing. I can't fully blame Trump for it either.


 
dblack said:
Well, we know it happened with Epstein. But there's no definitive evidence Trump was involved.

The more important issue with the Epstein files is where all the dirt went. Who has it now? Lots of us suspect Epstein was running a blackmail honeypot, but it doesn't look like that's even been investigated.

I'm confident the CIA knows what he was up to, and their silence is deafening. They could easily clear things up (either "We investigated and found Epstein wasn't blackmailing anyone" or "Yep, Epstein was blackmailing people and selling dirt to third parties"). But they haven't yet said anything.

I think the Epstein thing ensnares so many people in DC that no one wants to go there. It would be a tangled shitshow of accusations and recrimination. I also think all the real evidence was "disappeared" when he was arrested. And he was killed to seal the deal.

But that's just a guess. We don't really know, and it's clear that the DC people don't want us to know.
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If the CIA has information -
It is because they were running it
not investigating it.
 
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