Trump laws

[bripat9643]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Well, I think that this is another example of why we need term limits.

Those cowardly GQPers would have voted differently if they weren't scared about being primaried and losing their precious gubmit jobs.

That's how democracy works. You support democracy, don't you?

 

[Mac1958]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Well, I think that this is another example of why we need term limits.

Those cowardly GQPers would have voted differently if they weren't scared about being primaried and losing their precious gubmit jobs.

That's how democracy works. You support democracy, don't you?

Sure do, Trumpster!

 

[bripat9643]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Well, I think that this is another example of why we need term limits.

Those cowardly GQPers would have voted differently if they weren't scared about being primaried and losing their precious gubmit jobs.

That's how democracy works. You support democracy, don't you?

Sure do, Trumpster!

?Then you support politicians doing what their constituents want them to do. So why are you crying about it?

If we had term limits, a lot of Democrats would get the boot.

 

[boedicca]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

^^^ Diagnosis: Terminal Butthurt & TDS combined ^^^

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Oh.....get better soon!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Hate to break it to you but only in your empty mind does what you say make sense. In the RW, Rump is guilty as all hell. And there is going to be some kind of criminal court action on it against him even if it's only done the District of Columbia.

You can't use the courts against a citizen for what he or she did while serving the federal government. Furthermore, a court uses laws, empirical evidence, and facts. The Nazis impeached on claimed mind reading abilities. There are no Thought Police in our court system. The Nazis believe the book 1984 is a Democrat instruction manual.

You see, in a court of law, they would have to present to the court actual words--not what they "thought" some words meant. They would have to allow the defendant the ability to refute presented evidence, something the Nazis didn't allow in the House impeachment. They simply said "Trump did this" and impeached him on it. They didn't even operate this way in the former USSR.

You can support these un-Americans all you like, but the rest of us will continue to try and keep this a free country guided by the US Constitution.

If you didn't notice or hear, Moscow Mitch laid out the Constitution pretty well. While I don't think much of him, he was right this time. Rump could not be impeached because in order to get to the other points, he would have to be able to be removed from office. He is a private citizen. That means that he can't be removed from office, ergo, he can't be impeached and the Senate has no juristiction.

But if you think resigning or being voted out of office protects you from the civilian courts, check out Agnew. Vice President Agnew resigns
The charges were during the time he was VP where he was selling political favors on the side.

The courts disagree with you. Agnew was like a mini Rump Jr.

 

[Wyatt earp]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

First start off with term limits and see what happens..

 

[BULLDOG]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Would you require the same from all those in Congress?

No elected official should be able to use their position for personal enrichment.

 

[Nostra]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Would you require the same from all those in Congress?

No elected official should be able to use their position for personal enrichment.

Nice dodge.

Do you want Pelousy and Schumer to show their taxes and divest all their investments?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you didn't notice or hear, Moscow Mitch laid out the Constitution pretty well. While I don't think much of him, he was right this time. Rump could not be impeached because in order to get to the other points, he would have to be able to be removed from office. He is a private citizen. That means that he can't be removed from office, ergo, he can't be impeached and the Senate has no juristiction.

But if you think resigning or being voted out of office protects you from the civilian courts, check out Agnew. Vice President Agnew resigns
The charges were during the time he was VP where he was selling political favors on the side.

The courts disagree with you. Agnew was like a mini Rump Jr.

No, a President is immune from any judicial process which is why we have an impeachment process instead. Bill Clinton could not be imprisoned either while he was in officer or afterwards for committing the act of perjury.

In any case, there is zero proof that Trump had anything to do with the riot, and much proof that he didn't. The FBI, the pipe bombs, what the mob came there with is all evidence the riot was not spontaneous, it was planned ahead of time.

Now, the Nazis can impeach Trump on it even with no evidence, but a court of law couldn't do anything because a crime needs to proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[BULLDOG]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Would you require the same from all those in Congress?

No elected official should be able to use their position for personal enrichment.

Nice dodge.

Do you want Pelousy and Schumer to show their taxes and divest all their investments?

Sure, Why not?

 

[Nostra]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Would you require the same from all those in Congress?

No elected official should be able to use their position for personal enrichment.

Nice dodge.

Do you want Pelousy and Schumer to show their taxes and divest all their investments?

Sure, Why not?

Get back to me when Nazi and Chucky propose it.

Until then they can STFU.

 

[Jarlaxle]

and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments

You are not a total Communist? That isn't Marxism? What about that dictatorship of the proletariat that takes the place of the monied class of capitalists? Isn't that the same thing?

No dumb ass. It's making sure our president doesn't use his office to make money. Are you too stupid to see that?

This is satire...right?

 

[Jarlaxle]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Shoot all republican candidates on sight.

I should report this to the FBI.

Then do it *****.

Wrong sock account, Fido.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

If you didn't notice or hear, Moscow Mitch laid out the Constitution pretty well. While I don't think much of him, he was right this time. Rump could not be impeached because in order to get to the other points, he would have to be able to be removed from office. He is a private citizen. That means that he can't be removed from office, ergo, he can't be impeached and the Senate has no juristiction.

But if you think resigning or being voted out of office protects you from the civilian courts, check out Agnew. Vice President Agnew resigns
The charges were during the time he was VP where he was selling political favors on the side.

The courts disagree with you. Agnew was like a mini Rump Jr.

No, a President is immune from any judicial process which is why we have an impeachment process instead. Bill Clinton could not be imprisoned either while he was in officer or afterwards for committing the act of perjury.

In any case, there is zero proof that Trump had anything to do with the riot, and much proof that he didn't. The FBI, the pipe bombs, what the mob came there with is all evidence the riot was not spontaneous, it was planned ahead of time.

Now, the Nazis can impeach Trump on it even with no evidence, but a court of law couldn't do anything because a crime needs to proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

When an elected official resigns that ends the impeachment process and the judicial procedure begins. You can't remove a private citizen from a Federal Elected Office. According to you, all an elected official has to do to stop the charges is to resign their office. Didn't work so well for Agnew.

And the proof was presented where even some of the Rumpsters took that walk of shame but couldn't vote to remove him from office. Why? Because as guilty as he is, he was no longer IN office.

I made that same walk over 3 years ago. Many have done the same. The GOP rate of support for Rump has gone down from 95% to 85% and it's dropping fast. And those are the ones that stayed registered as Republicans. The ones that changed their affiliation to something else is not counted.

And, yes, it was planned ahead of time "Openly" so don't try and tell me that Rump was not advised to any of this ahead of time. No one is buying Rump innocense.

And if you haven't noticed, the Scholars have found that the proof presented meets the "Reasonable" and there is no "Reasonable Doubt" that can counter that when the actions of the accused counters any "Reasonable Doubt".

We prevented a Fascist takeover of the United States of America. Funny, you bring up Nazis when I can show you the exact same thing in Germany in 1933 but that was successful. And if I go back to 1926, I'll see it happen the first time by the Author that both Rump and Adolf subscribed to. We were two steps away from the 14 steps of becoming a Fascist (Nazi) Country but there were two doctrines of law that finally stopped it; the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You can call yourself a Patriot but that's a pretty hollow word to you.

 

[lantern2814]

and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments

You are not a total Communist? That isn't Marxism? What about that dictatorship of the proletariat that takes the place of the monied class of capitalists? Isn't that the same thing?

No dumb ass. It's making sure our president doesn't use his office to make money. Are you too stupid to see that?

Well since he gets a salary you better look at that again. That’s making money from your office. TDS thread #25,764

You are stupid, aren't you?

Well dummy, explain how getting a salary for holding the office is not gaining profit from that office? You can start sputtering and stammering in impotence now.

As I said before, You are really stupid.

SO you can’t answer a simple question. That makes YOU really stupid. Your surrender is noted.

Wages for serving in an office are not the same as making money as in the emoluments clause, dumb ass. I knew you were stupid, but I never met someone that stupid before.

hey asshole, you never mentioned the emoluments clause. You stated, “profit from the office”. Which taking a salary means. Maybe YOU need to not move those goalposts asshole. You got caught and now you’re trying to add things you didn’t originally say to try to cover your ass. Wow you’re a ******* moron. And you’re ***** slapped.

Salary is not profit. Even the IRS recognizes that. They are handled differently. Again, you are a real dumb ass.

So your claim now is that that $400,000 salary was money the person would have had anyway? Without being in that office? What an asshole you are. Moving the goalposts again. And getting ***** slapped again. Seems your dumb ass can’t even answer your own idiocy.

I've explained it enough. Wages and profit are not the same. If you can't get that, you are too stupid to deal with.

Not my fault you got caught with your pants down again. Start thinking before blurting stupidity. OH wait, it’s you........

 

[lantern2814]

Wow,do you mean that I have a 1st amendment right to invade the US Congress when it doesn't go the way I demand it does? Thanks for that clarification. Don't know about you, but if I were to entice a group to do that in my own name then I wouldn't see sunlight for at least 20 years.

But when we do it, we'll just tell them you said it was okay.

Is that what you think? A quick scenario here: You and your neighbor are talking over the fence. You tell him you need money so badly you are almost ready to rob a bank. So your neighbor actually does rob a bank to give you the money you need. Who do the police arrest, you or your neighbor?

The first amendment guarantees our right to free speech whether government likes that speech or not. Unless you can find the actual words Trump used to incite this riot, then there is no case. You can't blame Trump for how people reacted to what he said.

Furthermore we have several bits of evidence that whatever Trump said had nothing to do with the riot. The pipe bombs were planted well before that day or Trump's speech. The FBI warned the Capital police of a riot possibility the day before, and they came armed with zip lock handcuffs. This was not a spontaneous reaction to a speech, this was planned well ahead of time.

So now that it's been established that Trump's speech had nothing to do with the riot, what they actually impeached him on was exercising his first amendment rights.

Hate to break it to you but only in your empty mind does what you say make sense. In the RW, Rump is guilty as all hell. And there is going to be some kind of criminal court action on it against him even if it's only done the District of Columbia.

And you’ll utterly fail. Again.

 

[justinacolmena]

Not my fault you got caught with your pants down again. Start thinking before blurting stupidity. OH wait, it’s you........

Yep. There's a commie.

 

[BULLDOG]

and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments

You are not a total Communist? That isn't Marxism? What about that dictatorship of the proletariat that takes the place of the monied class of capitalists? Isn't that the same thing?

No dumb ass. It's making sure our president doesn't use his office to make money. Are you too stupid to see that?

Well since he gets a salary you better look at that again. That’s making money from your office. TDS thread #25,764

You are stupid, aren't you?

Well dummy, explain how getting a salary for holding the office is not gaining profit from that office? You can start sputtering and stammering in impotence now.

As I said before, You are really stupid.

SO you can’t answer a simple question. That makes YOU really stupid. Your surrender is noted.

Wages for serving in an office are not the same as making money as in the emoluments clause, dumb ass. I knew you were stupid, but I never met someone that stupid before.

hey asshole, you never mentioned the emoluments clause. You stated, “profit from the office”. Which taking a salary means. Maybe YOU need to not move those goalposts asshole. You got caught and now you’re trying to add things you didn’t originally say to try to cover your ass. Wow you’re a ******* moron. And you’re ***** slapped.

Salary is not profit. Even the IRS recognizes that. They are handled differently. Again, you are a real dumb ass.

So your claim now is that that $400,000 salary was money the person would have had anyway? Without being in that office? What an asshole you are. Moving the goalposts again. And getting ***** slapped again. Seems your dumb ass can’t even answer your own idiocy.

I've explained it enough. Wages and profit are not the same. If you can't get that, you are too stupid to deal with.

Not my fault you got caught with your pants down again. Start thinking before blurting stupidity. OH wait, it’s you........

Your logic would make any 6 year old proud.

 

[OKTexas]

In the aftermath of trump, it's clear that our laws are not sufficient to stop an immoral, unethical president, who cares more about his own brand than he does about the country. By right, those should be called " trump laws ", because he exposed our need for them. We can start by requiring all tax records from candidates, and requiring real, verified divestment of ALL investments, and strengthening our emoluments laws. Both parties should be interested in limiting the extralegal shenanigans we have seen because the next loose cannon could be from either party. Any ideas for more laws that should be enacted to assure the integrity of our politics?

Sure let's just dismiss that little thing called the Constitution, you know that document that actually sets forth the qualifications for a president. I wish you luck on getting an amendment passed.

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