Trump is looking to revive the Keystone XL oil pipeline on his first day

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Drill baby drill. This is what the Dems fear the most- an improving economy. They DO NOT want things to get better.
They want to see the middle and working classes punished for voting for Trump. Meanwhile, optimism will immediately make things better.

The Democrat boot is finally being taken off the throat of the US economy.

Well of course. He told the oil execs he would do his part for their bribes, and he intends to try.

Even Chinese oil execs. See whose oil will flow though the pipeline.

 

[SweetTea]

Is he going to put a 25% tariff on the oil?

Don’t know, but tariffs aren’t the boogie man you think they are for the country that holds all the cards. Mexico or Canada can retaliate all they would like, but the fact is that the US using power puts them at a major disadvantage. It is alsomost as if people don’t understand just how much larger the US economy is than the rest of the world. It dwarfs every other country. Tariffs is a way to negotiate and we should be doing so from a position of strength, not weakness.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Don’t know, but tariffs aren’t the boogie man you think they are for the country that holds all the cards. Mexico or Canada can retaliate all they would like, but the fact is that the US using power puts them at a major disadvantage. It is alsomost as if people don’t understand just how much larger the US economy is than the rest of the world. It dwarfs every other country. Tariffs is a way to negotiate and we should be doing so from a position of strength, not weakness.

Negotiate what? We already have a free trade agreement with Canada. You think they are going to build a pipeline to the US when you are charging 25% above WTI Spot for....reasons?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Negotiate what? We already have a free trade agreement with Canada. You think they are going to build a pipeline to the US when you are charging 25% above WTI Spot for....reasons?

People generally don't seem to understand is that this pipeline is meant for foreign oil companies to sell oil to foreign countries not named the united states.

 

[SweetTea]

Negotiate what? We already have a free trade agreement with Canada. You think they are going to build a pipeline to the US when you are charging 25% above WTI Spot for....reasons?

I was speaking to tariffs in general. I am not familiar with oil specific tariffs.

 

[JoeB131]

It is simple. I am saying that climate change is not an existential threat in anything approaching the near term, and in all likelihood, we can’t stop it anyway.

Move towards cleaner and alternative sources in a way that doesn’t put our country at a distinct economic advantage because I can promise you that is what China, India, Russia and most of the world is doing. We aren’t going to die due to climate change in our, our kids, our grandkids or our grandkid’s grandkid’s lifetimes.

China is investing 890 BILLION in clean energy, guy.

 

[JoeB131]

People generally don't seem to understand is that this pipeline is meant for foreign oil companies to sell oil to foreign countries not named the united states.

They don't care, as long as they get to Pwn the environmentalists. Never have I seen people so intent on doing stupid things just to show someone up.

 

[Frankenstein]

China is investing 890 BILLION in clean energy, guy.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/chinas-coal-use-output-are-rising-even-renewables-surge-russell-2024-09-18/

 

[SweetTea]

China is investing 890 BILLION in clean energy, guy.

Sure, and they will as long as they believe it will benefit them financially. They will not damage their production in the name of climate change. Won’t happen. They don’t believe the climate change hoax. They are just playing along and people like you fall for it. They know the US and EU will go overboard and put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. Gullible people like you in government are the problem.

 

[JoeB131]

Sure, and they will as long as they believe it will benefit them financially. They will not damage their production in the name of climate change. Won’t happen. They don’t believe the climate change hoax. They are just playing along and people like you fall for it. They know the US and EU will go overboard and put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. Gullible people like you in government are the problem.

$890 billion is not "playing along", it's a conscious choice.

Given population density in China, they have a vested interest in clean energy.

In 2013, I was playing host to a business associate from China. When we were driving through Chicago, she was amazed how clear the skies were and that you could see our wonderful skyline so clearly.

Since then, China has reduced it's air pollution levels by 40%.

China has Quickly and Sharply Reduced Pollution Since Enacting Strict Policies

PM2.5 Concentrations in Major Regions in Mainland China Over Time Source: The 2008 Olympics to the 2022 Olympics: China’s Fight to Win its War Against Pollution, Air Quality Life Index, February 2022 While the stubborn nature of the pollution challenge may seem daunting, China remains a beacon...

epic.uchicago.edu

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sure, and they will as long as they believe it will benefit them financially. They will not damage their production in the name of climate change. Won’t happen. They don’t believe the climate change hoax. They are just playing along and people like you fall for it. They know the US and EU will go overboard and put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. Gullible people like you in government are the problem.

It's funny when uneducated slobs think they have outsmarted the global scientific community, because they watched a youtube video.

 

[22lcidw]

People generally don't seem to understand is that this pipeline is meant for foreign oil companies to sell oil to foreign countries not named the united states.

There are different qualities of oil. Sweeter crude is better. And we get that for our nation. As long as we are top dog, we get the fillet of the meat.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There are different qualities of oil. Sweeter crude is better. And we get that for our nation. As long as we are top dog, we get the fillet of the meat.

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Get a grip on reality.

The US doesn't buy the oil. Private oil companies do. And only if they are the highest bidder.

The Keystine XL pipeline is designed to lower the cost of selling oil owned by foreign companies to foreigners and foreign governments.

This will allow the foreigners to be more competitive in bidding against American entities for the oil.

In short, the pipeline will raise prices for ol and gas in the US.

 

[SweetTea]

It's funny when uneducated slobs think they have outsmarted the global scientific community, because they watched a youtube video.

It isn’t about outsmarting them, it is about recognizing their biases. The global scientific community has been infected with a woke mind virus. In the case of heavily politicized things, much of the scientific community looks for ways to justify the outcome they want. Supreme Court justices do the same on the legal front.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The global scientific community has been infected with a woke mind virus

Sorry, I don't get my.opinions on complicated scientific topics from uneducated slobs.

And "woke" means anything you don't like or that makes you feel stupid.

 

[SweetTea]

Sorry, I don't get my.opinions on complicated scientific topics from uneducated slobs.

Trust in science, except when you can’t because it screws with your political ideology.

PS: Boys can’t turn into girls, but don’t worry, the scientific community is hard at work attempting to provide a scientific explanation that will obfuscate the matter just enough for people like you to believe that it is possible. That is how it works. They don’t expect you uneducated an dense folks to catch on.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trust in science, except when you can’t because it screws with your political ideology.

Yes, you to a 'T'.

So you still go to doctors and don't stick forks in electrical outlets.

But you watch a youtube video and think you outsmarted the global scientific community.

Because of your programming.

 

[JoeB131]

Trust in science, except when you can’t because it screws with your political ideology.

PS: Boys can’t turn into girls, but don’t worry, the scientific community is hard at work attempting to provide a scientific explanation that will obfuscate the matter just enough for people like you to believe that it is possible. That is how it works. They don’t expect you uneducated an dense folks to catch on.

Yet if you met this woman on the street, you'd probably never know she was born male.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And keep baby keep all that oil on our shores for our people.

How are you going to do that? Nationalize the oil companies? Oil is a global market, and you cannot change that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was speaking to tariffs in general. I am not familiar with oil specific tariffs.

There are none.