Trump is going to get America involved in another Viet Nam like War!

[JoeB131]

You honestly believe that the US has no intelligence operations in Venezuela? If you do, you're either naive or just plain stupid.

Um, we got into a long, bloody war with Iraq because the intelligence community INSISTED that Saddam was making a nuke and he was going to kill us all!!!

So, here's a crazy idea; have Trump show us what his evidence is that these fishing boats he's blowing up in violation of international law are really smuggling drugs.

 

[Mac-7]

So you are in a cult and you believe everything Spray-Tan Stalin tells you.

Got it.

You can believe whatever you want

I dont care

 

[JoeB131]

You can believe whatever you want

I dont care

Right. And if anyone dies in a war over a lie, that's their tough luck, right?

 

[Delldude]

You are worried about a war with Venezuela? But not the war we are fighting against Russia?

I honestly don’t know what this is about. Is it just most TDS programmed fear? FFS never mind we have been funding a proxy war against Russia for damn near a decade already, Rachel Maddow says Trump is going to get us into a Vietnam in Venezuela.

Trump's messing with Maduro. Getting him to leave, regime change, etc. The good old days of diplomacy.
I'm reading interesting things lately about Venezuela, CIA and voting machines. Not sure if there's any there there.

EXCLUSIVE: Former Maduro Spy Chief’s Letter To Trump Seeks To Expose Narco-Terrorist War Against U.S.

Exclusive: Former Venezuelan spy chief Hugo Carvajal warns President Trump in a new letter that Venezuela’s Maduro regime is operating as a narco-terrorist network targeting the U.S. through drugs, gangs, and espionage.

dallasexpress.com

 

[Mac-7]

Right. And if anyone dies in a war over a lie, that's their tough luck, right?

What war?

The only one that could pop up would be china invading Taiwan or attacking Japan

Which would involve America but could not be avoided

 

[Godboy]

America does not have the Military capability that we had under Ronald Reagan. Sure the Technology has vastly increased, but the capability of putting Massive numbers of "Boots on the ground", in "Two different Theaters of War" hasn't been the same, since Bush Sr.

Most war doesnt require "massive boots on the ground". If the idea is to get rid of Maduro, that can potentially be done with a single drone strike.

The thought that Venezuala could put up any resistance is laughable, and we dont fight like we did in Vietnam anymore.

 

[TimFitz]

Its obvious that Venezuela is trafficking drugs to the US

Prove it. What evidence do you have that The government of Venezuela is involved in drug running.

Most of the fentanyl that comes into the US comes through Mexico, and most of the cocaine comes from Columbia, Peru and Honduras (where your fuhrer just pardoned the biggest drug runner)

Explain why Trump is focused on Venezuela when most of the drugs come from somewhere else.

 

[TimFitz]

Most war doesnt require "massive boots on the ground". If the idea is to get rid of Maduro, that can potentially be done with a single drone strike.

The thought that Venezuala could put up any resistance is laughable, and we dont fight like we did in Vietnam anymore.

We talked our way into escalation after escalation in Vietnam with that kind of thinking.

 

[TimFitz]

You honestly believe that the US has no intelligence operations in Venezuela? If you do, you're either naive or just plain stupid.

Your claims are made up.

No evidence has been presented by this malignant regime to back up their empty claims.

You know it too. Which is why you’re trying to deflect. No substance. just another made up supposition.

You have not seen one shred of evidence.

Thanks for making my point.

 

[Mac-7]

Prove it.

I cant “prove” its happening any more thsn you can prove it isnt

We would need access to classified information that neither of us have

Most of the fentanyl that comes into the US comes through Mexico,

Or at least it used to before trump replaced biden as president and closed the border

 

[TimFitz]

I cant “prove” its happening any more thsn you can prove it isnt

We would need access to classified information that neither of us have

Most of the fentanyl that comes into the US comes through Mexico,

Or at least it used to before trump replaced biden as president and closed the border

We established long ago that you can’t prove your made up claims.

Thanks for admitting it.

Contrary to your incorrect claim, Trump’s war against people crossing the border has had little or no impact on the fentanyl trade. That trade arrives in container ships, trucks and trains crossing the border.

Both of which are safer and more reliable than trying to get would be illegal immigrants to carry it.

 

[Mac-7]

Contrary to your incorrect claim, Trump’s war against people crossing the border has had little or no impact on the fentanyl trade. That trade arrives in container ships, trucks and trains crossing the border.

Both of which are safer and more reliable than trying to get would be illegal immigrants to carry it.

We do the best we can

Its as if you argue that writing speeding tickets does not end traffic deaths so why bother at all?

 

[Godboy]

We talked our way into escalation after escalation in Vietnam with that kind of thinking.

Vietnam was a nation with a bunch of loyal communists. They fought to the death without hesitation.

You will NOT see suicidal Venezualans walking into a packed bar full of US military and pulling a pin from a grenade. You wont see guerilla camps all over the jungle. You wont see ANY of the resistance that we had in Vietnam.

 

[Mac-7]

We established long ago that you can’t prove your made up claims.

Thanks for admitting it.

Contrary to your incorrect claim, Trump’s war against people crossing the border has had little or no impact on the fentanyl trade. That trade arrives in container ships, trucks and trains crossing the border.

Both of which are safer and more reliable than trying to get would be illegal immigrants to carry it.

I repeat, you cant prove your claims either

We cant stop all drug smuggling

But we can make it expensive and painful for the criminals that we do catch

 

[Mashmont]

POTUS Donald Trump, who thought that he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize, without declaring War, bombed Iran.​

Then, instead of intercepting suspected drug running boats in American waters, & showing what these boats were carrying to the American people, he ordered American Forces to blow them up, In International Waters, which is An Act of War, and against International Law via the United Nations, which America is still a member of.

Now, Trump is apparently preparing to attack Venezuela, with American forces.

This "Wannabe, Nobel Peace Prize Winner" is apparently using George Orwell's book "1984" as Guide book.

"Peace is War"
===============

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Trump Declares Airspace Above Venezuela "To Be Closed In Its Entirety"​

by Tyler Durden
Authored...
" President Trump said on Saturday on X that the airspace above and surrounding Venezuela will "be closed in its entirety."

Trump Declares Airspace Above Venezuela "To Be Closed In Its Entirety"<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

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Troops going to Venezuela? Of course not. You're an noob.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Um, we got into a long, bloody war with Iraq because the intelligence community INSISTED that Saddam was making a nuke and he was going to kill us all!!!

So, here's a crazy idea; have Trump show us what his evidence is that these fishing boats he's blowing up in violation of international law are really smuggling drugs.

I'll have to dig up some older data, but,.... Saddam did gas a village that opposed him with Sarin. And he had a very, small Nuclear weapons program, but he was very limited on developing long range missiles.

Shortly before the Land Invasion, massive Iraqi convoys went in to the Bekaa (Sp?) Valley of Lebanon, & in to Syria.

Syria shortly after, announced that it had a Nuclear weapons program, which Israel later bombed. And a radical Muslim group from Lebanon, carried out a small gas attack in Jordan. Again, I'll have to dig up that data, but,.....

Saddam did not have the capabilities of Directly Attacking America, as the Bush Jr. Administration told the American people.

The Iraq War, accomplished nothing as in regards to bringing peace to the Middle-east, but it did strengthen the Shia & Sunni Muslims, in many ways, & it absolutely enriched the "Military/Industrial Complex", that Eisenhower Warned America about before he left Office.It also brought a closer Alliance between Russia, China, & Iran.

And once again,.... America wasted it's Resources, Cash, & Man Power, Fighting an Undeclared, & Unjustified War, with No Clear, & Precise Objective, nor resulting in the Total Defeat of an alleged Enemy.

The First Trump Admin. did not "Go Bonkers" about the so called "Venezuelan Drug Cartel". Sure he got a few small groups to enter Venezuela with hopes of starting a Revolution, and he backed the Opposition Candidate for President, but, Trump didn't go after Venezuela in the manner that he's doing now.

Trump in his "I Know Everything", "I Know more than the Generals!", "It will be the biggest, most beautiful....!" Mindset is "Light Years" from considering what Russia, & China, will do, if he attacks Venezuela.

This pretense of Bombing/Invading the Drug Cartels could easily be applied to Mexico, Columbia, Canada, & more!

Destroying alleged Venezuelan Drug boats, with it not being an Act of Self Defense, nor with Authorization from Congress, in International Waters is an Act of War, And against American, & International Law.

Trump, if he was/is truly concerned about drugs entering America via the seas, should have vastly increased Naval Forces in American waters. If these drug boats, once intercepted, fired upon American Forces, then YES! .... Blow them out of the water! But if these so called "Narco-Terrorists" surrendered,...... I'm sure that a great deal of Data could be retrieved, that eventually would lead to either shutting down, crippling, or destroying the Drug Cartels.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

POTUS Donald Trump, who thought that he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize, without declaring War, bombed Iran.​

Then, instead of intercepting suspected drug running boats in American waters, & showing what these boats were carrying to the American people, he ordered American Forces to blow them up, In International Waters, which is An Act of War, and against International Law via the United Nations, which America is still a member of.

Now, Trump is apparently preparing to attack Venezuela, with American forces.

This "Wannabe, Nobel Peace Prize Winner" is apparently using George Orwell's book "1984" as Guide book.

Sounds like he's merely entering their country uninvited, perhaps their courts will side with him.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

When did Venezuela become a bigger threat than Greenland ?

When the epstein files were exposed as a hoax and the media needed cover

He doesnt need a dustraction since he gutted the epstein files,

no he doesn't need a distraction, but who does need it tommy? ...white liberals of course

 

[TimFitz]

I cant “prove” its happening any more thsn you can prove it isnt

We would need access to classified information that neither of us have

Most of the fentanyl that comes into the US comes through Mexico,

Or at least it used to before trump replaced biden as president and closed the border

I repeat, you cant prove your claims either

We cant stop all drug smuggling

But we can make it expensive and painful for the criminals that we do catch

You can repeat all you want.

Now that we’ve cleared up the fact that your claims are all made up, we can go on to the facts you claim I can’t back up.

1.that Venezuela is not a big player in fentanyl running as Trump has claimed.

“Across every edition of the NDTA, Venezuela never appears as a fentanyl source or transit country. In other words, even the federal government’s own drug-intelligence apparatus does not link Venezuela to the US fentanyl supply.”

https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-venezuela-gambit-incoherent-encore-failed-drug-war

As for running drugs to the U.S,

Drug boats from Venezuela are mainly moving cocaine to Europe — not fentanyl to the U.S., experts say

The realities of Latin America’s drug trade challenge the administration’s stated rationale for its strikes against suspected drug smuggling boats.

www.nbcnews.com

As for how it comes in.

Frontline Against Fentanyl

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

 

[Tommy Tainant]

When the epstein files were exposed as a hoax and the media needed cover

no he doesn't need a distraction, but who does need it tommy? ...white liberals of course

Thats a poor effort. You have had plenty of time.