Trump Basically Declares War On Iran

[Rawley]

The United states tried nation building in Iraq which was a dismal failure.

Yup. Never again.

 

[TimFitz]

I know Obama did.

So did Trump and Biden. Buying off Hamas was seen as worth it, Israel supported it.

 

[Rawley]

Of course, this is not true.

I realize you have a short and selective memory.

Perhaps you don’t recall how the exact same right wing jingos promoted an unnecessary and unprovoked American invasion of Iraq.

Yup, the vegetable you put in the WH

 

[GLASNOST]

The United states tried nation building in Iraq which was a dismal failure.

The US suceeded in destroying the nation of Irak but I am not aware of any effort on the part of the US to build it.

 

[Captain Caveman]

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And for what? Iran has been working on nuclear weapons for years. So what. Would they use them on israel? Israel already has nuclear weapons. (Which they got from us) If Iran was to ever nuke israel, israel would just nuke them back. Neither side would win in that situation. So it all sounds like a B.S. distraction to me.

And here is a shining example as to how amazingly stupid Trump is. Criminally stupid if you ask me. (But with him already being a criminal, that's no surprise) What does Trump think he is going to do, bomb Iran into submission? Israel can't do that with Hamas in the tiny Gaza Strip. The U.S. could never do so in the much larger Iran. Also, we lost in Iraq. All we did was basically turn the country over to Iran and created ISIS. We also lost in Afghanistan. All we ended up doing was fund and arm the hell out of the Taliban.

Here is another point, israel and all those living there aren't worth wiping your ass with. Don't ask me any of the MANY reasons why. Because with this forum basically being owned by israel, I would never be allowed to tell you.

Please rewrite your op if Obama or Biden was the current president.

 

[TimFitz]

I agree that the US invasion of Iraq was a mistake

However it was not unprovoked or illegal

As for the current trouble with Iran Trump has been careful to keep US support of Israel in the background

So far he has not committed American aircraft over Iran and its been strictly an Israeli show

That may soon change if the US bunker buster bombs are needed to finish the job

If so feel free to squeal your lungs out in protest

But it will happen without your consent

The US invasion of Iraq was entirely unprovoked.

it was an agressive attack by one sovereign stat against another. It was definately illegal.

If Trump is stupid enough let Netanyahu lead him into a war, the consequences will huge and long lasting.

Trump isn’t being careful. He has ramped up his jingoistic warmongering within recent days. His Gulf of Arabia declaration was just such a provocation.

And we are moving two carrier task forces into the Gulf.

Trump is not keeping his support of Israel in the background at all. He’s bellowing it, and making threats against Iran routinely now.

“If so feel free to squeal your lungs out in protest”

How narrow minded, pointless and stupid!

I opposed the Iraq War vehemently, and got attacked regularly by know nothings who believed the lies Bush and Fox fed them.

Iwas right.

I will be right Agsin if your beloved fuhrer starts a new war,

And the scary part is that he is dumb enough to do it.

 

[Mac-7]

You get duped every time.

“Sadam is an oppressive dictator torturing his own people, we will liberate them!”

“Gadaffi is oppressive dictator murdering his own people, we will liberate them”

“Assad is oppressive dictator murdering his own people, we will liberate them!”

People who STILL believe this shit are psyops or the dumbest most gullible tools on earth. -Jimmy Dore

The iran nuclear program is real

And so is their threat to use nuclear weapons if they have them

 

[Missourian]

WE ARE NOT ISRAEL. THEY WANT US TO FIGHT THEIR WARS!

They want us to drop a couple of bunker buster bombs...bombs only we have.

I've been on the fence about it. But I agree that a group that believes the more infidels they kill, the greater their reward in Heaven cannot be allowed access to nuclear weapons.

Both Ukraine and Israel have snuck weapons into their enemies countries covertly in the last four months. I'm not worried about a ICBM attack from Iran. I'm worried about a cargo container nuclear attack, or a civilian plane nuclear attack, or a donkey nuclear attack... or worst of all, the covert nuclear attack so creative, we aren't even remotely watching for it.

Better to nip that shit in the bud strategically with minimal lose of life and deal with the fallout than to do nothing and one day have to deal with actual fallout.

"A stitch in time saves nine."

That's my thoughts, anyway.

 

[Godboy]

And for what? Iran has been working on nuclear weapons for years. So what.

...and now they are about to get wrecked for it. If you dont like it, tough shit. You whining about it wont save Iran from the epic beatdown coming their way. Just sit back and enjoy the show.

 

[Mac-7]

The US invasion of Iraq was entirely unprovoked.

Not unprovoked

Saddam invaded Kuwait and was under UN probation that was administered by the US and other nations

I agree that our intelligence was faulty and the Iraq nuclear threat was overblown

But there is no doubt about what the Irans are up to

 

[Frankeneinstein]

An Iranian missile hit a hospital in Israel.

White liberal: "file it way back there next to 0ct. 7th"

 

[TimFitz]

Yup, the vegetable you put in the WH

What?

 

[Rawley]

What?

THe vegetable you put in the WH fully supported the invasion of Iraq.

 

[E. Pluribus]

Trump should stick with domestic issues here in the U.S.

 

[TimFitz]

Not unprovoked

Saddam invaded Kuwait and was under UN probation that was administered by the US and other nations

I agree that our intelligence was faulty and the Iraq nuclear threat was overblown

But there is no doubt about what the Irans are up to

Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1991. That war had broad international support, was run by smart people with a real understanding of the region and a real plan.

Bush started the Iraq war in 2003.

The plan was half assed, and the Pentagon was more interested in starting a war than in managing one.

Bush’s men told us this war would be over by Christmas and would pay for itself.

Our intelligence was not to blame, although the Bush team made a spectacle of trying to make it appear that way.

The claims that Bush made and that right wing media amplified and exaggerated all came from a former CIA front group called the Iraqi National Congress, which manufactured lurid fictional claims and fed them to Rumsfeld, Cheney, Lutti, Wolfowitz, Pearle and others in the Pentagon and the White House. When the CIA said there was little evidence, they were ordered to go back and manufacture some.

There was no Iraqi nuclear threat,

Outside the US, the world saw all these lurid claims as a smokescreen for an American oil grab. (Which was the real objective),

Contrary to your claim, the United States was not acting on behalf of the UN.

 

[TimFitz]

THe vegetable you put in the WH fully supported the invasion of Iraq.

Biden went along, just like the rest of them. It wasn’t his idea.

It was still Bush’s war.

 

[Blaster]

Biden went along, just like the rest of them. It wasn’t his idea.

It was still Bush’s war.

Bush and his dad were both terrible Presidents.

 

[TimFitz]

They want us to drop a couple of bunker buster bombs...bombs only we have.

I've been on the fence about it. But I agree that a group that believes the more infidels they kill, the greater their reward in Heaven cannot be allowed access to nuclear weapons.

Both Ukraine and Israel have snuck weapons into their enemies countries covertly in the last four months. I'm not worried about a ICBM attack from Iran. I'm worried about a cargo container nuclear attack, or a civilian plane nuclear attack, or a donkey nuclear attack... or worst of all, the covert nuclear attack so creative, we aren't even remotely watching for it.

Better to nip that shit in the bud strategically with minimal lose of life and deal with the fallout than to do nothing and one day have to deal with actual fallout.

"A stitch in time saves nine."

That's my thoughts, anyway.

That is exactly the same sort of thinking that led to the Iraq war in 2003.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

“If so feel free to squeal your lungs out in protest”

what/who are you quoting?

How narrow minded, pointless and stupid!

Sounds like viewers of the "no-kings day" charade.

I opposed the Iraq War vehemently, and got attacked regularly by know nothings who believed the lies Bush and Fox fed them.

plagiarizing trump now?

Iwas right.

like trump always says.

 

[TimFitz]

Bush and his dad were both terrible Presidents.

OK