Trump Ballroom Unlikely To Be Built

[Norm Paperman]

You guys sound like you don't care about the state of the White House at all....I suppose you think it would be fine if it started to crumble.

Just the opposite is true. We do care about the state of the White House which is why we are unhappy part of it was demolished.

Those that do not oppose this are the ones that do not care about the state of the White House.

 

[80zephyr]

Obama added lines and a hoop to the already existing tennis courts.

Not really the same thing as tearing down an entire wing of the White House.

Deflection. I did not benefit from it.

 

[Nostra]

Obama got approval from Congress based upon a report on the state of the White House that was completed by the GW Bush administration. The work upgraded water pipes and electrical systems and improved heating, cooling and fire alarm systems, some of which hadn’t been updated since 1902.

The American people do not mind spending money on upkeep of the White House since it belongs to them, not to whomever the current president happens to be.

Compared to Trump tearing down the entire east wing without asking anyone.

Seems you are your own worst enemy here.

Obama used our money. Trump isn’t.

 

[80zephyr]

It is not free. Once it is built funding will have to be used for upkeep.

And if you tear it down, it will cost millions to restore the grounds.

 

[kyzr]

Correct. That is a wide open high ceiling space. Incorrect that it would impractical to repurpose it.
Leave the shell. Rip out the tacky decorations and strip it down to external walls. Since it's a wide open space already, they don't even have to worry about existing interior load bearing walls - as there aren't any.

The newest fad in office space design is "open space", rethink how Suzie could reorganize how she gets information...

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The new Building will essentially be a 2 story building because of the high vaulted ceilings. If the rumored 90,000 square feet are true, that means it could be converted to two-story space probably in the order of 140,000 - 150,000 square feet (subtracting wall thickness, stairwells, and elevators as non usable space).

Nope. All you would need is a few computer screens to keep with AI tracking of worldwide events and government responses in real-time to keep the president informed.

That means cost savings because White House staff and those from other agencies that are dedicated to White House support that are currently housed on rented/purchased space in other buildings could be move to the repurposed building. WW

True, but that would not really take up much of the available floor space.

 

[Lockback]

Obama used our money. Trump isn’t.

This one simple fact is simply too deep for the simple-minded socialists who automatically assume that government funds everything.

 

[Norm Paperman]

And if you tear it down, it will cost millions to restore the grounds.

If it gets built tearing it down would be stupid. Though I do like the idea of the other poster on here about repurposing it into something useful.

 

[Mashmont]

Frankly, I can't think of a better metaphor for the whole Trump Regime. They are very good at tearing things down, but they suck at actually building anything.

I think you meant the Democrats. 0bama's boondoggle library is only five years late and still hasn't opened. Mismanaged, shoddily built, over budget, and still not finished. A monument to leftwing incompetence.

Democrats are great at rioting, protesting, destroying, defacing, burning now, shutting down intersections and the government. But they don't know how to build anything, run anything, or actually help people.

 

[Nostra]

Just the opposite is true. We do care about the state of the White House which is why we are unhappy part of it was demolished.

Those that do not oppose this are the ones that do not care about the state of the White House.

Did you know the East wing wasn’t part of the original White House? Pretty sure the new facility will work as a “receiving area” just fine.

• 1902 – President Theodore Roosevelt ordered the construction of the East and West Wings. While the West Wing housed offices for the president’s staff, the East Wing primarily served as a receiving area for visitors and guests attending functions at the White House. It featured a circular driveway with a porte cochère where guests would drive their carriages up to the entrance and a coat room known as “the hatbox.” Guests passed through the East Colonnade and entered the main White House through the Ground Floor. 4
  
  
  
  
• 1942 – President Franklin D. Roosevelt expanded the East Wing’s footprint and added a second story. He originally intended it to house a White House museum, but the space became filled with offices and support staff. During the expansion, an underground bomb shelter was constructed as the United States had recently entered World War II. President Roosevelt also converted a room previously used as a coat room into a movie theater.

 

[Norm Paperman]

This one simple fact is simply too deep for the simple-minded socialists who automatically assume that government funds everything.

It is an irrelevant fact.

 

[kyzr]

Construction of the White House Ballroom: Frequently Asked Questions | National Trust for Historic Preservation

Who owns the White House? The White House is owned by the federal government and is frequently said to be owned by the American people, as indicated on the National Park Service website.

savingplaces.org

WW

Skipping to the good part:
The government would be required to comply with the following processes before new construction at the White House:

• The National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC) has review authority over new construction on federal properties in the capital region, including the White House, and NCPC has exercised that authority in recent years with the approval of a new security fence and a tennis pavilion at the White House.
• The Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) would have an advisory review before new construction takes place at the White House.

These review processes also include the opportunity for the American public to comment on the project.

Under Article 2 the president has control of the NCPC/CFA. He can replace them at will.
Congress controls the purse, so one would think that congress would approve any funds for major renovations, but if the president uses donated funds there are no legal restraints to his renovations.

 

[Lockback]

It is an irrelevant fact.

What an absurd statement.

 

[Nostra]

If it gets built tearing it down would be stupid. Though I do like the idea of the other poster on here about repurposing it into something useful.

Such as?

 

[Nostra]

It is an irrelevant fact.

No stupid, it’s a huge fact.

 

[kyzr]

If you do not own something, you are not allowed to modify it without permission.

So who has standing to stop the president's Whitehouse renovation?

 

[j-mac]

Obama got approval from Congress based upon a report on the state of the White House that was completed by the GW Bush administration. The work upgraded water pipes and electrical systems and improved heating, cooling and fire alarm systems, some of which hadn’t been updated since 1902.

The American people do not mind spending money on upkeep of the White House since it belongs to them, not to whomever the current president happens to be.

Compared to Trump tearing down the entire east wing without asking anyone.

Seems you are your own worst enemy here.

The bolded here is a total lie...It's nonsense...Trump had to have approval from DC permitting, and Historical approval for ANY construction company to work on the building....That's just a fact.

 

[Nostra]

Skipping to the good part:
The government would be required to comply with the following processes before new construction at the White House:

• The National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC) has review authority over new construction on federal properties in the capital region, including the White House, and NCPC has exercised that authority in recent years with the approval of a new security fence and a tennis pavilion at the White House.
• The Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) would have an advisory review before new construction takes place at the White House.

These review processes also include the opportunity for the American public to comment on the project.

Under Article 2 the president has control of the NCPC. He can replace them at will.
Congress controls the purse, so one would think that congress would approve any funds for major renovations, but if the president uses donated funds there are no legal restraints to his renovations.

/thread.

 

[Norm Paperman]

So who has standing to stop the president's Whitehouse renovation?

Congress I would suspect, but they are too weak to stand up to anything that the president does.

 

[rightwinger]

And once he slaps his name on them he spends millions on renovations.

And they have 2 major Hotel projects in the works now.

You are clueless, as always.

link or it didn’t happen

 

[postman]

You say that, but I’m pretty confident that if Biden or Obama had done this, you’d be saying “other presidents have made changes! It’s a good idea! He doesn’t need permission!”

i really think this is ALL about trump, 100%

Other presidents have made changes.
Like the drapes and the carpets.
Of course Obama made a major change to the outside tennis court, by adding basketball hoops, and painting additional lines. He didn't tear up the existing tennis court.