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I voted Whistleblower-- but you should have had PATRIOT for a choice!
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Both him and Bradley Manning should be given a medal, in my opinion. It's a sad day in America when the truth is considered treason.
so you and Kevin believe everything which the Federal does must be done in public for everyone in the world to be privy to and nothing should be secret?
So before June 6, 1944 The Federal Government had a duty to have a press conference to announce the invasion and if they did not an officer in IKE's command would have a duty to tell the news and thus Hitler?
I voted Whistleblower-- but you should have had PATRIOT for a choice!
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."
I have no doubt the answer will be offered based on political leaning so give a rational reason for your vote.
STLtoday : NSA contractor risks steep jail time for data leak
IMO this one should be pretty independant of political leanings.
Afterall the boy went to work for the NSA during the reign of Bush when our rights were taken away and blew the whistle when Obama proved to be more of the same.
Folks who supported the Patriot Act back when need to take a consistency check I suppose if they are against it now but it seems to smear both parties evenly....maybe the far right "terrorists hunters" more and the hippies less? I guess?
Both him and Bradley Manning should be given a medal, in my opinion. It's a sad day in America when the truth is considered treason.
so you and Kevin believe everything which the Federal does must be done in public for everyone in the world to be privy to and nothing should be secret?
So before June 6, 1944 The Federal Government had a duty to have a press conference to announce the invasion and if they did not an officer in IKE's command would have a duty to tell the news and thus Hitler?
Yes, because fighting the Nazis and spying on American citizens is almost EXACTLY the same thing...
I voted Whistleblower-- but you should have had PATRIOT for a choice!
So, In your opinion any member of the government has a patriotic duty to disclose any information he or she learns in the course of their job which they belief should be released to the public?
I voted Whistleblower-- but you should have had PATRIOT for a choice!
So, In your opinion any member of the government has a patriotic duty to disclose any information he or she learns in the course of their job which they belief should be released to the public?
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."
I have no doubt the answer will be offered based on political leaning so give a rational reason for your vote.
STLtoday : NSA contractor risks steep jail time for data leak
IMO this one should be pretty independant of political leanings.
Afterall the boy went to work for the NSA during the reign of Bush when our rights were taken away and blew the whistle when Obama proved to be more of the same.
Folks who supported the Patriot Act back when need to take a consistency check I suppose if they are against it now but it seems to smear both parties evenly....maybe the far right "terrorists hunters" more and the hippies less? I guess?
He was a security guard for the NSA during the Bush administration. What does a security guard know about NSA surveillance?
Then he went to work for the CIA.
THEN he got another job connected with the NSA. He was at that one for less than 3 months.
Both him and Bradley Manning should be given a medal, in my opinion. It's a sad day in America when the truth is considered treason.
so you and Kevin believe everything which the Federal does must be done in public for everyone in the world to be privy to and nothing should be secret?
So before June 6, 1944 The Federal Government had a duty to have a press conference to announce the invasion and if they did not an officer in IKE's command would have a duty to tell the news and thus Hitler?
Both him and Bradley Manning should be given a medal, in my opinion. It's a sad day in America when the truth is considered treason.
so you and Kevin believe everything which the Federal does must be done in public for everyone in the world to be privy to and nothing should be secret?
So before June 6, 1944 The Federal Government had a duty to have a press conference to announce the invasion and if they did not an officer in IKE's command would have a duty to tell the news and thus Hitler?
Yes, because fighting the Nazis and spying on American citizens is almost EXACTLY the same thing...
Both him and Bradley Manning should be given a medal, in my opinion. It's a sad day in America when the truth is considered treason.
so you and Kevin believe everything which the Federal does must be done in public for everyone in the world to be privy to and nothing should be secret?
So before June 6, 1944 The Federal Government had a duty to have a press conference to announce the invasion and if they did not an officer in IKE's command would have a duty to tell the news and thus Hitler?
And that's not a straw-man argument at all.
so you and Kevin believe everything which the Federal does must be done in public for everyone in the world to be privy to and nothing should be secret?
So before June 6, 1944 The Federal Government had a duty to have a press conference to announce the invasion and if they did not an officer in IKE's command would have a duty to tell the news and thus Hitler?
And that's not a straw-man argument at all.
Nice try Kevin. Suppose you offer an example of when the disclosure of secret information is LEGAL?
Treason is a bit much, but there are a lot of other charges that can be made against him.
First, when he took that job he would have had to sign a statement saying that he would not disclose any secret information - "The Industrial Security Code". This gets pretty specific about the punishments for any infractions.
Second, as a systems administrator, he is not supposed to be poking around with either the applications or the data. This isn't a law, it's more of the standard ethics. It should be that systems administrators are bonded or something. We are routinely exposed to all kinds of data and usually have full administrative rights to everything in any network that we work on.
I've been surprised how there is no legal standards required for system administrators. I guess companies wouldn't want a legal requirement because sysadmins are already a very highly paid position. Any legal requirement would force our salaries up - most companies would rather take the risk, but government shouldn't.