Today I leave for the war (an American deploys to Iraq for the 3rd time)

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Today I leave for the war

Well it's time to go and do what I have been called to do. Today I head for to the war for the third time and I have some things to say. To me this is a blessing, a calling from God to do what I can to help our brave men and women in uniform. Also this post is for my family as some of them still don't understand why I am on my third trip to Iraq. First of all:

K, you have been the best sister a brother could ever have, you and I had some good fights when we were kids, but you were always there if I truly needed you. We don't see eye to eye on anything political, and you are one of those people calling for our troops to come home now. I love you, but you are wrong in this count, you have three boys and if we don't do this right, it will have to be done again and it could be your boys next time. When I'm in Iraq, I think about my three nephews and how I don't want to see them in DCU's in the next decade, I want to fight our enemies in their country until they either surrender or become so ineffective they aren't a threat to any of us. I don't want my nephews fighting a fight that I couldn't finish, I want them to go to college or play professional soccer, or be beach bums. However, if they choose to become soldiers I would be proud to be in the same chain that links all military personnel past present and future, the chain that holds America together. That being said I would prefer they not have to fight the war I have seen, I would prefer they not lose any friends like I have and I wish that they would never lose their innocence by having to kill another human being. War takes so much out of a person, it changes us in ways that are almost never positive and I would not want your boys to have to go through what I have. I hope one day you understand, that I don't do this for the money, that Bush is not Hitler, and that the people of Iraq deserve as much a chance at a better life as we were given. You and G and the boys will be on my mind the entire time I am in Kirkuk.

Mom, I was the baby of the family and I know you still view me as that little boy that wouldn't eat his green beans and only wanted peanut butter. I am still that little boy inside, but I am so much more now, I am a husband and a veteran, and now a successful man with my own family. I chose to go back to Iraq this time, because I believe in a better world. At 30 I am more of an idealist now than I was at 20, I believe one person can make a difference. I know you will worry about me the entire time I am gone, but you won't tell me how scared you are. I just wanted to say it's ok, I am on the path that brings me the greatest happiness. No matter what happens to me, I am doing what I believe is my destiny, I come from a family of warriors, your family and Dad's were all warriors, it's what they knew. I am a product of their collective service to nation, this isn't about adventure or money or some death wish, it's about doing the right thing. The men and women and especially the children of Iraq are worth fighting for, when I see them I know that any sacrifice I can make is worth it. What kind of man would I be if I refused to help someone in need? How could I live my life knowing that someone was being tortured and I stood by and sipped my latte and refused to get off my ass? I don't know if you will ever understand what drives me Mom, just being able to help one Iraqi is worth my life. People on this planet are so hell bent on persecuting others, they are so concerned with appearing strong that they prey on the weak and the helpless. Mom, the people of Iraq were helpless and being crushed by a petty clone of Adolph Hitler, now they have hope where before they had none. Iraq is a mess, but it is a mess because freedom is messy, we had to fight a Civil War that nearly killed 500,000 of us just to make all men and women free. Iraq is already having to fight a soul searing conflict with itself to find itself. How could we abandon these people to this chaos? I will continue to support this cause until we win, we lose, or I am knocked out of commission. I cannot call myself a man and abandon the men, women and children of Iraq to brutal butchers, I've made my choice. You'll be in my heart everyday.

Dad, you are my hero, I don't know if I've ever told you that, but you are. You served in Vietnam and came back and made a life for yourself and your family. You did everything you could to provide for K and I, you worked extra hours to make sure we never went without. You never took sick time even though you were out in the elements everyday, you are the definition of what a man is, I hope one day I am half the man that you are. I think you understand what drives me and why I have to keep doing this job. When you were here in Hawaii to visit me and you told me you were proud of me was a moment I'll never forget. I can't let the people of Iraq suffer without doing something, I know I am only one person, but you were only one person and you did so many things in your life. I want to be like you, but I want to do so much more, I know I'm not going to "save the world", but everyday I can do a good deed, whether in Iraq or in Hawaii is a day that I feel like I have done my job as a man and an American. I know you understand!

Jan, my wife, my love, my life, this has got to be the hardest on you. This is the third time I have asked you to take a leap of faith and believe that no harm will come to me in Iraq. Three times I have left you and our puppies behind to pursue some quixotic belief that I can make the world a slightly better place. Three times I have left you behind to pay the bills, and manage the house and so many other things that no one should be forced to do by themselves. I have not been with you for 3 of our seven anniversary's because of my commitment to this. All I can say to you is thank you! I will always love you for your patience and your support of me and my ideals. I know that I make your life hard with these deployments, and for that I am sorry, I wish that it were easier to be away from you, but it's not. In fact, each deployment it gets harder and harder for me to say goodbye, I've lost friends now and had a few close calls myself, but I can't quit doing this. You know why, you more than anyone else understand why. You and I both believe it is our destiny to do whatever we can to make the world better. We are two tiny fish in the enormous universal ocean, but we both know one person can make a difference. When I am in Iraq I know you are in my heart at every moment and that our faith and love protects me. I firmly believe God has a plan for both of us, we are his instruments to do what we can to make the world better. So don't worry about me this time, I am doing what I was meant to do, and I have never been happier. So go and find my molly-molly and give her a scratch behind the ears.

For anyone that reads this; yes I am a 30 year old idealist, at 20 I was a cynic, but now I have a mission in life and a purpose. I found God, but I am far from a religious fanatic, I found a God that inspired me to do good deeds just for the sake of doing good. I can feel his prescence in everything around me, the sunset, the waves crashing on a Hawaiian beach and even in the evening breeze that is laced with plumeria. I would call myself a soldier of God, but not in any way that says he favors me or my cause. I am a soldier of our lord because I choose to serve the side of good, good is opening a door for a stranger, or helping your neighbor empty his trashcan, or going to Iraq because you want to help a people find their voice and feel what we feel when we think of our freedoms. The most fundamental question I ask myself every day is: If I have the chance to do good, even if there is a terrible price to pay, why wouldn't I? I wish more Americans would ask themselves this question, if you can do good, what on earth would stop you from following through?

Finally I just wanted to state one more time, Iraq is the whole bag of marbles, if our ideas win there, then militant Islam will wither on the vine and eventually die. If we lose in Iraq, the world will become a much darker place where the evils of the past such as slavery and holy wars will become the norm. I ask the people of America this question; We are the last hope for this planet to realize its potential, the Europeans are too weak to do it, what kind of world do we want for our children to live in? I made my choice, and now I leave to do what I believe is my duty. God bless my family, God bless our brave men and women in uniform, God bless all Americans and God bless America.

Caelestis

P.S. Love you my hummingbird


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yes, bless you, thank you and safe return. i'm like your sister. but to be honest, it doesn't matter if the mission is the right thing to do. you do what the country asks you to do regardless. we all just hope our leaders exercise good judgement. I don't think the gop has. I think they spread you thin on purpose so they could bring in haloburton. $. they knew iraq would turn into a quagmire but did it anyways. and bush admitted it was for oil.

big oil killed the batery car and nytrogen technology. arabs will always hate us. why is condy inviting more and more iranians to the us if they are a terrorist state? oh I know her answer, but it makes no sense to befriend 100 here and murder a million there. we've created more terrorists, so mission is far from accomplished. yes you have made great gains, but it is bankrupting us. this is how russia fell.

anyways, stay safe. you are a hero. we all respect you. don't let them politicize the respect we all have for you. I support the troops, just not the mission.

iran is now more powerful and nothing we do will keep them out of iraq.

ps. what will happen at the end of the yr? either the un has to approve our extended invasion or iraq has to ask us to stay. I bet we make iraq an offer we can't refuse. and we'll be in iraq for 100 yrs to pump the oil for exxon. they just won the contract. still gas went up. so why we fight and fund iraq if they don't share profits with consumers?
 
yes, bless you, thank you and safe return. i'm like your sister. but to be honest, it doesn't matter if the mission is the right thing to do. you do what the country asks you to do regardless. we all just hope our leaders exercise good judgement. I don't think the gop has. I think they spread you thin on purpose so they could bring in haloburton. $. they knew iraq would turn into a quagmire but did it anyways. and bush admitted it was for oil.

big oil killed the batery car and nytrogen technology. arabs will always hate us. why is condy inviting more and more iranians to the us if they are a terrorist state? oh I know her answer, but it makes no sense to befriend 100 here and murder a million there. we've created more terrorists, so mission is far from accomplished. yes you have made great gains, but it is bankrupting us. this is how russia fell.

anyways, stay safe. you are a hero. we all respect you. don't let them politicize the respect we all have for you. I support the troops, just not the mission.

iran is now more powerful and nothing we do will keep them out of iraq.

ps. what will happen at the end of the yr? either the un has to approve our extended invasion or iraq has to ask us to stay. I bet we make iraq an offer we can't refuse. and we'll be in iraq for 100 yrs to pump the oil for exxon. they just won the contract. still gas went up. so why we fight and fund iraq if they don't share profits with consumers?

You DO realize this thread is 3 years old? Geez you are thick as a damned brick.
 
A guy I know who had been to Iraq pulled me aside and said, "George Bush is a madman and must be stopped."

I couldn't believe it. I barely knew the guy.
 
A guy I know who had been to Iraq pulled me aside and said, "George Bush is a madman and must be stopped."

I couldn't believe it. I barely knew the guy.

Neither can I...
 
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yes, bless you, thank you and safe return. i'm like your sister. but to be honest, it doesn't matter if the mission is the right thing to do. you do what the country asks you to do regardless. we all just hope our leaders exercise good judgement. I don't think the gop has. I think they spread you thin on purpose so they could bring in haloburton. $. they knew iraq would turn into a quagmire but did it anyways. and bush admitted it was for oil.

Nice way to politicize a good thread. Take your liberal propaganda elsewhere.

big oil killed the batery car and nytrogen technology. arabs will always hate us. why is condy inviting more and more iranians to the us if they are a terrorist state? oh I know her answer, but it makes no sense to befriend 100 here and murder a million there. we've created more terrorists, so mission is far from accomplished. yes you have made great gains, but it is bankrupting us. this is how russia fell.

Once again, quit drinking the lib kool aid.

anyways, stay safe. you are a hero. we all respect you. don't let them politicize the respect we all have for you. I support the troops, just not the mission.

Didn't you just politicize the whole thing????

iran is now more powerful and nothing we do will keep them out of iraq.

ps. what will happen at the end of the yr? either the un has to approve our extended invasion or iraq has to ask us to stay. I bet we make iraq an offer we can't refuse. and we'll be in iraq for 100 yrs to pump the oil for exxon. they just won the contract. still gas went up. so why we fight and fund iraq if they don't share profits with consumers?

Wow, you're full of joy and cheer. How about leaving politics out of something and telling the guy to stay safe and come home soon?
 
Today I leave for the war

Well it's time to go and do what I have been called to do. Today I head for to the war for the third time and I have some things to say. To me this is a blessing, a calling from God to do what I can to help our brave men and women in uniform. Also this post is for my family as some of them still don't understand why I am on my third trip to Iraq. First of all:

K, you have been the best sister a brother could ever have, you and I had some good fights when we were kids, but you were always there if I truly needed you. We don't see eye to eye on anything political, and you are one of those people calling for our troops to come home now. I love you, but you are wrong in this count, you have three boys and if we don't do this right, it will have to be done again and it could be your boys next time. When I'm in Iraq, I think about my three nephews and how I don't want to see them in DCU's in the next decade, I want to fight our enemies in their country until they either surrender or become so ineffective they aren't a threat to any of us. I don't want my nephews fighting a fight that I couldn't finish, I want them to go to college or play professional soccer, or be beach bums. However, if they choose to become soldiers I would be proud to be in the same chain that links all military personnel past present and future, the chain that holds America together. That being said I would prefer they not have to fight the war I have seen, I would prefer they not lose any friends like I have and I wish that they would never lose their innocence by having to kill another human being. War takes so much out of a person, it changes us in ways that are almost never positive and I would not want your boys to have to go through what I have. I hope one day you understand, that I don't do this for the money, that Bush is not Hitler, and that the people of Iraq deserve as much a chance at a better life as we were given. You and G and the boys will be on my mind the entire time I am in Kirkuk.

Mom, I was the baby of the family and I know you still view me as that little boy that wouldn't eat his green beans and only wanted peanut butter. I am still that little boy inside, but I am so much more now, I am a husband and a veteran, and now a successful man with my own family. I chose to go back to Iraq this time, because I believe in a better world. At 30 I am more of an idealist now than I was at 20, I believe one person can make a difference. I know you will worry about me the entire time I am gone, but you won't tell me how scared you are. I just wanted to say it's ok, I am on the path that brings me the greatest happiness. No matter what happens to me, I am doing what I believe is my destiny, I come from a family of warriors, your family and Dad's were all warriors, it's what they knew. I am a product of their collective service to nation, this isn't about adventure or money or some death wish, it's about doing the right thing. The men and women and especially the children of Iraq are worth fighting for, when I see them I know that any sacrifice I can make is worth it. What kind of man would I be if I refused to help someone in need? How could I live my life knowing that someone was being tortured and I stood by and sipped my latte and refused to get off my ass? I don't know if you will ever understand what drives me Mom, just being able to help one Iraqi is worth my life. People on this planet are so hell bent on persecuting others, they are so concerned with appearing strong that they prey on the weak and the helpless. Mom, the people of Iraq were helpless and being crushed by a petty clone of Adolph Hitler, now they have hope where before they had none. Iraq is a mess, but it is a mess because freedom is messy, we had to fight a Civil War that nearly killed 500,000 of us just to make all men and women free. Iraq is already having to fight a soul searing conflict with itself to find itself. How could we abandon these people to this chaos? I will continue to support this cause until we win, we lose, or I am knocked out of commission. I cannot call myself a man and abandon the men, women and children of Iraq to brutal butchers, I've made my choice. You'll be in my heart everyday.

Dad, you are my hero, I don't know if I've ever told you that, but you are. You served in Vietnam and came back and made a life for yourself and your family. You did everything you could to provide for K and I, you worked extra hours to make sure we never went without. You never took sick time even though you were out in the elements everyday, you are the definition of what a man is, I hope one day I am half the man that you are. I think you understand what drives me and why I have to keep doing this job. When you were here in Hawaii to visit me and you told me you were proud of me was a moment I'll never forget. I can't let the people of Iraq suffer without doing something, I know I am only one person, but you were only one person and you did so many things in your life. I want to be like you, but I want to do so much more, I know I'm not going to "save the world", but everyday I can do a good deed, whether in Iraq or in Hawaii is a day that I feel like I have done my job as a man and an American. I know you understand!

Jan, my wife, my love, my life, this has got to be the hardest on you. This is the third time I have asked you to take a leap of faith and believe that no harm will come to me in Iraq. Three times I have left you and our puppies behind to pursue some quixotic belief that I can make the world a slightly better place. Three times I have left you behind to pay the bills, and manage the house and so many other things that no one should be forced to do by themselves. I have not been with you for 3 of our seven anniversary's because of my commitment to this. All I can say to you is thank you! I will always love you for your patience and your support of me and my ideals. I know that I make your life hard with these deployments, and for that I am sorry, I wish that it were easier to be away from you, but it's not. In fact, each deployment it gets harder and harder for me to say goodbye, I've lost friends now and had a few close calls myself, but I can't quit doing this. You know why, you more than anyone else understand why. You and I both believe it is our destiny to do whatever we can to make the world better. We are two tiny fish in the enormous universal ocean, but we both know one person can make a difference. When I am in Iraq I know you are in my heart at every moment and that our faith and love protects me. I firmly believe God has a plan for both of us, we are his instruments to do what we can to make the world better. So don't worry about me this time, I am doing what I was meant to do, and I have never been happier. So go and find my molly-molly and give her a scratch behind the ears.

For anyone that reads this; yes I am a 30 year old idealist, at 20 I was a cynic, but now I have a mission in life and a purpose. I found God, but I am far from a religious fanatic, I found a God that inspired me to do good deeds just for the sake of doing good. I can feel his prescence in everything around me, the sunset, the waves crashing on a Hawaiian beach and even in the evening breeze that is laced with plumeria. I would call myself a soldier of God, but not in any way that says he favors me or my cause. I am a soldier of our lord because I choose to serve the side of good, good is opening a door for a stranger, or helping your neighbor empty his trashcan, or going to Iraq because you want to help a people find their voice and feel what we feel when we think of our freedoms. The most fundamental question I ask myself every day is: If I have the chance to do good, even if there is a terrible price to pay, why wouldn't I? I wish more Americans would ask themselves this question, if you can do good, what on earth would stop you from following through?

Finally I just wanted to state one more time, Iraq is the whole bag of marbles, if our ideas win there, then militant Islam will wither on the vine and eventually die. If we lose in Iraq, the world will become a much darker place where the evils of the past such as slavery and holy wars will become the norm. I ask the people of America this question; We are the last hope for this planet to realize its potential, the Europeans are too weak to do it, what kind of world do we want for our children to live in? I made my choice, and now I leave to do what I believe is my duty. God bless my family, God bless our brave men and women in uniform, God bless all Americans and God bless America.

Caelestis

P.S. Love you my hummingbird


Today I leave for Iraq

funny thats what the crazy isalmofascist are supposed to think as well..let me guess and if your offed ..the instead of 7 virgins you go to a land of milk and honey
 
funny thats what the crazy isalmofascist are supposed to think as well..let me guess and if your offed ..the instead of 7 virgins you go to a land of milk and honey

Cp----:clap2:


Thank you for your service!!
 
Nice way to politicize a good thread. Take your liberal propaganda elsewhere.

the guy typed a novel on why he thinks the usa is doing the right thing. first, I want to make sure he knows my heart is with him. we just lost another guy from lvonia,mi. for what? I won't go into it on this guys thread, but I just love how you noe cons call my facts blabbering,rants,conspiracy theories. funny how in an age where lying is the norm, truth becomes provacative. gotto go to work so I can pay exxon. later.
 
Mom, I was the baby of the family and I know you still view me as that little boy that wouldn't eat his green beans and only wanted peanut butter. I am still that little boy inside, but I am so much more now, I am a husband and a veteran, and now a successful man with my own family. I chose to go back to Iraq this time, because I believe in a better world. At 30 I am more of an idealist now than I was at 20,

I heard it once said that "it is a shame when a young person is conservative as it is a shame when an older person is liberal". I do not think that age is what is being talked about in my quote but rather experience and maturity. It is amazing how military service and war creates maturity in a person. It opens the eyes of the spoiled pampered liberal child and creates the mature adult that is prepared to take on the challenges of life.
 
I heard it once said that "it is a shame when a young person is conservative as it is a shame when an older person is liberal". I do not think that age is what is being talked about in my quote but rather experience and maturity. It is amazing how military service and war creates maturity in a person. It opens the eyes of the spoiled pampered liberal child and creates the mature adult that is prepared to take on the challenges of life.


Yea, I mean post tramatic stress disorder that ruins some of these people's lives after fighting in a war of national liberation that has absolutely nothing to do with protecting America is a wonderful character building exercise.
 
Yea, I mean post tramatic stress disorder that ruins some of these people's lives after fighting in a war of national liberation that has absolutely nothing to do with protecting America is a wonderful character building exercise.

To start with there is a very small percentage of military personnel that have post tramatic stress disorder. The vast majority of war veterans come back, get jobs, and raise their families in a responsible manner. This country would be much better off if all had served in the military.
 
I heard it once said that "it is a shame when a young person is conservative as it is a shame when an older person is liberal". I do not think that age is what is being talked about in my quote but rather experience and maturity. It is amazing how military service and war creates maturity in a person. It opens the eyes of the spoiled pampered liberal child and creates the mature adult that is prepared to take on the challenges of life.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... kids are supposed to go die for Bush's war of choice... yuppers....

There are things worth fighting and dying for.... one shouldn't seek it for stupid, pointless reasons.
 
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... kids are supposed to go die for Bush's war of choice... yuppers....

There are things worth fighting and dying for.... one shouldn't seek it for stupid, pointless reasons.

Neither of us know if the Iraqi people are worth fighting for. The President and the vast majority of Congress felt we needed to go because they voted for it. MSNBC and politicans claim other. Talk to your returning Iraqi war veterans and ask them how much truth they have seen on the media about the war. It could open your eyes but only if you are willing to listen. I choose to believe them and the President and I guess you are free to believe who you wish.
 
Neither of us know if the Iraqi people are worth fighting for. The President and the vast majority of Congress felt we needed to go because they voted for it. MSNBC and politicans claim other. Talk to your returning Iraqi war veterans and ask them how much truth they have seen on the media about the war. It could open your eyes but only if you are willing to listen. I choose to believe them and the President and I guess you are free to believe who you wish.


*Yawn*... They voted for it because they got the cherry picked intel... d'uh! I'm really not certain why the right insists on taking your position. It simply makes you look really silly.

Why on earth would you believe this president? At some point it's "fool you twice, shame on you..."

or was it "won't get fooled again" as baby bush said?
 
To start with there is a very small percentage of military personnel that have post tramatic stress disorder. The vast majority of war veterans come back, get jobs, and raise their families in a responsible manner. This country would be much better off if all had served in the military.

Yea, compulsory military service has served our country well.

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*Yawn*... They voted for it because they got the cherry picked intel... d'uh! I'm really not certain why the right insists on taking your position. It simply makes you look really silly.

Why on earth would you believe this president? At some point it's "fool you twice, shame on you..."

or was it "won't get fooled again" as baby bush said?

Congress that served on the intel committee did recieve the same information as the President. They voted for it at a time that was still close to 9-11 so they were afraid to play politics. Time has passed and they have lost their fear again.
 

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