Zone1 To Those Who Have Ears - LET THEM HEAR! Knock and It Will Be Given To You - The REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

[kjw47]

There is an exception. If the Father named his son after his own name, then the Father might also be called YHVH(Jehovah). But the Jehovah most spoken of in scripture is Jesus. We never hear of what the Father's actual name is. We hear him called the Father, God, etc which are titles, but his actual name may also be YHVH(Jehovah) just as we see many on earth name their firstborn sons after their names.



John 5:43
43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Isaiah 44:6
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus is NEVER called Jehovah. YHVH( Jehovah) not LORD belongs at Isaiah 44:6-- By Gods will, by satans will=LORD is present in the altered translations that mislead.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus is NEVER called Jehovah. YHVH( Jehovah) not LORD belongs at Isaiah 44:6-- By Gods will, by satans will=LORD is present in the altered translations that mislead.

Exodus 3:14, "God said to Moses, I am that I am" John 8:58, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." Jesus is God.
It is what it is. You can claim mistranslation but so can I about you. God said to Moses “I am” and Jesus said “I am.” Clear to those of us who can read and aren’t narcissists.

 

[kjw47]

And, you simply ignore all the other scriptural references. Therefore, you are taking one scripture out of context with all the others you have been provided. That's narcissistic and ignorance at it's greatest. Look and read all the OT and NT scriptures Onefour1 provided you, including the famous verse of Exodus 3:14, "God said to Moses, I am that I am" John 8:58, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." Jesus is God. And to you, Jehovah is God. So, Jesus is also God. Nothing to interpret there. Just read. Watch the narcissist in you try to go back to Psalms 110.

Yes Jesus lived before Abraham, that is what Jesus said back to the pharisees.
In your darkness like all trinitarians using error filled versions of the bible failed to believe the Hebrew scholars who know the Hebrew language 1000 x better than any trinitarian says-that statement in the OT translates--i will be what i will be--NOT i am that i am. You are being mislead. Nothing to laugh about Cougarbear in your darkness.
They rolled on the ground laughing at Noah as well.

 

[kjw47]

Exodus 3:14, "God said to Moses, I am that I am" John 8:58, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." Jesus is God.
It is what it is. You can claim mistranslation but so can I about you. God said to Moses “I am” and Jesus said “I am.” Clear to those of us who can read and aren’t narcissists.

There is no i am that i am in the Hebrew written OT--i will be what i will be is the correct translating of that statement--I am that i am in trinity translations-TO MISLEAD.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes Jesus lived before Abraham, that is what Jesus said back to the pharisees.
In your darkness like all trinitarians using error filled versions of the bible failed to believe the Hebrew scholars who know the Hebrew language 1000 x better than any trinitarian says-that statement in the OT translates--i will be what i will be--NOT i am that i am. You are being mislead. Nothing to laugh about Cougarbear in your darkness.
They rolled on the ground laughing at Noah as well.

He said he is “I am.” God said to Moses he is “I am.” Whats wrong with JWs logic and reasoning powers? Did I am with Moses go from being God to a mere man Jesus? No. Good grief JW!

 

[Cougarbear]

There is no i am that i am in the Hebrew written OT--i will be what i will be is the correct translating of that statement--I am that i am in trinity translations-TO MISLEAD.

There is in English. You lose again. It was perfectly translated in both cases.

 

[onefour1]

Jesus is NEVER called Jehovah. YHVH( Jehovah) not LORD belongs at Isaiah 44:6-- By Gods will, by satans will=LORD is present in the altered translations that mislead.

Jesus is the Redeemer and is called YHVH in Isaiah 44:6.

Isaiah 44:6
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

see the translation at BibleHub

Together the Father and Son and Holy Ghost all form the godhead and are one God and there no other God beside them. Jesus is the First and the Last:

Revelation 2:8
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 1:10-18
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Colossians 2:6-9
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus is the Redeemer and is called YHVH in Isaiah 44:6.

Isaiah 44:6
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

see the translation at BibleHub

Together the Father and Son and Holy Ghost all form the godhead and are one God and there no other God beside them. Jesus is the First and the Last:

Revelation 2:8
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 1:10-18
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Colossians 2:6-9
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Facts are not approved by JWs.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus is the Redeemer and is called YHVH in Isaiah 44:6.

Isaiah 44:6
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

see the translation at BibleHub

Together the Father and Son and Holy Ghost all form the godhead and are one God and there no other God beside them. Jesus is the First and the Last:

Revelation 2:8
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 1:10-18
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Colossians 2:6-9
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Oh my! The “Godhead!” The Godhead is one in purpose.

 

[kjw47]

He said he is “I am.” God said to Moses he is “I am.” Whats wrong with JWs logic and reasoning powers? Did I am with Moses go from being God to a mere man Jesus? No. Good grief JW!

You must hate truth and love darkness and fear to be wrong.

 

[kjw47]

Jesus is the Redeemer and is called YHVH in Isaiah 44:6.

Isaiah 44:6
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

see the translation at BibleHub

Together the Father and Son and Holy Ghost all form the godhead and are one God and there no other God beside them. Jesus is the First and the Last:

Revelation 2:8
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 1:10-18
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Colossians 2:6-9
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Jesus is NEVER called LORD all capitols in the OT. When one looks up FACTS. They find Jerome removed YHVH( tetragramoton) from the OT and replaced it with GOD or LORD all capitols in his Latin Vulgate--he had no right, satans will caused it to mislead all using the altered translations. Its recorded history FACT. God put his name in his bible over 7000 places because God wants his name there.

 

[onefour1]

Jesus is NEVER called LORD all capitols in the OT. When one looks up FACTS. They find Jerome removed YHVH( tetragramoton) from the OT and replaced it with GOD or LORD all capitols in his Latin Vulgate--he had no right, satans will caused it to mislead all using the altered translations. Its recorded history FACT. God put his name in his bible over 7000 places because God wants his name there.

Read the Hebrew of Isaiah 44:6 in BibleHub. It shows the name Yahweh in place of "LORD". The Redeemer is Yahweh. Jesus Christ is the redeemer.

Isaiah 43:11
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 45:21
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

Isaiah 12:2
2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Isaiah 49:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

1 Corinthians 10:1–4
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Timothy 1:1
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

Isaiah 43:11
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Matthew 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Matthew 20:28
28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Luke 1:68
68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

Romans 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Titus 2:13–14
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Revelation 1:5
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

 

[Cougarbear]

Read the Hebrew of Isaiah 44:6 in BibleHub. It shows the name Yahweh in place of "LORD". The Redeemer is Yahweh. Jesus Christ is the redeemer.

Isaiah 43:11
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 45:21
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

Isaiah 12:2
2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Isaiah 49:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

1 Corinthians 10:1–4
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Timothy 1:1
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

Isaiah 43:11
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Matthew 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Matthew 20:28
28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Luke 1:68
68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

Romans 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Titus 2:13–14
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Revelation 1:5
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

There is no wiggle room for JWs. Their scholars have constantly double talked about their abilities to read ancient languages in context of the time.

 

[surada]

(A-4) Scriptural Evidence That Jesus Christ Is the God of the Old Testament​

Abinadi, testifying before the court of the wicked King Noah, bore witness that all the prophets from the earliest times had testified that God (Jehovah) would “come down among the children of men, and take upon him the form of man” (Mosiah 13:34; see also v. 33). Latter-day Saints, who have the benefit of additional scripture, are taught this truth very clearly. For example, the Doctrine and Covenants shows that Jesus Christ is Jehovah and the great “I Am” (see D&C 110:3–4; 29:1).

But many in the Christian world have not carefully considered the evidence found in the Bible, which clearly teaches that Jehovah is the premortal Jesus. The following scriptures are only a sampling of the biblical evidence. (Remember that LORD means that Jehovah is the Hebrew word used.)

	Old Testament	New Testament
Jesus (Jehovah) was the Creator of the world.	“Thus saith the LORD, … I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded” (Isaiah 45:11–12).	“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. … All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” (John 1:1, 3.)
Jehovah is the Savior.	“Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me” (Hosea 13:4).	“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord” (Luke 2:11).
Jehovah is the Redeemer.	“Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel” (Isaiah 43:14).	“Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law” (Galatians 3:13).
Jehovah will deliver men from death.	“I [Jehovah] will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction” (Hosea 13:14).	“But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” (1 Corinthians 15:20–22.)
The Jews will look upon Jehovah who was pierced.	“And I [Jehovah] will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn” (Zechariah 12:10).	“But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. … For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.” (John 19:34, 36–37.)
Jesus followed Israel in the wilderness during the Exodus.	“And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: he took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people” (Exodus 13:21–22).	“Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; and did all eat the same spiritual meat; and did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ” (1 Corinthians 10:1–4).
Jehovah is the husband or bridegroom.	“For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; the God of the whole earth shall he be called” (Isaiah 54:5).	“Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.” (Revelation 19:7–8.)
Jehovah is the first and the last (alpha and omega).	“Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God” (Isaiah 44:6).	“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty” (Revelation 1:8).

Hosea and Isaiah are about Israel not Jesus... No matter what the Mormons invented.

 

[kjw47]

Read the Hebrew of Isaiah 44:6 in BibleHub. It shows the name Yahweh in place of "LORD". The Redeemer is Yahweh. Jesus Christ is the redeemer.

Isaiah 43:11
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 45:21
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

Isaiah 12:2
2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Isaiah 49:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

1 Corinthians 10:1–4
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Timothy 1:1
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

Isaiah 43:11
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Matthew 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Matthew 20:28
28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Luke 1:68
68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

Romans 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Titus 2:13–14
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Revelation 1:5
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Jesus became redeemer and savior upon completion of the ransom sacrifice. By doing Jehovah's will that occurred, making Jehovah the redeemer and savior first. Jehovah has always been the redeemer and savior throughout.
Titus 2:13--2 beings there=one is God one is Jesus, and is a separator.

 

[onefour1]

Jesus became redeemer and savior upon completion of the ransom sacrifice. By doing Jehovah's will that occurred, making Jehovah the redeemer and savior first. Jehovah has always been the redeemer and savior throughout.
Titus 2:13--2 beings there=one is God one is Jesus, and is a separator.

Jesus was called to be the redeemer and savior of the world from before the foundation of the world.

1 Peter 1:19-20
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Revelation 13:8
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Jesus is the Christ, the redeemer and savior from the foundation of the world. He is the Redeemer and Savior mentioned of in the Old Testament.

 

[Cougarbear]

Hosea and Isaiah are about Israel not Jesus... No matter what the Mormons invented.

Are you really this obtuse? Jesus Christ is the redeemer of Israel. Isaiah says Jehovah is the redeemer. Simple logic says Jesus is Jehovah.

 

[kjw47]

Jesus was called to be the redeemer and savior of the world from before the foundation of the world.

1 Peter 1:19-20
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Revelation 13:8
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Jesus is the Christ, the redeemer and savior from the foundation of the world. He is the Redeemer and Savior mentioned of in the Old Testament.

Jesus is not Jehovah. Jehovah is the only true God. You see if your translations weren't altered by satans will you would know this fact=Isaiah 44:6--I am YHVH(Jehovah) besides ME( not we) there is no God. But your altered translations has GOD or LORD there. Everyone who checked into reality knows 100% recorded history = Jerome removed the tetragramoton in the OT over 6700 spots and replaced it with titles=GOD or LORD--YHVH belongs at every one of those spots by Gods will. Whose will are you giving support to on that matter? God or satan whose will had Gods name removed to mislead. All creation are witnessing ones choices.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus is not Jehovah. Jehovah is the only true God. You see if your translations weren't altered by satans will you would know this fact=Isaiah 44:6--I am YHVH(Jehovah) besides ME( not we) there is no God. But your altered translations has GOD or LORD there. Everyone who checked into reality knows 100% recorded history = Jerome removed the tetragramoton in the OT over 6700 spots and replaced it with titles=GOD or LORD--YHVH belongs at every one of those spots by Gods will. Whose will are you giving support to on that matter? God or satan whose will had Gods name removed to mislead. All creation are witnessing ones choices.

Are you really this obtuse? Jesus Christ is the redeemer of Israel. Isaiah says Jehovah is the redeemer. Simple logic says Jesus is Jehovah.
Colossians 2:9, “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
There’s a GODHEAD! Wake up.

 

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Jesus is not Jehovah. Jehovah is the only true God. You see if your translations weren't altered by satans will you would know this fact=Isaiah 44:6--I am YHVH(Jehovah) besides ME( not we) there is no God. But your altered translations has GOD or LORD there. Everyone who checked into reality knows 100% recorded history = Jerome removed the tetragramoton in the OT over 6700 spots and replaced it with titles=GOD or LORD--YHVH belongs at every one of those spots by Gods will. Whose will are you giving support to on that matter? God or satan whose will had Gods name removed to mislead. All creation are witnessing ones choices.

Yes, the only true God consists of three beings known as the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. These three are perfectly united in all they do as the one true God. The Father called Jesus to be the Redeemer and Savior before the foundation of the world and the God who was the God of the Old Testament who appeared before Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, etc. Jesus speaks for and in behalf of God the Father because they are united in all things. Yes, YHWH was replaced by LORD. There is no argument about that. What you don't understand is that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are able to speak on behalf of one another because they are united. Jesus and the Father have been referred to as YHWH because they are both the one true God. They are God. They are not the same being or person but they are united in all they say and do as the one true God. Jesus is the Savior and Redeemer and the only one who died for the sins of the world. But yes, it was the will of the Father that He become the Savior and Jesus volunteered for the task. The oneness of God is not that God is a single being but that they are united as one. Up until the time of John, scripture tells us that no man had seen the Father (see John 1:18). But the Old Testament tells us that God was seen by several prophets (see Exodus 6:3, Genesis 32:30, Exodus 33:11, Exodus 24:9-11). It was YHWH or God the Son whom they saw and spoke to.

1 Corinthians 10:1–4
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

The atoning sacrifice that Christ did was valid from the foundation of the world even though it was performed in the meridian of time and He was all mankind's Savior and Redeemer. It is through Jesus Christ that all mankind will resurrect from the dead and become immortal and live forever and ever. It is through God the Son that we can receive a forgiveness of sin and have the opportunity to progress to live again with God our Eternal Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. The Father is God. The Son is God. And the Holy Ghost is God. All three represent the one true God being united as one in all that they do.