Zone1 To Those Who Have Ears - LET THEM HEAR! Knock and It Will Be Given To You - The REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

[kjw47]

Colossians 2:9, “9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”

That doesn't say he is God-- You are twisting it. Because if he were God bodily, then why did God have to do all the powerful works through Jesus? Acts 2:22)

 

[kjw47]

... never has honor, glory or the such given to it? I would consider it an honor and glory to be named as one of the three in heaven to be a witness of the truth and who bears record of it. Also to be considered to be one with the Father and Son says quite alot about the station of the Holy Ghost.

1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Matthew 28:19
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

It would also be quite the honor to be named one of the three in heaven that all mankind are baptized in the name of, ie The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost! To be one with these two and to be baptized along side their names is giving the Holy Ghost great honor an glory. As the third member of the godhead, He is one with the Father and the Son. He is the only member of the godhead that if you blaspheme his name, you will not receive forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come. His witness is more powerful than the spoken word. He has the ability to touch your very soul.

I just told you-100% proof-the spirit, water and blood are the 3 witness bearers. Its proven fact.

 

[Cougarbear]

all of the hundreds of the house divided that will not stand says that.

The Jehovah Witness church is not part of the House of God.

 

[Cougarbear]

That doesn't say he is God-- You are twisting it. Because if he were God bodily, then why did God have to do all the powerful works through Jesus? Acts 2:22)

Nice try. You stated specifically that the word Godhead was not anywhere in the Bible. Then you use the word. Hypocrite.

 

[kjw47]

Nice try. You stated specifically that the word Godhead was not anywhere in the Bible. Then you use the word. Hypocrite.

What are you talking about?

 

[Cougarbear]

What are you talking about?

You don’t even know what you have said

 

[surada]

Yeshayahu (Isaiah): Chapter 44

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In Isaiah God is the redeemer of his servant Israel.

44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish; 44:26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof: 44:27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers: 44:28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

 

[surada]

That doesn't say he is God-- You are twisting it. Because if he were God bodily, then why did God have to do all the powerful works through Jesus? Acts 2:22)

Isaiah 49:3 explicitly names the servant as Israel: “And [God] said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified” (NRSV).

 

[surada]

According to Isaiah 45:1, Cyrus is YHWH's anointed, his Messiah: Thus says YHWH to his anointed, to Cyrus whom I took by his right hand.

Cyrus the Great was the founder of the Achaemenid Empire and king of Persia from 559 to 530 BC.

Isaiah 49:3 explicitly names the servant as Israel: “And [God] said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified” (NRSV).

 

[Ace Nova]

Sorry to break it to you, but you haven’t been called to anything and do not have the keys of the kingdom.

I do not "claim to be called" any more than anyone else who has faith and studies the Bible. What does the phrase, "Keys to the Kingdom" mean to you?

 

[Ace Nova]

So did he come and coffee with you as he gave you this revelation?

I likely drank coffee at some points when studying/thinking/praying/meditating over certain topics within the Bible - so in that sense, yes.

This is my interpretation of certain Bible topics - through faith, prayer and studying the Bible over the course of 40+ years.

 

[Ace Nova]

In the Ot only YHVH(Jehovah) was savior. Jesus became savior upon completing the ransom sacrifice=NT.

What does, "Completing the ransom sacrifice"mean to you?

 

[surada]

Psalm 110:1 quoted at Matt 22:44= The utterance of YHVH to my Lord( Jesus) is sit at MY right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. One cannot sit at their own right hand-thus Jesus is not YHVH.

Many of the psalms are much older Canaanite poetry.

 

[surada]

kjw47
Isaiah 49:3 explicitly names the servant as Israel: “And [God] said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified” (NRSV).

 

[Cougarbear]

I do not "claim to be called" any more than anyone else who has faith and studies the Bible. What does the phrase, "Keys to the Kingdom" mean to you?

Peter was given the keys to the power of God, the Priesthood to do God’s work on earth with power and authority. The Apostles held them as well. After John was gone, no one held that authority anymore. As Paul wrote there would be an apostasy. Oh, there were leaders of various sects that claimed to continue to hold the Priesthood authority of Melchizedek but they did not. And changed the order of Melchizedek to strange orders like Jesuits and others. It’s back but you would reject it because you think a book holds that authority. LOL. A book. An idol worshipper. Oh, there is doctrine in it but it is just a book.

 

[luiza]

Good thread to skim and learn more about modern mental sicknesses in today's chaotic times.

And I feel sure that leaving these unbalanced indivduals to continually posture and preen helps prevent them venturing out into the public world , probably to commit more grievous harms .

Better a private mental mutant than a serious public offender .

So let's keep them smiling -- let them dream of their childish heaven and our imagined passage to eternal punishment .
Saves having to keep them under lock and key when they can manage it themselves . Mostly .

And the occasional over noisy nuisance can be sectioned and discarded as failed merchandise .

All part of Keeping the planet Clean and Tidy .

 

[Ace Nova]

Peter was given the keys to the power of God, the Priesthood to do God’s work on earth with power and authority. The Apostles held them as well. After John was gone, no one held that authority anymore. As Paul wrote there would be an apostasy. Oh, there were leaders of various sects that claimed to continue to hold the Priesthood authority of Melchizedek but they did not. And changed the order of Melchizedek to strange orders like Jesuits and others. It’s back but you would reject it because you think a book holds that authority. LOL. A book. An idol worshipper. Oh, there is doctrine in it but it is just a book.

Quite the contrary - my understanding comes from the entirety of the world we live in - and just like the world we live in, "It's a work in progress".

What "book" are you referring to? The Book Of Revelation or the Seventy-Two Books of the Bible?

 

[Ace Nova]

Good thread to skim and learn more about modern mental sicknesses in today's chaotic times.

And I feel sure that leaving these unbalanced indivduals to continually posture and preen helps prevent them venturing out into the public world , probably to commit more grievous harms .

Better a private mental mutant than a serious public offender .

So let's keep them smiling -- let them dream of their childish heaven and our imagined passage to eternal punishment .
Saves having to keep them under lock and key when they can manage it themselves . Mostly .

And the occasional over noisy nuisance can be sectioned and discarded as failed merchandise .

All part of Keeping the planet Clean and Tidy .

Not sure who you are referring to but I certainly don't think that way. Who am I to judge someone on what happens to them when they pass on? I respect all good - willed religions, creeds, cultures, etc.

When it comes to speaking of what I personally believe (my interpretation of faith, spirituality, religions, etc) - on a religious section of a message board - I will discuss it, defend it and welcome further discussion on it. There are times I may have been overly direct or abrasive to some (Usually in response to an offensive and/or abrasive comment) - but that comes from my zeal of the subject and truly isn't meant to offend anyone.

As far as having "mental sickness" in today's "chaotic times" -"Mental sickness" isn't something anyone would want to have but if someone is dealing with mental health, hopefully they have a strong support system and get the treatment/help they need. I feel blessed that I haven't had to deal with any major mental health issue throughout my lifetime - other than ADHD at times And even that I've been able to manage and I'm better off for it. (As my friend likes to say, "It's not ADHD - you're just multitasking in your mind." )

 

[Cougarbear]

Quite the contrary - my understanding comes from the entirety of the world we live in - and just like the world we live in, "It's a work in progress".

What "book" are you referring to? The Book Of Revelation or the Seventy-Two Books of the Bible?

You said this: "
will begin by stating this is the ultimate truth of scripture as I understand it - I am humbled and grateful that through forty-five years of passionate but yet turbulent faith - God has chosen me - an undeserving but yet "innocent in Spirit" child - saved by The Grace of God - has awarded me the keys to his Kingdom - through the teachings of Jesus Christ and by his sacrifice for many - which fulfilled the Law - has now concluded the teachings of scripture By Bringing The Revelation of Jesus Christ To Fulfillment."

I said you have not been awarded the keys to his Kingdom. Now, you are claiming you aren't stating your understanding from the Bible after stating you were. Are you a Democrat? They have this thing about hypocrisy too. Anyway, if you don't base your logic and reasoning from a sound foundation, then your thoughts are weak and will fall down being definitely with hypocrisy. Bible isn't all of God's words to mankind through men with the priesthood after the order of Melchizedek. That's what most Christians think and because of this, that's why there are 40,000 different sects preaching different doctrines.

 

[Cougarbear]

Many of the psalms are much older Canaanite poetry.

Stolen from Moses teachings and others. You are full of nonsense.