To all you that hate Trump and tariffs especially on China... read on!

[d0gbreath]

He absolutely is...We have the opportunity to fix this now, and it is beyond confusing why you as an American wouldn't want to make more products we use here?

I think that that would be really cool. Bear in mind that we've only had a service industry (blame whoever you want) for the last 40 years. 40 years j. We don't have factories, nor factory workers anymore. It would take 40 years (20 if we move at light speed) to turn that around.

 

[j-mac]

I think that that would be really cool. Bear in mind that we've only had a service industry (blame whoever you want) for the last 40 years. 40 years j. We don't have factories, nor factory workers anymore. It would take 40 years (20 if we move at light speed) to turn that around.

So, that (if true) means what? We shouldn’t try?

 

[d0gbreath]

So, that (if true) means what? We shouldn’t try?

I'll be heading to CA to pick grapes; you try.

 

[j-mac]

I'll be heading to CA to pick grapes; you try.

sigh I should have known better than to try and have a sensible conversation with you.

 

[The Republicans]

Let me try to put it in a different way

The democrats think “fair trade” is when other countries don’t obey their agreements and we’re not allowed to negotiate with them because they don’t want us to have fair trading rights

 

[d0gbreath]

sigh I should have known better than to try and have a sensible conversation with you.

I don't have 20 years left, young man.

 

[j-mac]

I don't have 20 years left, young man.

Don't know your age, but whether you do or not, doesn't matter does it?

I mean, I assume you have grown kids, or even grandchildren, that certainly do. Don't you want to leave something better for them? Or is it just screw em, and let them figure it out?

 

[d0gbreath]

Don't know your age, but whether you do or not, doesn't matter does it?

I mean, I assume you have grown kids, or even grandchildren, that certainly do. Don't you want to leave something better for them? Or is it just screw em, and let them figure it out?

They don't exist, so I'll pray for yours to have factory widget maker jobs.

 

[debbiedowner]

Well Debbie, if you will allow me to address each of Forbes road blocks individually,

1. Cost Of Labor And Production

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it liberal Democrats that were screaming "Livable wage" for like the past 15 years, or longer? Now, you use it a barrier to make us dependent on one of this nations enemies for things like life saving drugs?
Yet, you won't see the failure in that.

2. Supply Chain Complexity

We can solve supply chain by simply becoming aggressive in what we need, and stop letting these other countries walk all over us...And, what we lack, we need to find here, and we can.

3. Skilled Labor Shortage

That metric more than anything I can think of is a failure of Education that has been dominated by Democrats, and in control of Democrats for 50 years or longer....The kids today are smart, and we are letting them graduate unable to do math or read....Who's fault is that?

4. Capital Investment And Infrastructure

Businesses are willing to invest if they see a stable future in doing so...Trump is giving that incentive...

5. Economic And Trade Policies

Why would we continue the same policies that have allowed the rest of the world to eat our lunch since the 70s? That's just stupid and weak.

6. Technological Advancements And Automation

America has, until recently been leaders in innovation, and advancement in a broad range of areas...Why has that changed? I think we have to look at the politicization of our education system....We need to get back to basics, and bring back the trades into our education system in the schools again...

Now, will this be an overnight change? no. But is it necessary? absolutely.

You can address anything you want the fact is it isn't going to happen.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So, that (if true) means what? We shouldn’t try?

... because it would put us four decades behind the goal.

Clark Howard explained it really well today. Go look for it since your position requires you to disbelieve me.

 

[j-mac]

They don't exist, so I'll pray for yours to have factory widget maker jobs.

Pretty insulting…is that where you’re going?

 

[j-mac]

You can address anything you want the fact is it isn't going to happen.

Ya know, I put some thought into that reply, and gave you the respect of reading your article. The least you could do is read my reply, and have a conversation about it…unless you never intended to in the first place, and in that case I’ll wish you a good day and know in the future you’re not worth responding to.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, j-mac, this Trumpian mistake is horrible from the get go.

 

[j-mac]

No, j-mac, this Trumpian mistake is horrible from the get go.

What would be your ideas to fix the massive trade imbalances we are seeing here?

 

[j-mac]

They don't exist, so I'll pray for yours to have factory widget maker jobs.

So, you have no kids, so screw the future, is that right?

 

[Flopper]

China uses according to this source: List of Goods Produced by Child Labor or Forced Labor

List of Goods Produced by Child Labor or Forced Labor
The Bureau of International Labor Affairs (ILAB) maintains a list of goods and their source countries which it has reason to believe are produced by child labor or forced labor in violation of international standards, as required under the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (TVPRA) of 2005 and subsequent reauthorizations. The List of Goods Produced by Child Labor or Forced Labor comprises 204 goods from 82 countries and areas, as of September 5, 2024.
Aluminum, car parts, bricks, caustic soda cotton,Electrolytic Copper Products,Electronics, Fish, garments, garments cotton, gloves, hair products Lithium-ion batteries, Metallurgical Grade Silicon, Photovoltaic Ingots, Photovoltaic Wafers
Adults are forced to produce polysilicon for solar panels in China
polyvinyl chloride (PVC), a plastic used in a wide range of applications such as flooring, construction materials, pipes, and vinyl siding.
ILAB has reason to believe that multiple solar products produced in China are made with an input using forced labor,
These products include photovoltaic ingots and wafers (China), solar cells (China), and solar modules (China).
ILAB has reason to believe that cotton thread/ yarn, cotton textiles, and cotton garments produced in China are made with an input produced with forced labor—

So to you pious, haters of Trump, anti-fossil fuels, solar panel, wind turbine lovers... are you also approving of China's use of forced labor and kids?
What hypocrites you are!

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/03/business/trumps-reciprocal-tariffs-countries-list-dg/index.htm

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If you think Trump gives two hoots about China's use of child labor, you would be wrong. Trump wants to open up China to American businesses so they can take advantage of China's low cost labor, partially due to the use of children age 10 to 15.

 

[d0gbreath]

Pretty insulting…is that where you’re going?

I'm going back to the couple of times that I did factory work. Picking crops is way better.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So, you have no kids, so screw the future, is that right?

Only Trump is screwing up the future.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I'm going back to the couple of times that I did factory work. Picking crops is way better.

I did not like either as a youngster.

 

[d0gbreath]

So, you have no kids, so screw the future, is that right?

More like I'm not really concerned.