Thoughts on college debt forgiveness.

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A lot of older folks have no footprint on Twitter and Facebook. They may even still read broadsheet newspapers that are dying on the vine due to the increasingly prohibitive expense of production costs coupled with dwindling subscriptions. Old habits die hard and this may be the only thing keeping actual print publications afloat in a world where younger generations have attention spans measured in nanoseconds.

This is not to say that seniors today are being left behind and jettisoned by the grinding approach of electronic and synchronous orbiting technology. There is a harsh reality afoot in this world today and that is that the average high school graduate of 60 years ago probably has higher intelligence and better reading and writing skills than many people today running around with graduate degrees.

Here is wisdom: There is only one thing in this world worse than no education and that is bad education. The kids today are no different than we were, but they are victimized by these tin horn liberal arts colleges that instead of preparing them for useful citizenship, indebts them with worthless skills. Education is not what it once was. It abuses its victims with a bill of goods, imbues them with a cultish self-hatred and sends them out into the world to destroy the foundations of civilized society.

Ask yourself if you were young and realized you would never attain the lifestyle of your parents and grandparents due to globalization enriching political leadership by swindling you of a dignified living. Ask yourself if you would be out there burning down someone’s business or tearing down statues at the bidding of educators deflecting responsibility away from themselves as charlatans while colleges get richer.

It is unfortunate that millions of people in America have been taken in by the scam of a college education and a subterfuge is at hand in the form of debt forgiveness on the backs of taxpayers. Ask yourself if you think the government is going to step forward and pay for your mortgage, car lease or gambling debts. You know the answer to that.

We will always need higher education for doctors, engineers, and specialists we depend on. Lawyers, not so much. We need to close most of America’s colleges and hand them the bill for ripping off the kids. We could start right here in the home city.

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I could get behind college debt forgiveness if they cancel all the fucking programs that created the problem in the first place. But that's got to happen first. Merely treating the symptoms will only perpetuate the problem.
 

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I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
These social Darwinist blue-collar morons will ensure China's dominance in the years to come.
 

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The only people who desire it are those in-debt and dishonest. Again the left entertains the lowest common denominator, because it's ALWAYS their hope to normalize the lowest common denominator.

The dumber, weaker and more pathetic a public is the easier they are to control, that's front and center the communist's playbook.
I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
Yet you're too foolish to apply a simple dose of thought to see your methods only serve to dumb us down. More than that you fail to recognize who pays for it, which is the middle class PROGS are eliminating. ILMAO you think the rich are going to pay for anything, how fucking naïve.

And I know you adore victim roles, poor Sally with her History degree and 100K debt because she wanted to go to Stanford. PROGS LOVE VICTIM ROLES, we're all victims, BLM, save us from ourselves because we're just pathetic.

Like all PROGS you desire the govt. take care of us and you're unable to consider the consequences. If anything it's an admission of weakness.
 
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I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
These social Darwinist blue-collar morons will ensure China's dominance in the years to come.
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I'm sorry you took so many college loans out so you could afford to drink beer and eat sushi while earning a worthless degree that has no real life applications now pay for your mistake.

I know us blue collars are just DEPLORABLE...

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
 

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A lot of older folks have no footprint on Twitter and Facebook. They may even still read broadsheet newspapers that are dying on the vine due to the increasingly prohibitive expense of production costs coupled with dwindling subscriptions. Old habits die hard and this may be the only thing keeping actual print publications afloat in a world where younger generations have attention spans measured in nanoseconds.

This is not to say that seniors today are being left behind and jettisoned by the grinding approach of electronic and synchronous orbiting technology. There is a harsh reality afoot in this world today and that is that the average high school graduate of 60 years ago probably has higher intelligence and better reading and writing skills than many people today running around with graduate degrees.

Here is wisdom: There is only one thing in this world worse than no education and that is bad education. The kids today are no different than we were, but they are victimized by these tin horn liberal arts colleges that instead of preparing them for useful citizenship, indebts them with worthless skills. Education is not what it once was. It abuses its victims with a bill of goods, imbues them with a cultish self-hatred and sends them out into the world to destroy the foundations of civilized society.

Ask yourself if you were young and realized you would never attain the lifestyle of your parents and grandparents due to globalization enriching political leadership by swindling you of a dignified living. Ask yourself if you would be out there burning down someone’s business or tearing down statues at the bidding of educators deflecting responsibility away from themselves as charlatans while colleges get richer.

It is unfortunate that millions of people in America have been taken in by the scam of a college education and a subterfuge is at hand in the form of debt forgiveness on the backs of taxpayers. Ask yourself if you think the government is going to step forward and pay for your mortgage, car lease or gambling debts. You know the answer to that.

We will always need higher education for doctors, engineers, and specialists we depend on. Lawyers, not so much. We need to close most of America’s colleges and hand them the bill for ripping off the kids. We could start right here in the home city.

Fast Facts: Endowments (73) (ed.gov)

It’s not on the backs of taxpayers. That’s a huge misnomer. They just print it. That’s what they do these days and just add it to the national debt. A debt approaching 30 trillion, which won’t ever be paid.
 

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A lot of older folks have no footprint on Twitter and Facebook. They may even still read broadsheet newspapers that are dying on the vine due to the increasingly prohibitive expense of production costs coupled with dwindling subscriptions. Old habits die hard and this may be the only thing keeping actual print publications afloat in a world where younger generations have attention spans measured in nanoseconds.

This is not to say that seniors today are being left behind and jettisoned by the grinding approach of electronic and synchronous orbiting technology. There is a harsh reality afoot in this world today and that is that the average high school graduate of 60 years ago probably has higher intelligence and better reading and writing skills than many people today running around with graduate degrees.

Here is wisdom: There is only one thing in this world worse than no education and that is bad education. The kids today are no different than we were, but they are victimized by these tin horn liberal arts colleges that instead of preparing them for useful citizenship, indebts them with worthless skills. Education is not what it once was. It abuses its victims with a bill of goods, imbues them with a cultish self-hatred and sends them out into the world to destroy the foundations of civilized society.

Ask yourself if you were young and realized you would never attain the lifestyle of your parents and grandparents due to globalization enriching political leadership by swindling you of a dignified living. Ask yourself if you would be out there burning down someone’s business or tearing down statues at the bidding of educators deflecting responsibility away from themselves as charlatans while colleges get richer.

It is unfortunate that millions of people in America have been taken in by the scam of a college education and a subterfuge is at hand in the form of debt forgiveness on the backs of taxpayers. Ask yourself if you think the government is going to step forward and pay for your mortgage, car lease or gambling debts. You know the answer to that.

We will always need higher education for doctors, engineers, and specialists we depend on. Lawyers, not so much. We need to close most of America’s colleges and hand them the bill for ripping off the kids. We could start right here in the home city.

Excellent post, Ray. In this regard I consider myself fortunate while terrified for my younger relatives. Myself I used a combination of the Army College Fund and G.I. Bill to attend a decent school off post in the mid-90's, where I majored in civil engineering. That university was at the time a highly conservative central Texas school where mere mention of Hegelian Dialectic would have cost the utterer his or her tongue. I never used that degree in its intended professional capacity, although it both aided me with rapid promotion through the Army ranks and opened a number of career doors for me along the way.

Years later I went back to school—also on Uncle Sam's dime—and took an undergraduate degree in clinical psychology, at a much more liberal school. Recently I completed a graduate degree in political psychology at an extremely liberal university in Baltimore; I not only felt like a dinosaur but was often referred to as one by the cool kids who attended classes with me. Happily I am free of college debt but only due to the fact that I spent most of my adult life to date in the US Army.

Which brings me to my eighteen year-old niece who began a nursing program at Penn State a few months back. While I had encouraged her to go Coast Guard at least as means to pay for her education, she wouldn't hear of it, and so now she is already strapped with tens of thousands in student loan debt—some of which my wife and I will be paying off for her, although she doesn't really deserve it. But, we love her—so what else can we do?

The level of psycho-circus madness my niece is dealing with on a daily basis at university must be staggering. Fellow students quarantined in their dorm rooms, remote electronic classes even though she lives on campus. Critical Race Theory, postmodernism primers, racial segregation (she's half Egyptian), historical revisionism—I can't imagine dealing with what she faces. The true plot of her horror story is the debt to knowledge ration she will carry on her shoulders for the rest of her days.
 

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Close the NSA. There's a trillion a year.
NASA's budget in fiscal year (FY) 2020 is $22.629 billion.
That is the 'official' budget, which doesn't include contractors, subcontractors and 'dark pentagon money' of which , not even the auditors can keep track of. The actual total cost of the US defense spending - including military, DHS, CIA, NSA and other affiliates is unknown by even Congress.

It's basically a blank check for around $2 trillion a year.


 

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A lot of older folks have no footprint on Twitter and Facebook. They may even still read broadsheet newspapers that are dying on the vine due to the increasingly prohibitive expense of production costs coupled with dwindling subscriptions. Old habits die hard and this may be the only thing keeping actual print publications afloat in a world where younger generations have attention spans measured in nanoseconds.

This is not to say that seniors today are being left behind and jettisoned by the grinding approach of electronic and synchronous orbiting technology. There is a harsh reality afoot in this world today and that is that the average high school graduate of 60 years ago probably has higher intelligence and better reading and writing skills than many people today running around with graduate degrees.

Here is wisdom: There is only one thing in this world worse than no education and that is bad education. The kids today are no different than we were, but they are victimized by these tin horn liberal arts colleges that instead of preparing them for useful citizenship, indebts them with worthless skills. Education is not what it once was. It abuses its victims with a bill of goods, imbues them with a cultish self-hatred and sends them out into the world to destroy the foundations of civilized society.

Ask yourself if you were young and realized you would never attain the lifestyle of your parents and grandparents due to globalization enriching political leadership by swindling you of a dignified living. Ask yourself if you would be out there burning down someone’s business or tearing down statues at the bidding of educators deflecting responsibility away from themselves as charlatans while colleges get richer.

It is unfortunate that millions of people in America have been taken in by the scam of a college education and a subterfuge is at hand in the form of debt forgiveness on the backs of taxpayers. Ask yourself if you think the government is going to step forward and pay for your mortgage, car lease or gambling debts. You know the answer to that.

We will always need higher education for doctors, engineers, and specialists we depend on. Lawyers, not so much. We need to close most of America’s colleges and hand them the bill for ripping off the kids. We could start right here in the home city.

Excellent post, Ray. In this regard I consider myself fortunate while terrified for my younger relatives. Myself I used a combination of the Army College Fund and G.I. Bill to attend a decent school off post in the mid-90's, where I majored in civil engineering. That university was at the time a highly conservative central Texas school where mere mention of Hegelian Dialectic would have cost the utterer his or her tongue. I never used that degree in its intended professional capacity, although it both aided me with rapid promotion through the Army ranks and opened a number of career doors for me along the way.

Years later I went back to school—also on Uncle Sam's dime—and took an undergraduate degree in clinical psychology, at a much more liberal school. Recently I completed a graduate degree in political psychology at an extremely liberal university in Baltimore; I not only felt like a dinosaur but was often referred to as one by the cool kids who attended classes with me. Happily I am free of college debt but only due to the fact that I spent most of my adult life to date in the US Army.

Which brings me to my eighteen year-old niece who began a nursing program at Penn State a few months back. While I had encouraged her to go Coast Guard at least as means to pay for her education, she wouldn't hear of it, and so now she is already strapped with tens of thousands in student loan debt—some of which my wife and I will be paying off for her, although she doesn't really deserve it. But, we love her—so what else can we do?

The level of psycho-circus madness my niece is dealing with on a daily basis at university must be staggering. Fellow students quarantined in their dorm rooms, remote electronic classes even though she lives on campus. Critical Race Theory, postmodernism primers, racial segregation (she's half Egyptian), historical revisionism—I can't imagine dealing with what she faces. The true plot of her horror story is the debt to knowledge ration she will carry on her shoulders for the rest of her days.
But really, the only reason she's in debt 10s of thousands is she desired to go to an expensive school with football, excitement etc. No slight to your daughter mind you, she's trying to do the right things. My daughter is in a nursing program at the cost of 1K a semester. Sure she received some benefit of scholarship and it's not Penn State, but it's the same degree & field.

My son soon graduates with a Journalism degree, cost is barely a factor. Again not a big fancy school, but thanks to COVID it doesn't matter anyway.

Thanks for your service, you guys EARN an education on the public's dime.
 

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I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
These social Darwinist blue-collar morons will ensure China's dominance in the years to come.
View attachment 424638

I'm sorry you took so many college loans out so you could afford to drink beer and eat sushi while earning a worthless degree that has no real life applications now pay for your mistake.

I know us blue collars are just DEPLORABLE...

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
I have a scholarship because I am worth more than you could ever hope to be. I won't pay a dime for my education and if your children are lucky they might work for me someday.
 

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Take half a year's worth of what we spend on the military and forgive it all.
Right, because why should the people who protect and defend our country have anything when the worthless dregs do not??
 

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A lot of older folks have no footprint on Twitter and Facebook. They may even still read broadsheet newspapers that are dying on the vine due to the increasingly prohibitive expense of production costs coupled with dwindling subscriptions. Old habits die hard and this may be the only thing keeping actual print publications afloat in a world where younger generations have attention spans measured in nanoseconds.

This is not to say that seniors today are being left behind and jettisoned by the grinding approach of electronic and synchronous orbiting technology. There is a harsh reality afoot in this world today and that is that the average high school graduate of 60 years ago probably has higher intelligence and better reading and writing skills than many people today running around with graduate degrees.

Here is wisdom: There is only one thing in this world worse than no education and that is bad education. The kids today are no different than we were, but they are victimized by these tin horn liberal arts colleges that instead of preparing them for useful citizenship, indebts them with worthless skills. Education is not what it once was. It abuses its victims with a bill of goods, imbues them with a cultish self-hatred and sends them out into the world to destroy the foundations of civilized society.

Ask yourself if you were young and realized you would never attain the lifestyle of your parents and grandparents due to globalization enriching political leadership by swindling you of a dignified living. Ask yourself if you would be out there burning down someone’s business or tearing down statues at the bidding of educators deflecting responsibility away from themselves as charlatans while colleges get richer.

It is unfortunate that millions of people in America have been taken in by the scam of a college education and a subterfuge is at hand in the form of debt forgiveness on the backs of taxpayers. Ask yourself if you think the government is going to step forward and pay for your mortgage, car lease or gambling debts. You know the answer to that.

We will always need higher education for doctors, engineers, and specialists we depend on. Lawyers, not so much. We need to close most of America’s colleges and hand them the bill for ripping off the kids. We could start right here in the home city.

Excellent post, Ray. In this regard I consider myself fortunate while terrified for my younger relatives. Myself I used a combination of the Army College Fund and G.I. Bill to attend a decent school off post in the mid-90's, where I majored in civil engineering. That university was at the time a highly conservative central Texas school where mere mention of Hegelian Dialectic would have cost the utterer his or her tongue. I never used that degree in its intended professional capacity, although it both aided me with rapid promotion through the Army ranks and opened a number of career doors for me along the way.

Years later I went back to school—also on Uncle Sam's dime—and took an undergraduate degree in clinical psychology, at a much more liberal school. Recently I completed a graduate degree in political psychology at an extremely liberal university in Baltimore; I not only felt like a dinosaur but was often referred to as one by the cool kids who attended classes with me. Happily I am free of college debt but only due to the fact that I spent most of my adult life to date in the US Army.

Which brings me to my eighteen year-old niece who began a nursing program at Penn State a few months back. While I had encouraged her to go Coast Guard at least as means to pay for her education, she wouldn't hear of it, and so now she is already strapped with tens of thousands in student loan debt—some of which my wife and I will be paying off for her, although she doesn't really deserve it. But, we love her—so what else can we do?

The level of psycho-circus madness my niece is dealing with on a daily basis at university must be staggering. Fellow students quarantined in their dorm rooms, remote electronic classes even though she lives on campus. Critical Race Theory, postmodernism primers, racial segregation (she's half Egyptian), historical revisionism—I can't imagine dealing with what she faces. The true plot of her horror story is the debt to knowledge ration she will carry on her shoulders for the rest of her days.
But really, the only reason she's in debt 10s of thousands is she desired to go to an expensive school with football, excitement etc. No slight to your daughter, but mine is in a nursing program at the cost of 1K a semester. Sure she received some benefit of scholarship and it's not Penn State, but it's the same degree & field.

My son soon graduates with a Journalism degree, cost is barely a factor. Again not a big fancy school, but thanks to COVID it doesn't matter anyway.
Thanks. I couldn't agree more.
 

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We should never make things better for the collective good of our nation because it's not fair to the people that came before.
Making college "free" in the future is different than forgiving existing debt. If you took out the loan, you should have to pay it back. It is that simple.
 

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It's called predatory lending when private businesses do it.
 

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I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
These social Darwinist blue-collar morons will ensure China's dominance in the years to come.
View attachment 424638

I'm sorry you took so many college loans out so you could afford to drink beer and eat sushi while earning a worthless degree that has no real life applications now pay for your mistake.

I know us blue collars are just DEPLORABLE...

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
I have a scholarship because I am worth more than you could ever hope to be. I won't pay a dime for my education and if your children are lucky they might work for me someday.
Just don't major in Gender Studies. Major in Biz Admin and the subject you love.

You can do a lot with a Biz Admin major and whatever else. Got a scholarship....Well use your brain. Major in biz admin along with your passion.

My advice son is worth 80k, but I'll forgive it.
 

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Been telling all you students for 20 yrs that majoring in Urban Studies and Man To Man Butt Sex ain't worth much.
Gets you a job "working" for govt. under social programs. They desire the govt. take care of them before and after, it's easy to see.
 

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Give College students the same legal tools that Trump has

Let them declare bankruptcy
They are free to do so if they wish and qualify. You see, what they really want is for their college debt to be paid off but to retain their Starbucks habits, credit rating and apartment/home. Declaring bankruptcy would be a step back in those areas.
 

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