Thoughts on college debt forgiveness.

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I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
These social Darwinist blue-collar morons will ensure China's dominance in the years to come.
Blue collar morons? Why do I have to keep telling you idiots this. As income increases so does the likelihood of someone voting Republican. The Democratic Party is the party of the super wealthy(billionaires), the super poor(welfare), the indoctrinated educational elite, most of which are still living the college life by teaching at universities, and of course those with an identity crisis they need stroking every so often so as not to feel inferior.

I am white collar. I voted for Trump as did my white collar friends and neighbors, many of which have well over double the national average income.
A lot of conservatives live in trailers with confederate flags flying out front and get paid to fix my toilet or AC. If you're not one of those imbeciles then good on you.
I dropped out of high school and ended up making flight hardware for the NASA Shuttle program as well as the F-22 Fighter prototype.
On top of that I managed to retire at 46.
Take your sanctimonious bullshit elsewhere.
And yes I'm a Conservative and no I dont fly the Confederate battle flag in my front yard.
My top 5 rated Master planned community in the US would frown on that.
 

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A lot of older folks have no footprint on Twitter and Facebook. They may even still read broadsheet newspapers that are dying on the vine due to the increasingly prohibitive expense of production costs coupled with dwindling subscriptions. Old habits die hard and this may be the only thing keeping actual print publications afloat in a world where younger generations have attention spans measured in nanoseconds.

This is not to say that seniors today are being left behind and jettisoned by the grinding approach of electronic and synchronous orbiting technology. There is a harsh reality afoot in this world today and that is that the average high school graduate of 60 years ago probably has higher intelligence and better reading and writing skills than many people today running around with graduate degrees.

Here is wisdom: There is only one thing in this world worse than no education and that is bad education. The kids today are no different than we were, but they are victimized by these tin horn liberal arts colleges that instead of preparing them for useful citizenship, indebts them with worthless skills. Education is not what it once was. It abuses its victims with a bill of goods, imbues them with a cultish self-hatred and sends them out into the world to destroy the foundations of civilized society.

Ask yourself if you were young and realized you would never attain the lifestyle of your parents and grandparents due to globalization enriching political leadership by swindling you of a dignified living. Ask yourself if you would be out there burning down someone’s business or tearing down statues at the bidding of educators deflecting responsibility away from themselves as charlatans while colleges get richer.

It is unfortunate that millions of people in America have been taken in by the scam of a college education and a subterfuge is at hand in the form of debt forgiveness on the backs of taxpayers. Ask yourself if you think the government is going to step forward and pay for your mortgage, car lease or gambling debts. You know the answer to that.

We will always need higher education for doctors, engineers, and specialists we depend on. Lawyers, not so much. We need to close most of America’s colleges and hand them the bill for ripping off the kids. We could start right here in the home city.

Excellent post, Ray. In this regard I consider myself fortunate while terrified for my younger relatives. Myself I used a combination of the Army College Fund and G.I. Bill to attend a decent school off post in the mid-90's, where I majored in civil engineering. That university was at the time a highly conservative central Texas school where mere mention of Hegelian Dialectic would have cost the utterer his or her tongue. I never used that degree in its intended professional capacity, although it both aided me with rapid promotion through the Army ranks and opened a number of career doors for me along the way.

Years later I went back to school—also on Uncle Sam's dime—and took an undergraduate degree in clinical psychology, at a much more liberal school. Recently I completed a graduate degree in political psychology at an extremely liberal university in Baltimore; I not only felt like a dinosaur but was often referred to as one by the cool kids who attended classes with me. Happily I am free of college debt but only due to the fact that I spent most of my adult life to date in the US Army.

Which brings me to my eighteen year-old niece who began a nursing program at Penn State a few months back. While I had encouraged her to go Coast Guard at least as means to pay for her education, she wouldn't hear of it, and so now she is already strapped with tens of thousands in student loan debt—some of which my wife and I will be paying off for her, although she doesn't really deserve it. But, we love her—so what else can we do?

The level of psycho-circus madness my niece is dealing with on a daily basis at university must be staggering. Fellow students quarantined in their dorm rooms, remote electronic classes even though she lives on campus. Critical Race Theory, postmodernism primers, racial segregation (she's half Egyptian), historical revisionism—I can't imagine dealing with what she faces. The true plot of her horror story is the debt to knowledge ration she will carry on her shoulders for the rest of her days.
But really, the only reason she's in debt 10s of thousands is she desired to go to an expensive school with football, excitement etc. No slight to your daughter mind you, she's trying to do the right things. My daughter is in a nursing program at the cost of 1K a semester. Sure she received some benefit of scholarship and it's not Penn State, but it's the same degree & field.

My son soon graduates with a Journalism degree, cost is barely a factor. Again not a big fancy school, but thanks to COVID it doesn't matter anyway.

Thanks for your service, you guys EARN an education on the public's dime.
Journalism? You want him to lie for a living? There is more money in politics.
His choice. Lying would be a real problem for him. It's straight or he's a teacher.
 

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I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
These social Darwinist blue-collar morons will ensure China's dominance in the years to come.
Blue collar morons? Why do I have to keep telling you idiots this. As income increases so does the likelihood of someone voting Republican. The Democratic Party is the party of the super wealthy(billionaires), the super poor(welfare), the indoctrinated educational elite, most of which are still living the college life by teaching at universities, and of course those with an identity crisis they need stroking every so often so as not to feel inferior.

I am white collar. I voted for Trump as did my white collar friends and neighbors, many of which have well over double the national average income.
A lot of conservatives live in trailers with confederate flags flying out front and get paid to fix my toilet or AC. If you're not one of those imbeciles then good on you.
Yeah, "a lot", but not nearly as many as vote for Democrats. The desperately poor seeking more "free" stuff is a huge part of the Democratic constituency. Some living in trailers and flying flags may very well be Republicans, but at least they aren't voting to steal things from others to get more "free" stuff. They are ok with working for what little they may have.
 

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I owe no one anything (a very small amount on my credit card every month). I'm retired. I support anything that helps those at the lower end of the spectrum to help offset the massive help the top gets.
These social Darwinist blue-collar morons will ensure China's dominance in the years to come.
Blue collar morons? Why do I have to keep telling you idiots this. As income increases so does the likelihood of someone voting Republican. The Democratic Party is the party of the super wealthy(billionaires), the super poor(welfare), the indoctrinated educational elite, most of which are still living the college life by teaching at universities, and of course those with an identity crisis they need stroking every so often so as not to feel inferior.

I am white collar. I voted for Trump as did my white collar friends and neighbors, many of which have well over double the national average income.
A lot of conservatives live in trailers with confederate flags flying out front and get paid to fix my toilet or AC. If you're not one of those imbeciles then good on you.
I dropped out of high school and ended up making flight hardware for the NASA Shuttle program as well as the F-22 Fighter prototype.
On top of that I managed to retire at 46.
Take your sanctimonious bullshit elsewhere.
And yes I'm a Conservative and no I dont fly the Confederate battle flag in my front yard.
My top 5 rated Master planned community in the US would frown on that.
That's awesome

My last successful formal year of education was the fourth grade, it was mostly Fs from there. Perhaps a forced removal twice, but WTH, I just liked the girls and play ball anyway. Took some college courses, and what do you know, I paid for them and a 3.78 average, weird. Retired before my 55th birthday and fully debt free before my 59th, nice place too BTW, no top five "community", I can paint my house black if I want to, fuck some of my neighbors from California :abgg2q.jpg: While guys were in college and/or having a good time, I ran a department testing the stuff in your computers, and bought my first home when rates ran 13%. Cry me a river, I was earning $6.50 an hour plus 10-15 hours OT, my electric bill was $60, same as it is now.

Education isn't for everyone. Push comes to shove I'll take most blue collar guys, they offer somethings tangible. Turns out PROGS are robbing that from us too, after all, "the Mexicans are the only ones who will do the work". Sure I spent much time in white collar, but at the core I'm blue collar. White was just a ticket, blue is what I do.
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
It would tank the econmy.
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Ah poor babies, they made poor decisions and now want to pass the burden off to the middleclass to "level the playing field".

I don't care if it's 10 trillion, pay it back like you signed up for. PROGS desire to eliminate personal decisions and responsibility and flash victim cards instead. PROGS are communists.
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
You really are clueless.
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
Ah....maybe the gov shouldnt have gotten into the college loan business.
They guarantee those loans,not the bank.
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
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You mean those poor, poor banks that needed to be bailed out ten or twelve years ago?

Why should we bail them out again if those poor, poor, students that they borrowed money to can't pay back their debt?

Nope! Don't see that happening.

Either that money is generating income for someone already or the students and banks can go stick it in a dark place where their heads probably were when the two parties involved here made their deals.

*****SMILE*****


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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
View attachment 424762

You mean those poor, poor banks that needed to be bailed out ten or twelve years ago?

Why should we bail them out again if those poor, poor, students that they borrowed money to can't pay back their debt?

Nope! Don't see that happening.

Either that money is generating income for someone already or the students and banks can go stick it in a dark place where their heads probably were when the two parties involved here made their deals.

*****SMILE*****


:)
I guess you never knew that money was paid back with interest. Libtards are brain dead morons.
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
View attachment 424762

You mean those poor, poor banks that needed to be bailed out ten or twelve years ago?

Why should we bail them out again if those poor, poor, students that they borrowed money to can't pay back their debt?

Nope! Don't see that happening.

Either that money is generating income for someone already or the students and banks can go stick it in a dark place where their heads probably were when the two parties involved here made their deals.

*****SMILE*****


:)
I guess you never knew that money was paid back with interest. Libtards are brain dead morons.
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What makes you think I don't know borrowed money is paid back with interest?

There's three parties that stand to make out here...

1. The student who got to party on that money learning nothing useful.
2. The instructor who got a paycheck for teaching a worthless social justice course.
3. The bank who got paid back with interest so they can start the system all over again and have this happen again ten or twelve years from now.

I don't see myself on that list so I'll just say no and continue renting out trailer homes to those poor, poor, indebted social justice warriors who flip burgers with their four year SJW degree.

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
View attachment 424762

You mean those poor, poor banks that needed to be bailed out ten or twelve years ago?

Why should we bail them out again if those poor, poor, students that they borrowed money to can't pay back their debt?

Nope! Don't see that happening.

Either that money is generating income for someone already or the students and banks can go stick it in a dark place where their heads probably were when the two parties involved here made their deals.

*****SMILE*****


:)
I guess you never knew that money was paid back with interest. Libtards are brain dead morons.
View attachment 424778

What makes you think I don't know borrowed money is paid back with interest?

There's three parties that stand to make out here...

1. The student who got to party on that money learning nothing useful.
2. The instructor who got a paycheck for teaching a worthless social justice course.
3. The bank who got paid back with interest so they can start the system all over again and have this happen again ten or twelve years from now.

I don't see myself on that list so I'll just say no and continue renting out trailer homes to those poor, poor, indebted social justice warriors who flip burgers with their four year SJW degree.

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
I wonder if David Coverdale would approve of you using his song.
 

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There is nearly two trillion dollars tied up in college loan repayment . That is hamstringing an entire generation. No homes, no new businesses.
Imagine what the economy would do if that were freed up
Thats total speculation.
No it's not. That money is doing nothing but generating bank profits right now. Free it up and it goes into the marketplace.

That means jobs across the board. It means higher tax revenues (and lower deficit)
View attachment 424762

You mean those poor, poor banks that needed to be bailed out ten or twelve years ago?

Why should we bail them out again if those poor, poor, students that they borrowed money to can't pay back their debt?

Nope! Don't see that happening.

Either that money is generating income for someone already or the students and banks can go stick it in a dark place where their heads probably were when the two parties involved here made their deals.

*****SMILE*****


:)
I guess you never knew that money was paid back with interest. Libtards are brain dead morons.
View attachment 424778

What makes you think I don't know borrowed money is paid back with interest?

There's three parties that stand to make out here...

1. The student who got to party on that money learning nothing useful.
2. The instructor who got a paycheck for teaching a worthless social justice course.
3. The bank who got paid back with interest so they can start the system all over again and have this happen again ten or twelve years from now.

I don't see myself on that list so I'll just say no and continue renting out trailer homes to those poor, poor, indebted social justice warriors who flip burgers with their four year SJW degree.

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
I wonder if David Coverdale would approve of you using his song.
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Do you have something meaningful to add to the discussion or are you just a music critic?

*****CHUCKLE*****


:)
 

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You take out a loan you pay it back. These “everybody gets a trophy” children are becoming a huge pain in the butt and need to grow up. You do realize that that these children were 7,8,9 or so in 2008. Your community organizer really screwed up a whole generation for which we are now paying the price. Come to find out he is still pulling the strings of his puppets.
 

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