This Will Be A National Holiday...

PoliticalChic

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...if and when the Democrats/Liberals/totalitarians take full control of the nation.

It will be law that all flags will be flown at half mast.

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Charles Darwin
BRITISH NATURALIST
BORNFebruary 12, 1809
Shrewsbury, England
DIEDApril 19, 1882 (aged 73)
Downe, England
(Died on this day)


Proof that Darwin will be so celebrated????

Will, with no scientific experimentation that proves his thesis, after a century and a half, and more scientists working today that all of history before.....it is taught in every government school and university as law.

Why wouldn't the man himself be elevated to that level....after all he is the patriarch of Marxism.



One of the first readers of 'On the Origin of Species' was Friedrich Engels, then living in Manchester. He wrote to Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished, and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect."
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, "Marx-Engels Collected Works" , vol. 40, p. 441.

a. Teleology is the idea that nature, or history, actually has a purpose, a design. Most theology presupposes a teleology
 
One day I'll get around to reading The Voyage of the Beagle...it's on my list.


You already know the outcome of that voyage, Darwin's theory.

But...after you do, you might try this one:

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"In Darwin's Doubt, Stephen C. Meyer tells the story of the mystery surrounding this explosion of animal life - a mystery that has intensified not only because the expected ancestors of these animals have not been found but because scientists have learned more about what it takes to construct an animal. During the last half century, biologists have come to appreciate the central importance of biological information - stored in DNA and elsewhere in cells - to building animal forms. "


If you do, I'd be interested in your evaluation of the two theses.
 
One of the first readers of 'On the Origin of Species' was Friedrich Engels, then living in Manchester. He wrote to Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished, and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect."
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, "Marx-Engels Collected Works" , vol. 40, p. 441.

Of course, another fan of the early Marx was none other than Abraham Lincoln.

Many of the early writings of him were radical, but not as radical as they became later on. He actually started as what many would think of today as "wishy-washy Socialists", then later and later turned more towards "burn them all and start over".

I actually have little problem myself with his early more economic based tracts. It was only when he started becoming radically political that I started to regard his writings more as rantings than actual discourse.
 
One of the first readers of 'On the Origin of Species' was Friedrich Engels, then living in Manchester. He wrote to Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished, and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect."
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, "Marx-Engels Collected Works" , vol. 40, p. 441.

Of course, another fan of the early Marx was none other than Abraham Lincoln.

Many of the early writings of him were radical, but not as radical as they became later on. He actually started as what many would think of today as "wishy-washy Socialists", then later and later turned more towards "burn them all and start over".

I actually have little problem myself with his early more economic based tracts. It was only when he started becoming radically political that I started to regard his writings more as rantings than actual discourse.


Are you referring to Darwin, the subject of the post, or Lincoln, or Marx?
 
Are you referring to Darwin, the subject of the post, or Lincoln, or Marx?

Lincoln and Marx.

The two had quite a correspondence, and Lincoln was known to quote Marx. One report I wrote many years ago featured a great many quotes that sound like they came from Marx, but were in fact quotes of Lincoln.

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

But this is also where the differences creep in. Lincoln was very much "free market", but with regulations. Capital and Labor to him were symbiotic, where as to Marx it was a parasitic relationship. And Marx was also at that time of a similar stance. It was later that Marx started to turn into the "burn it all down and start over" kind of firebrand.

But if Darwin is to be condemned for letters to or about Marx (or the reverse), then we had better go after President Lincoln as well.
 
Are you referring to Darwin, the subject of the post, or Lincoln, or Marx?

Lincoln and Marx.

The two had quite a correspondence, and Lincoln was known to quote Marx. One report I wrote many years ago featured a great many quotes that sound like they came from Marx, but were in fact quotes of Lincoln.

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

But this is also where the differences creep in. Lincoln was very much "free market", but with regulations. Capital and Labor to him were symbiotic, where as to Marx it was a parasitic relationship. And Marx was also at that time of a similar stance. It was later that Marx started to turn into the "burn it all down and start over" kind of firebrand.

But if Darwin is to be condemned for letters to or about Marx (or the reverse), then we had better go after President Lincoln as well.

"But this is also where the differences creep in.'


Perhaps you missed the 20th century.

There are some 100 million still missing.
 
Perhaps you missed the 20th century.

There are some 100 million still missing.

Oh, my bad. This is a political diatribe. I thought it was a historical discussion.

*bows out*


Your greater mistake is not recognizing that there is no degree of separation.

Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramsci’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."
 

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