This One is Not Going to Work

[Unkotare]

What is not equal about having one official language in which government and business is done?...

If one citizen can read the ballot and another cannot, that is not equal.

 

[Unkotare]

Now you are being intellectually dishonest.

Not at all. Any variation on "You can't deny that..." reeks of democrat thinking.

 

[Unkotare]

What language are all our founding documents written in? How is business conducted? What language is taught in our school?
You are being intellectually dishonest again.

Why bother quoting my post then posting something that has nothing to do with what I posted?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Why do you keep insisting that a natural born citizen does not have to speak English? That's a completely stupid concept, not based on any reality.

Because he is a shitlord. He's as predictable as the sunrise, and as useful as a broken clock: he posts bullshit, and just keeps reposting different shit until you get tired of dealing with his bullshit. His entire LIFE is shitting on this site.

 

[Unkotare]

You need to expound on that simplistic answer because no one understands your point. That's the problem. and it's not constitutional.

Article 1, Amendments 14 and 15.

 

[Unkotare]

They can vote when they understand how to do so. ...

That smells a lot like "they can vote when they are white."

 

[Unkotare]

... If they are born here, they must learn English.

NO they do not have to, though most do of course. I thought you liked America.

 

[Unkotare]

... If not, they have no right to be a citizen. ..

THAT is not in the Constitution.

 

[Unkotare]

Why do you keep insisting that a natural born citizen does not have to speak English? ...

Because under the law since the founding of our nation, they do not.

 

[otto105]

Of course they do.

She doesn't understand how healthcare insurance works.

 

[otto105]

THAT is not in the Constitution.

The "Don't Tread on Me" crowd certainty do want to tread on everyone.

 

[Seymour Flops]

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Trying to make an "official language" for the US is not going to work. Too many practical and constitutional problems with the idea.

Disagree.

It is already effectively the official language since immigrants are required to take a test in English to become citizens.

Maybe there used to be some Cajuns, some Amish, or some other communities of people born in the USA who did not speak English. But you would have to deliberately avoid it to not know English if you are born her.

If you immigrate here, there are bilingual programs for your children, so they will learn English in short order.

 

[Unkotare]

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If you immigrate here, there are bilingual programs for your children, so they will learn English in short order.

No one learns a language "in short order."

 

[Seymour Flops]

No one learns a language "in short order."

You forget that I know the truth.

Working in a junior high school that has about 60 "newcomer" students enrolled and two teachers who specialize in teaching newcomers, I can testify to seeing amazing progress in learning English from students who arrived in the Biden wave of migrants from all over Latin-America, including Brazil. One particular new American from Brazil came with Brazilian Portugese and Spanish, but no English in the middle of 6th grade, and now in her 8th grade year is taking a bus to the high school to take Geometry as advanced math (10th grade math).

That's an extreme, but very few continue to struggle after their first year. Inevitibly, those are kids whose parent are telling them that they are Mexicans (or which ever country of origin) and can work in the family business and only send them to school for the free lunch. But even those kids learn English, how can they avoid it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Try to make pizza our "official food" and you'll get more of an argument than this!

It was a joke ....maybe?

 

[ThisIsMe]

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The only time I ever traveled internationally, besides Canada, was to Northern England, and I spent a lot of time trying to learn to speak or at least understand the commonest dialect, Mancunian. I made it okay until I went to Liverpool. LOL!

It was important to me to try to be able to communicate with my hosts.


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I get it, we are the melting pot, and that's great, and we can still melt with official American things

 

[Unkotare]

Because unk is a shitlord. He posts no content, just bullshit.
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Still waiting for you to compare threads started, chickenshit.

 

[Unkotare]

I get it, we are the melting pot, and that's great, and we can still melt with official American things

People speaking whatever language they want is an American thing.

 

[Foxfyre]

If one citizen can read the ballot and another cannot, that is not equal.

If you can jump six feet and I cannot, that is not equal either. But we both have the liberty to try to jump that six feet.

But if Chinese, Finnish, German, and/or Arabic speakers cannot read the ballot and the English and Spanish speakers can, that is also not equal. To accommodate every language spoken in the USA is simply not reasonable nor feasible.

But all have liberty to learn and use the English language.

If all are instructed that English is the law of the land and government business will be conducted in English, all have the same equal right to learn English just has they would need to learn French to live in France, etc.

If I were to apply for and receive French citizenship--I speak maybe 20 words of French--I can imagine the look I would get there if I demanded a ballot in English. Wouldn't happen. Shouldn't happen.

 

[Unkotare]

Why vote.gov supports multiple languages

The U.S. is a multilingual country. See how vote.gov makes the voting process accessible through accurate voting information and instructions in many languages.

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