This One is Not Going to Work

[Unkotare]

The Constitution says nothing about multi lingual ballots

Check out the Civil War amendments and voting rights.

 

[Foxfyre]

MSN

Trying to make an "official language" for the US is not going to work. Too many practical and constitutional problems with the idea.

There is nothing in the Constitution to forbid it.

There is nothing the the Constitution that authorizes or forbids road signs, warning signs, written or broadcast instructions, etc. and there is nothing in the Constitution that forbids requiring new immigrants, long term VISA and green card holders to be able to read and understand road signs, warning signs, written or announced/broadcasted instructions in English, This is a simple matter of public order and safety.

Nobody is saying anybody cannot speak whatever language they want to in their homes, on the street, in the workplace or wherever language does not matter. Nobody is saying any private business cannot accommodate whatever languages it wants. But all official government documents will be in English savings us many billions not having to translate those into a half dozen other languages that are unfair to all who don't speak those half dozen other languages.

And there is no reason new immigrants should not have to see to it that their children are sufficiently proficient in English to hold their own in public schools before they attend public schools.

 

[Unkotare]

There is nothing in the Constitution to forbid it.
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Article 1
15th Amendment
14th Amendment

 

[Unkotare]

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And there is no reason new immigrants should not have to see to it that their children are sufficiently proficient in English to hold their own in public schools before they attend public schools.

So, nobody of any background could attend preschool.

 

[Rogue AI]

14th Amendment for one. Day to day functioning of the government in general.

The government cannot stop the people or businesses from speaking in tongues, they can however conduct the people's business only in English. If one does not understand English they can provide for a translator, that is not the people's responsibility.

 

[Unkotare]

The government cannot stop the people or businesses from speaking in tongues, they can however conduct the people's business only in English. ...

Equal protection under the law.

 

[Unkotare]

The government cannot stop the people or businesses from speaking in tongues, they can however conduct the people's business only in English. If one does not understand English they can provide for a translator, that is not the people's responsibility.

Read the Miranda rights.

 

[multivita-man]

Check out the Civil War amendments and voting rights.

I don't think the equal protection clause precludes the US from having an official language.

 

[Mac-7]

Check out the Civil War amendments and voting rights.

Nothing there about multi lingual ballots

 

[Unkotare]

I don't think the equal protection clause precludes the US from having an official language.

If there were to be any application. As a merely symbolic measure, who cares?

 

[Unkotare]

If there were to be any application. As a merely symbolic measure, who cares?

 

[Unkotare]

Nothing there about multi lingual ballots

Dull-witted ^^^

 

[Foxfyre]

So, nobody of any background could attend preschool.

Depends on what you mean by background. Neither I nor my sister attended preschool nor did her or my husband or any of our kids or grandkids. But all are quite well educated, several with master's degrees, two PhDs. Not a single one of us was handicapped in any way by not having preschool.

And millions of children are now homeschooled instead of attending public school beginning at the preschool level. And I can speak from experience that homeschooled kids are for at least the vast majority getting an excellent education.

Again the public schools school school not be saddled with educating a few students all speaking different languages. Those immigrating to the USA should expect to learn English themselves and should expect to homeschool their kids or arrange for their education until they can speak sufficient English to hold their own in the public schools.

 

[Foxfyre]

Equal protection under the law.

So long as the law is applied equitably to all without regard for color of skin, ethnicity, creed, religion, country of origin, gender, etc. etc. etc., all have equal protection under the law. Equal protection under the law is corrupted when a small percentage of the people expect to be accommodated in ways that nobody else is.

 

[Unkotare]

Depends on what you mean by background. Neither I nor my sister attended preschool nor did her or my husband or any of our kids or grandkids. But all are quite well educated, several with master's degrees, two PhDs. Not a single one of us was handicapped in any way by not having preschool.

And millions of children are now homeschooled instead of attending public school beginning at the preschool level. And I can speak from experience that homeschooled kids are for at least the vast majority getting an excellent education.

Again the public schools school school not be saddled with educating a few students all speaking different languages. Those immigrating to the USA should expect to learn English themselves and should expect to homeschool their kids or arrange for their education until they can speak sufficient English to hold their own in the public schools.

Should they stay home until they have mastered Chemistry, History, Algebra? Or maybe do you think students attend school in order to learn such things?

 

[Unkotare]

So long as the law is applied equitably to all without regard for color of skin, ethnicity, creed, religion, country of origin, gender, etc. etc. etc., all have equal protection under the law. Equal protection under the law is corrupted when a small percentage of the people expect to be accommodated in ways that nobody else is.

Such as?

 

[Unkotare]

Depends on what you mean by background. Neither I nor my sister attended preschool nor did her or my husband or any of our kids or grandkids. But all are quite well educated, several with master's degrees, two PhDs. Not a single one of us was handicapped in any way by not having preschool.

And millions of children are now homeschooled instead of attending public school beginning at the preschool level. And I can speak from experience that homeschooled kids are for at least the vast majority getting an excellent education.

Again the public schools school school not be saddled with educating a few students all speaking different languages. Those immigrating to the USA should expect to learn English themselves and should expect to homeschool their kids or arrange for their education until they can speak sufficient English to hold their own in the public schools.

And they can start high school when they're 25. Great plan. Students go to school TO learn things, not after they have learned those things.

 

[Foxfyre]

Should they stay home until they have mastered Chemistry, History, Algebra? Or maybe do you think students attend school in order to learn such things?

Nope. All those subjects should be competently taught in English in every public school.

We got tutors for the Cuban family I and others in our church helped assimilate as new immigrants when immigrants were expected to learn English. The two children were elementary age when they arrived, nobody in the family spoke a word of English, and they were homeschooled with help from the tutor for most of the first year. But by the second year they were quite ready to go to the public school that taught in only English and they did very well. Both went on to get advanced college degrees and have had very successful professional careers. As did the parents who studied English alongside their kids. (It was a lot harder for Mom and Dad than it was for the kids actually.)

 

[Unkotare]

Nope. All those subjects should be competently taught in English in every public school.
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They should be mastered at home before burdening the schools.

 

[Unkotare]

...nobody in the family spoke a word of English...

Not true.