This judge hasn't been paying attention.

[Winston]

When they are illegal aliens their rights are very limited

Particularly when they are violent criminals

I wish trump haters cared as much about the physical safety of American citizens as they do about saving violent criminals

The very foundation of our legal system is, better a guilty man go free than an innocent man be sent to prison. That is why all the safeguards are in place.

 

[struth]

HC?

Yes, habeas corpus...earlier in this thread you incorrectly and idiotically made this claim:

habeas corpus, a right to hear charges against you, right to defend against charges, right to an attorney

HC is not a right, nor is it any of those things

 

[rightwinger]

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You believe that.




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yup

 

[struth]

Answer the question. These "criminals", they are already incarcerated here. What do we achieve by sending them off to some foreign prison? And maybe, more importantly, what are those foreign countries getting in return?

Frees up space for American criminals, why should we house them just to deport them?

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, habeas corpus...earlier in this thread you incorrectly and idiotically made this claim:


HC is not a right, nor is it any of those things

You bet your ass it is a right of the accused

Did you learn your rights from Kristie Noem?

 

[struth]

You bet your ass it is a right of the accused

Did you learn your rights from Kristie Noem?

No it is not a right. Read the Constitution. You are so clueless.

 

[rightwinger]

When they are illegal aliens their rights are very limited

Particularly when they are violent criminals

I wish trump haters cared as much about the physical safety of American citizens as they do about saving violent criminals

Actually they are provided the protections of our laws while in our country

 

[Rawley]

What, you need a response. Fine, first question, are these people walking the streets? Murder convictions, child rapist, are they walking the fucking streets? If they are, well I say we got some bigger problems. But they probably aren't.

OK. You could have said "I have no idea, Rawley. My masters told me to spew these Trump hating talking points, and I complied."

 

[Winston]

Deflection. You don't want them gone.

No, it is not a deflection. I got no problem with getting them gone, I just want due process. No one has yet to answer the real question. If these criminals are already incarcerated here, what do we gain by sending millions of dollars to countries like El Salvador, and Sudan, fucking Sudan, to house our problems?

 

[Mac-7]

Answer the question. These "criminals", they are already incarcerated here. What do we achieve by sending them off to some foreign prison? And maybe, more importantly, what are those foreign countries getting in return?

One benefit is that it puts them out of reach of a future open borders democrat joe biden clone might pardon them and put them on a path to citizenship

Sooner or later they will not be in US custody

 

[Mac-7]

No, it is not a deflection. I got no problem with getting them gone, I just want due process. No one has yet to answer the real question. If these criminals are already incarcerated here, what do we gain by sending millions of dollars to countries like El Salvador, and Sudan, fucking Sudan, to house our problems?

See post #150

 

[Winston]

Frees up space for American criminals, why should we house them just to deport them?

Frees up space. How about build more prisons, although we do have more prisoners as a percentage of our population than in developed nation.

 

[struth]

Frees up space. How about build more prisons, although we do have more prisoners as a percentage of our population than in developed nation.

That cost more money, how about just deporting the ones that were never suppose to be here to begin with, much easier.

Why do you want to keep illegals locked up in our prisons so bad?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Answer the question. These "criminals", they are already incarcerated here. What do we achieve by sending them off to some foreign prison? And maybe, more importantly, what are those foreign countries getting in return?

EXACTLY.
That argument.
All the way TO THE MIDTERMS.
You got it, Mr. Smith.

 

[Mac-7]

Actually they are provided the protections of our laws while in our country

They are subject to deportation

Trump has that authority

But an unelected partisan democrat judge wants to arbitrarily decide where they can be deported to

Thats wrong

 

[Winston]

One benefit is that it puts them out of reach of a future open borders democrat joe biden clone might pardon them and put them on a path to citizenship

Sooner or late

You really want to go there? Pardons? As if some new president is going to start wholesale pardoning violent criminals. Meanwhile, buy bunch of Trump's new crypto, enriching him, you get a full pardon and all investigations stopped. And here is the kicker. It was not an official act, Trumps dinky ass press secretary opened the door.
Prosecute his ass, send him to a South African prison.

 

[Mac-7]

That cost more money, how about just deporting the ones that were never suppose to be here to begin with, much easier.

Why do you want to keep illegals locked up in our prisons so bad?

How about build more prisons,

This from a lib who used to argue for fewer prisons

But any anti trump port in a storm will do

 

[Frankenstein]

Judge pleads with Trump administration for “reason over rhetoric” in deportation case​

A federal judge said the Trump administration is falsely blaming him for a crisis of its own making: the rushed deportation of seven men to South Sudan in violation of court orders and constitutional due process.

U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy said Monday the hurried deportations were an overt violation of orders he put in place weeks ago, which required the administration to provide “meaningful” notice before deporting people to countries where they could face torture or death. Even after the violation, Murphy said he exercised restraint by not forcing the administration to bring the seven convicted violent criminals back to the United States.

“It continues to be the court’s hope that reason can get the better of rhetoric,” Murphy wrote in his withering Monday night order rejecting the Trump administration’s demand that he reconsider or delay the effect of his ruling. “The orders put in place here are sensible and conservative.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/27/judge-trump-south-sudan-deportation-case-00369946

Asking the regime for reason is like asking trump to admit he really did molest the 26 women who have accused him of various kinds of sexual assault. It ain't going to happen.

Biden appointee! NEXT

 

[struth]

How about build more prisons,

This from a lib who used to argue for fewer prisons

But any anti trump port in a storm will do

The oppressive left just wants to build more prisons, that's the solution to all their problems. It's tragic

 

[Mac-7]

As if some new president is going to start wholesale pardoning violent criminals.

The next democrat president will be the most leftwing radical in our nations history

It will be the Obama/biden junta on steriods

Yes its entirely possible

Where todays democrats are concerned always assume the worst